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    A few more Spurs' injuries and I can sit for my medical boards.

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    To Dex, No.....

    Tendinosis is a failure of the tendons to heal properly over time. Kinda like a collection of microscopic injuries which add up. There might be inflammation initially but it's the lack of healing which keeps the tendon weak over time. Repe ive motion is a big culprit......

    Without getting too technical, the ratio of Type I Collagen to Type III Collagen decreases making the tendon more fragile in general (Alpha 1/Alpha2 mismatches can cause it too). The fiber structure becomes more disorganized as well. (you tend to see more separation).

    While vascularity is usually increased in the affected area, this is not akin to the inflammatory response most folks are familiar with and must be treated a bit differently. NSAIDS are actually counterproductive and can impede the healing process. PT, Ice, Rest and grandmas chicken soup are the best remedies.

    Here is something that I found:

    Tendonosis is different than tendonitis. Tendonosis is the actual degeneration of tendon, where tendonitis is the inflammation of tendons. Tendonosis can be treated with physical therapy and ice pack treatments.

    Tendonosis is a condition of tendons in which the tendon is degenerative. Many people confuse tendonosis with tendonitis, because both are disorders of the tendons.

    The difference between tendonitis and tendonosis is subtle, but the difference between tendonitis and tendonosis is important. While tendonitis is the inflammation of the tendon, tendonosis is the degeneration of the tendon.

    Inflammation of the tendons is fairly simple to cure. If you have tendonitis, you should take anti-inflammatory medicines such as ibuprofen or aspirin and you should ice the area around the tendons when it is especially inflamed.

    Combined with rest, an anti-inflammatory medicine and ice should bring a tendon afflicted with tendonitis back to normal within four weeks unless the tendonitis has been present for a long time. If the tendonitis has been present for a very long time, it might take up to six weeks for the tendonitis to go away. If treatment for tendonitis does not help within six weeks, your problem is probably not inflammation of the tendon, but rather, degeneration of the tendon.

    Tendons are similar to the tough strings that you have difficulty cutting through on packing tape. When a tendon that strengthens the cartilage that connects your muscles to your bones begins to degenerate, you begin to feel pain and weakness every time you use the area of the body where the tendon is degenerating.

    You can do a few things to make tendonosis better. First, do not stop using the tendon because of discomfort. Use the tendon as much as is possible without injuring it further. Second, use ice massage on the affected area. Third, utilize physical therapy to increase the productivity of the tendon and last but not least, get friction massage for the area of the affected tendon.

    While friction massage goes against the grain of the tendon and it actually hurts to have it performed, it is the most important part of healing tendonosis.

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    Initial recovery is usually within 2 to 3 months and full recovery is within 3 to 6 months. About 80% of patients will fully recover. It's treatment is largely PALLATIVE!!!!

    OK i'm gonna jump from 9th floor right now....

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    relax man, timmy looked like he was in a pretty good mood at the game.

    if it was really that serious or bothering him that much, then i doubt he would be so jovial.

    i say sit him out against cleveland.

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    Ok pick your choice ala president swarchenegger:

    1. Eccentric loading
    2. Inflatable brace
    3. Shock-wave therapy
    4. Tendon Bioengineering
    5. Vitamin E
    6. Nitric oxide

    You don't have to know, just pick!!!!

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    No way. He'd be out for the season if he had a meniscus tear.

    Yeah, that was an over-reaction from my own experience with tendinosis. I was comparing a tiny meniscus tear vs. advanced tendinosis. Mine would have been career-ending... if I had actually been good enough to have a career. No reason to think that Tim's is that bad, except that he is a big man who has been playing long basketball seasons for a lot of years.

    The problem with tendonosis is that the affected area of tendon doesn't get better with rest or therapy. Or that's what I thought. I posted earlier about a treatment that sounds like it can actually repair some (or all?) of the damaged tissue. The guy telling me about it didn't have much time to talk, but I'll try to get more details in the next couple of days.

    The basics were that they inject an irritant (dextrose?) into the affected area. That induces the body's repair response, and gives it a chance to heal the tissue with "normal" collagen. Here I'm just guessing, but it sounded like he was saying that some of the degenerative tissue could actually be replaced by healthy tendon tissue. I hope I'm not reading too much into it, but that's what it sounded like. I'm sure it would be an off-season treatment, in any case. So the rest of the season will be about managing the pain, and trying not to injure the knee any further.

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    I am going to send him a lot of wheat germ oil.

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    Duncan was moving around well at the game. He also seemed to be in good spirits. Supposedly there's a 50/50 chance he plays Friday.

    Good news

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    Yeah, looks like his Tendinosis is not the bad type....yay!

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    Found this on the AP.

    Popovich said Duncan felt better Wednesday, but added the injury was severe enough that Duncan would have still sat Tuesday even if it was the playoffs.

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    Sit him out till next week.

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    I think he should play if GSH is right, the gist of it seems to be he sould play, but just limited minutes. I think he said only resting the tendon would be bad, just don't put too much pressure on it(20 mins max?). And I know I butchered that, just look at his last 5 or so posts.

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    Let Timmy rest. He deserves it. TP can run the show.

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    Let Timmy rest. He deserves it. TP can run the show.
    Nice sig. Where did you find those, or did you make them?

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    Pop said it was tendonitis in the pre-game show
    I call it tenonotioziz when I read one or the other one

    I'm fine with that
    Last edited by polandprzem; 02-26-2009 at 10:17 AM.

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    Duncan was moving around well at the game. He also seemed to be in good spirits. Supposedly there's a 50/50 chance he plays Friday.

    Good news
    Good news

    I hope to see him playing friday

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    Duncan will be fine. But I hope Pop lets him rest for 2 full weeks.

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    a duck. I have a feeling for all intents and purposes that he is done for the season.
    I hate being the harbinger of bad news, but this is a distinct possibility. The fact that he said his knee had been hurting for quite some time raises all sorts of red flags.

    We will have to trust the Spurs training staff to give the correct therapies and hope that Timmy is a good healer......

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    The way things are going now, I say let him sit as long as he needs to.

    Give him that Cruzan cure -- some bush tea and bathe in the sea.

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    Yeah, that was an over-reaction from my own experience with tendinosis. I was comparing a tiny meniscus tear vs. advanced tendinosis. Mine would have been career-ending... if I had actually been good enough to have a career. No reason to think that Tim's is that bad, except that he is a big man who has been playing long basketball seasons for a lot of years.

    The problem with tendonosis is that the affected area of tendon doesn't get better with rest or therapy. Or that's what I thought. I posted earlier about a treatment that sounds like it can actually repair some (or all?) of the damaged tissue. The guy telling me about it didn't have much time to talk, but I'll try to get more details in the next couple of days.

    The basics were that they inject an irritant (dextrose?) into the affected area. That induces the body's repair response, and gives it a chance to heal the tissue with "normal" collagen. Here I'm just guessing, but it sounded like he was saying that some of the degenerative tissue could actually be replaced by healthy tendon tissue. I hope I'm not reading too much into it, but that's what it sounded like. I'm sure it would be an off-season treatment, in any case. So the rest of the season will be about managing the pain, and trying not to injure the knee any further.
    This is correct. It's a high percentage Dextrose solution (25%). Ultrasonography is used by many groups to guide treatment rather than blind injections.

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    He will be fine.

    Cmon guys, if it was that serious he would be going under multiple tests and believe me Pop would say he needs to be out 2 weeks or longer.

    The fact that he says he might play Friday (knowing how cautious Pop has always been) should say that he is doing good.

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    This is correct. It's a high percentage Dextrose solution (25%). Ultrasonography is used by many groups to guide treatment rather than blind injections.
    So what do you think TD should do? I think GSH stated it would better to keep working the injured area than just rest it, but i could be ing way off base.

    And how do you know what you do? Are you in the medical field somehow, or did you just research it?

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    Duncan was moving around well at the game. He also seemed to be in good spirits. Supposedly there's a 50/50 chance he plays Friday.

    Good news
    That's definately some good news.

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    So what do you think TD should do? I think GSH stated it would better to keep working the injured area than just rest it
    The people looking after Tim and Manu are top-notch. I'm just a guy who bleeds silver and black, like most of the rest of you.

    Stress reactions/fractures and tendinitis/tendinosis are prevalent with athletes and military personnel. I've got some personal experience, as have many friends. Guys like us don't have world-class sports doctors, so I learned as much as I could on my own. I posted what I learned for the other fans who are wondering what's going to happen with their favorite players and with the Spurs' season. I'm confident that the information I posted is pretty accurate, but none of it is news to the people making the decisions about Tim and Manu.

    The one big thing I have seen is that a doctor can't prevent a guy from pushing too hard when he is injured. If he refuses to follow medical advice, the doc will treat him the best way he can. (Including things like cortisone shots that take away the pain.) And a lot of unnecessary additional damage can happen to body parts. Tim and Manu are both tough and compe ive. It's good for them to have partners in the decision making process. Fortunately Pop and the Spurs FO are a class act. They will do the right thing.

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