Rush: I hope Obama fails.

[implacable44]

implacable just hates America like all the board Republicans now do.

dung you hate america -- I was watching big love last night and I couldn;t help but see how you and Albie are the same.

[ChumpDumper]

dung you hate america -- I was watching big love last night and I couldn;t help but see how you and Albie are the same.

I'm not the one hoping for America to fail, you are. You hate America. I took a this morning and i couldn't help but notice that you and a big turd are the same.

[implacable44]

I don't want America to fail. I dont want to be a socialist nation on my way to communism - nor do I want to be a citizen of the world.

[ChumpDumper]

I don't want America to fail. I dont want to be a socialist nation on my way to communism - nor do I want to be a citizen of the world.

Too bad you are already a citizen of the world -- and America will never be a communist nation. You just like feeling artificially afraid and oppressed. Lots of white folk do.

[implacable44]

no I don't . Wilson tried it - FDR tried it -- Obama will try it.

[ChumpDumper]

no I don't . Wilson tried it - FDR tried it -- Obama will try it.

No they didn't.

Those guys saved capitalism so idiots like you could spend their time and money scaring themselves and whining about nonexistent oppression.

[FromWayDowntown]

no - -your question references his policies. - my response was I was not willing to sacrifice rights, property etc.. national soveriegnty or what we have left of it for the economy.

No, my question is one of results. If Obama is successful, you'll be unhappy because (presumably) the policies used to achieve success will be at odds with your philosophical bent.

My sole point in discussing this with you has been to test your logic; I think it's interesting that you'd place victory in the battle of ideas ahead of the national welfare. When people did that during the Bush administration, they were deemed unpatriotic by those who most vigorously supported the President. So I wondered aloud whether the same nonsensical name-calling would apply to someone who was generally sympathetic to the right was willing to go on record with that sort of hope.

I've tried to figure out whether that's what you actually hope for -- a failing national welfare to win the battle of ideas -- and you've proven that to be your agenda. Beyond that, I've simply quarreled with your reasoning. If Bush isn't to blame for where we are, I don't see how you can forecast that anything that happens in the next 4 years can be categorized as a success or failure by Obama, given that what has come before has put him in this situation.

Of course, I happen to think that most of the Bush Presidency, save the absence of further domestic terrorist attacks, can be deemed a failure and I frankly think that Obama will succeed if he can undo even a small portion of the failure that the Bush administration has wrought. And if he succeeds in that, I think it will be good for America -- but I'd think that true no matter who the President is.

The bottom line matters; we're all better off if Obama succeeds, just as we all would have been better off if Bush had succeeded.

[Cry Havoc]

no - -your question references his policies. - my response was I was not willing to sacrifice rights, property etc.. national soveriegnty or what we have left of it for the economy.

No, my question is one of results. If Obama is successful, you'll be unhappy because (presumably) the policies used to achieve success will be at odds with your philosophical bent.

My sole point in discussing this with you has been to test your logic; I think it's interesting that you'd place victory in the battle of ideas ahead of the national welfare. When people did that during the Bush administration, they were deemed unpatriotic by those who most vigorously supported the President. So I wondered aloud whether the same nonsensical name-calling would apply to someone who was generally sympathetic to the right was willing to go on record with that sort of hope.

I've tried to figure out whether that's what you actually hope for -- a failing national welfare to win the battle of ideas -- and you've proven that to be your agenda. Beyond that, I've simply quarreled with your reasoning. If Bush isn't to blame for where we are, I don't see how you can forecast that anything that happens in the next 4 years can be categorized as a success or failure by Obama, given that what has come before has put him in this situation.

Of course, I happen to think that most of the Bush Presidency, save the absence of further domestic terrorist attacks, can be deemed a success and I frankly think that Obama will succeed if he can undo even a small portion of the failure that the Bush administration has wrought. And if he succeeds in that, I think it will be good for America -- but I'd think that true no matter who the President is.

The bottom line matters; we're all better off if Obama succeeds, just as we all would have been better off if Bush had succeeded.

Extremely well-put.

[Darrin]

We have common ground to judge in history. If we continue to believe that all we have is our own belief system to view the world then how small do you think the average American mind has become?

[Wild Cobra]

I do feel a little sorry for WC getting caught in the crossfire.

What crossfire? All I see is flying that is far off target. No worries.

[Wild Cobra]

So, WC, you are for states rights when California decides to pass laws compelling auto manufacturers to lower emissions?

I have no problems if it doesn't affect the cost of cars to other states.

Or legalizing marijuana?

Fine with me. I smoke it myself from time to time.

Or against nuclear waste storage?

No problems. However, they would be hard pressed to do so if they used nuclear power.

How about physician assisted suicide?

We have that in Oregon. I'm fine with it.

Or issuing id cards to illegal immigrants?

Problems there since the cons ution specifically grants congress immigration powers.

[DrHouse]

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Rush would have accomplished the same thing had he said just that. It's what 99% of his audience is thinking anyways.

[doobs]

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Rush would have accomplished the same thing had he said just that. It's what 99% of his audience is thinking anyways.

Wow.

First of all, what makes you think it's acceptable to write that word? I don't care what race you are, that word is vile and shouldn't be spoken or written.

Second of all, what makes you so sure 99% of Rush's audience is racist? That just shows how bigoted and stupid you really are. After all, you're the one throwing around the n-word.

[Wild Cobra]

Wow.

First of all, what makes you think it's acceptable to write that word? I don't care what race you are, that word is vile and shouldn't be spoken or written.

Second of all, what makes you so sure 99% of Rush's audience is racist? That just shows how bigoted and stupid you really are. After all, you're the one throwing around the n-word.

I just about made a similar remark, but sometimes, utter stupidity should just be ignored.

[Shastafarian]

I just about made a similar remark, but sometimes, utter stupidity should just be ignored.

[ClingingMars]

I hope he succeeds beyond anyone's wildest dreams. He's MY president, regardless of his political persuasion.

Besides, my 401k is in the ter.

+1

the problem is, i don't believe his policies WILL succeed. hoping something succeeds and it actually WORKING are two very different things.

-Mars

[ClingingMars]

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Rush would have accomplished the same thing had he said just that. It's what 99% of his audience is thinking anyways.

what a shocker. a liberal throwing out the n word. predictable. and an idiot Laker fan to boot.

-Mars

[RandomGuy]

What crossfire? All I see is flying that is far off target. No worries.

It was a pun. A riff off the meme where you didn't recognize the assassin of Dr. MLK on MLK day.

You suck, and that's sad.

[Wild Cobra]

It was a pun. A riff off the meme where you didn't recognize the assassin of Dr. MLK on MLK day.

You suck, and that's sad.

Just because I didn't remember a name.

Wow...

What expectations.

[Winehole23]

Just because I didn't remember a name.

Wow...

What expectations.

American history. You should get friendly with it sometime, WC. Do you read history?

[Winehole23]

, newspapers?

[Winehole23]

Ever watch the History Channel, WC?

[Wild Cobra]

American history. You should get friendly with it sometime, WC. Do you read history?

, newspapers?

Ever watch the History Channel, WC?

Why are you being an ass over this?

My God man... You act as if I should be perfect. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Get over it.

[doobs]

Why are you being an ass over this?

My God man... You act as if I should be perfect. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Get over it.

I think they're riding you so hard because of the confederate battle flag. James Earl Ray killed a man who fought against the oppression of blacks, which is what that flag represents to many.

Not to beat a dead horse, but I understand that there are people who can love the flag without being racist. Some people just love their Southern heritage. And some people just love the spirit of rebellion. The confederate battle flag is not the swastika.

But you have to expect some people giving you a hard time. Especially when you start displaying the flag around the time when our first black president is inaugurated.

[Winehole23]

I think they're riding you so hard because of the confederate battle flag. James Earl Ray killed a man who fought against the oppression of blacks, which is what that flag represents to many.

I ride WC hard because he talks out of his ass, pompously ridicules others for what he only imagines they say, and obstinately refuses all correction.

I started to ride WC long before he adopted the confederate battle standard as an avatar, and I will continue to long after he puts it away. WC is a bully, profane, ignorant and rude to people. My feeling about southern men and their quaint attachment to symbols of lost causes has nothing to do with it.

Not to beat a dead horse, but I understand that there are people who can love the flag without being racist. Some people just love their Southern heritage. And some people just love the spirit of rebellion. The confederate battle flag is not the swastika.

God forbid some genteel agrarian humanist or free mind, oblivious to the insult his banner gives others, should get singed by the flames. That would be very unfortunate.

But you have to expect some people giving you a hard time. Especially when you start displaying the flag around the time when our first black president is inaugurated.

The timing is rather provocative. Do you guess WC picked his spot out of mischief or ignorance or both, doobs?