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Huh. A bolt-on. I figured it would be a solid body. I think it'd be a waste to use it for hard rock and metal. You gotta let it sing. Have you ever checked out Steve Khan? Love his tone.
Yep. the 335 actually has a solid chunk of wood running through its middle, which adds a great deal of sustain and acts as a buffer against feedback. Not like a solid body, but close enough for the harder stuff. I've heard that feedback and lack of sustain were huge problems for the 335 concerning hard rock/metal but for the most part, that hasn't been my experience.
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Huh. A bolt-on. I figured it would be a solid body. I think it'd be a waste to use it for hard rock and metal. You gotta let it sing. Have you ever checked out Steve Khan? Love his tone.
I'm assuming you still have factory pickups? How are they?
That's why I don't play my 7 string now. The pickups sound like garbage for an EMG humbucker. Way too muddy for the kind of distortion I use. I've just never got around to replacing them.
no it's not a bolt on neck. By solid body I mean solid wood build. That's the majority of what you see and hear nowadays. Example would be a stratocaster or les paul.
And quite a few people have told me the same story about overdrive wasting the 335's tone. I disagree. It doesn't quite measure up to an overdriven Les Paul, but I'd take the 335 on any other effect or clean all day. Just a more versatile guitar in that regard, methinks.
The '57 classics, yeah they are marvelous in both the neck and bridge positions. How great they can be has a lot to do with what you play you know. I play mostly classic rock and it gets me all the tones I could possibly want - whether its something like the chugging distortion of KISS or something bluesy yet trebly like santana or rhythmic, almost acoustic sounding Beatles stuff. I can't see myself replacing these with anything else.
EMG is high quality. I've got more than a few friends who swear by them. Seven strings in theory seem really cool but I haven't played much on any - has as much to do with my choice of music as anything.That's why I don't play my 7 string now. The pickups sound like garbage for an EMG humbucker. Way too muddy for the kind of distortion I use. I've just never got around to replacing them.
My 2 cents…I am not a real musician but I strum the guitar…
Like Mouse said, there are some real great guitars sitting in pawn shops & used guitar stores…But keep in mind that People who sell guitars are worse than used car salesman…
Take a REAL musician with you to check out a guitar you are interested in…I have a friend who can pick up on alterations, poor bridge work, worn out frets, stress cracks in a heartbeat…
Anyone that has a higher end epiphone LP or a gibson one knows what that authentic LP sound is.
With the pickup plates off it has this heavy ballsy crunchy tone that makes anything sound amazing.
My point to the OP is, guitar quality is really big, and the thing with crappy guitars is that you might get frustrated and just quit. Learning how to play is a real hassle if you're self taught especially
not mine but looks teh same. BC Rich warlock platinum series. I think about 12 years old or so. Not really sure.
Just bought this a few months ago. ESP EC Stealth model. Never really cared for this look, the LP type style, until I saw an ESP with a badass paint job on it. Coudnt find it for the price I wanted but saw this one and figured I'd give it a go. First guitar I've ever had without a tremolo system.
Amps, I've always used Crate. For no real reason other than one was a xmas gift and the second one was free.
I would kill though to have back my Paul Reed Smith.
PRS CE 22, looked ver much like this one.
sweet thread!
my two main guitars.
1997 Fender big apple strat. Pretty sweet. Pretty utilitarian.
and my 1979 Gretsch Bst. Absolutely looove this guitar, though mine is black. I traded my japanese re-issue jaguar for this and haven't regretted it for a second.
Man, I've always wanted to get one of these. I just want to hang it on my wall. Not a custom one. One of those $199 GC knockoffs. I just love the design and the place it had with 80s hair metal. I'd maybe strum on it but nothing serious. I took one guitar lesson long ago and it just wasn't for me. Sticks for me.
I think I was like 15 or so when I got it, maybe even a bit younger. I only bought it bc I thought it looked cool.
I don't play it as much anymore though. I thought abotu selling it, but it's my first "real" guitar. Before that I had a cheap strat knockoff
Only in the last year or so have I realized that BC Rich has been around forever and is/was pretty high quality at one point
I think he wanted pics of your Guitar
I ended up getting the beginners package Epiphone Les Paul Special II a couple years back when I started this thread with the advice of many posters on here. Then 2 weeks afterward my apartment was robbed and so was my new guitar.
What luck. However, I have come back to wanting to do this all over again. I'm going to get myself another one for Christmas, and I still know nothing about guitars. But I'm determined to pick it up.
Is the Epiphone still good to start with right now, or are there any others anyone could recommend? Thanks.
This is what I got last time but never got to really play with it since it got stolen. It's much cheaper in price than it used to be too.
http://www.swee er.com/store/detail/PPEGENJRVSCH/
Mouse, I'll still love those ones you posted.
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So far no one has mentioned "tone"...
Tone is what will keep you interested in the guitar...or lack of it...will make you lose interest in playing...
A single coil guitar like a Strat or a Tele...will give you the clean chimey tone like Hendrix in Little Wing...or Wind Cries Mary... a Tele will give you a twangy sound or even an early stones sound like -early Stones tunes....
A humbucker equipped guitar like everything mentioned so far in this thread will distort quicker and give you a heavier sound--all things being equal--but as soon as you try to play clean passages---all things being equal--they tend to sound sterile....
A solid state amp..will give you a heavy sound but the tone is nowhere near a tube amp IMO...
these are things to take into consideration....if you think you might wanna be versatile and play heavy and clean guitar....
I'll expand on this this evening after work...give you some youtubes of great amps and great tones....
^ sbm made some decent points but you're best off just finding a cheap versatile guitar that plays well. As opposed to buying a specific type because you like Hendrix or Beck or whatever. But either way, take someone with you that plays so they can help you evaluate the guitar. 5 different guitars of the same model can all play differently. With the low end guitars, some may have defects as well that you might not notice.
Also, assuming it's just going to be you playing by yourself, don't overspend on the amp. Nowadays, there are plenty of cheap decent digital effects boxes that will give you a ton of different sounds and are great for a beginner to experiment and play around.
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Bend over. I'll give ya an album deal.
Those entry level epi's are grade a dog and you're probably gonna quit just because of how much it sucks. If you plan on not quitting and not getting robbed at least get a mid level epiphone. They're not all that exxpensive.
...also...
Why buy new?
I would suggest going the used route and get a higher quality used...than a lower quality new...
A few dings and scratches will only add to the mojo of a guitar and take nothing away from the tone....so instead of a new guitar center cheapie....go on ebay and find a used mexican made strat or tele...or a used gibson reissue--if you must have humbuckers...
If you must go heavy --sounding that it-- I would look at the carvins, esp's, g & l's, ...
even the schecters and ibanez cheapies arent too bad....
Personally, my best pick would be (I am more into the vintage sounds )...
in the 350 and under (sometimes way under) category...Fender Classic Vibe Tele....these sound and play better than guitars costing hundreds more....
350-600....a used Fender Classic 60's Strat....or a Tele....
a used classic players strat or tele....
a used deluxe players fender strat or tele....
500-700.... the Tele " baja " ....or the fender "road worn" series....
700-800...a used Fender USA strat or tele...
A nice Gibson Les Paul that is cheap is the 50's and 60's tribute...which have P-90 pickups...which are kind of in the middle between a single coil and a humbucker sound...they have the sweet tone of a single coil but can grind like a humbucker when pushed....these run 849 brand new...so if you can find a used one...this is a great buy....
For amps....
I would look at the Fender Vibro Champ XD...or the Fender Superchamp XD...these are hybrid amps which have actual tubes...which are far more toneful than a solid state amp....yet they also have a modeling section which gives you about a dozen channels with different tones....like echo, flanger, distortion, heavy heavy distortion, clean, marshall stack, fender tweeds , etc....
these little amps are a load of fun and only cost 199 & 299 brand new...so a used one on evilbay is the way to go.....
here is a youtube of the little Vibro Champ XD...(through a Tele)
Here is the Superchamp xd...(through a strat)
rock on...
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