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  1. #101
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    ^^ Are you dumb? Ariza played the ball, not the head.

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    He arguably attempted to hit the ball, but he also played the head. There are photos who make this pretty clear.

    Anyway, Odom with a 1 game suspension.

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    ^^ Are you dumb? Ariza played the ball, not the head.

    He's not even looking at the ball...be real dude...he wasn't trying to go after the ball, because in reality, it would have been simple for him to hit the ball. Horford was in a situation where Ford moved out of his reach too quickly. Ariza simply took a swipe. That's dangerous..and is a suspension..period. Or at least it should be, but because he's a Laker, it's not. And Laker fan can stand behind it all you want, but it's bull , and everyone else knows it.

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    Not a dirty foul. A hard foul for sure, but not dirty.

    Stop whining Spur fan, you're worse than Blazer fan right now.

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    Not a dirty foul. A hard foul for sure, but not dirty.

    Stop whining Spur fan, you're worse than Blazer fan right now.
    Dirty..hard...still deserving of a suspension, either way. You don't seem to comprehend that a foul doesn't have to be dirty for a suspension...once again the fact that you're a Lakers fan blinds you to reality.

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    So all the haters who predicted that Odom would get some preferential Laker treatment .... FAILED

    Ariza got a flagrant 2 which was appropriate. There was no intention to hurt and anyone who says he went after Rudy's head is a complete moron. If you have watched Ariza at all over his career you would know he is very adept at jumping to the side and swatting the ball just as he tried to do last night. He misjudged, brushed the head and due to the nature of the fall got a DESERVED flagrant 2. No intent to harm thus no suspension.

    Let it go... time to move on...

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    So all the haters who predicted that Odom would get some preferential Laker treatment .... FAILED

    Ariza got a flagrant 2 which was appropriate. There was no intention to hurt and anyone who says he went after Rudy's head is a complete moron. If you have watched Ariza at all over his career you would know he is very adept at jumping to the side and swatting the ball just as he tried to do last night. He misjudged, brushed the head and due to the nature of the fall got a DESERVED flagrant 2. No intent to harm thus no suspension.

    Let it go... time to move on...
    I'm one of those who did NOT think that Odom would get preferential Laker treatment, he left the bench, the tape shows that, that's a cut and dry 1 game suspension.

    However, any of you Laker fans who are defending this play must be blind because the picture that obviously shows he is NOT going for the ball is all over this thread. I also echo the sentiments of previous posters that this is basically the EXACT SAME FOUL that Horford committed on Ford last year and Horford had to sit out a game.

    So, Ariza got preferential Laker treatment.

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    odom didnt step on to the court, but did leave the bench area. rules are rules and they are just enforcing them. nothing you can do. now its undermaned even more against the rockets

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    Your original statement was:



    I guess you're admitting you were wrong and trying to change the subject, since I destroyed your original statement.

    If you have played like you say, and if you are big enough or can jump high enough to be a shot-blocker, you know you're wrong. You know that you go up with the guy and you can decide whether to go for the block, to hold off because you can't block it without fouling him, or to just whale away because you're trying to send a message.

    Ariza, quite obviously, chose option 3. And he made it worse by grabbing Fernandez, after hitting him in the head, and turning him in the air so he couldn't land on his feet.

    It was a nasty, dirty, thuggish play. And Ariza's lying his ass off when he says he was "going for the ball". He never got near touching the ball (watch the replay).

    The Lakers are Stu Jackson's boys, and he proved it today.

    OK , now Rudy is fully extended in the air and Ariza chooses to from behind to club him in the head and swipe at the ball. Maybe a legitimate attempt to block or just a poor decision on a play that could not be made. But what makes me wonder about his intentions is as you mentioned the grabbing of Rudy's arm/wrist as he is extended in the air.This is what caused the awkward landing. Why is he grabing and pulling Rudy into an awkward fall?Only Ariza can know for sure. I think that part is what makes it an extremely chicken and dangerous play.

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    Lakers fans can defend this all they want but we all know that had this been another player on another team he would have been suspended with no questions asked. As it's been proven many times before.

    Like a couple of seasons ago how can you suspend Horry for hip checking Nash (which wasn't that bad but Nash made look much worse) for two games and not even one for Ariza?

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    why is it that the spurs fan are arguing but blazer fans dont even care? i been looking at other forums from the blazers and they said that Ariza did not deserve a suspension, well most fans, spurs fan want to hang the lakers for commiting one foul

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    why is it that the spurs fan are arguing but blazer fans dont even care? i been looking at other forums from the blazers and they said that Ariza did not deserve a suspension, well most fans, spurs fan want to hang the lakers for commiting one foul
    Because its a message board that discusses ,players , coaches,issues ,events, happenings ,ect. of the NBA?

    It doesn't matter if Ariza is a Laker or not. It was a chicken foul.
    If that had been Kobe fouled by Bowen on exactly the same play ,I doubt the Laker fans would have been happy with timvp's tongue in cheek four game suspension suggestion.

    And if the Blazers fans don't care as you say about a foul such as that to one of their players then perhaps they should . But I doubt thats the case.

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    He's not even looking at the ball...be real dude...he wasn't trying to go after the ball, because in reality, it would have been simple for him to hit the ball. Horford was in a situation where Ford moved out of his reach too quickly. Ariza simply took a swipe. That's dangerous..and is a suspension..period. Or at least it should be, but because he's a Laker, it's not. And Laker fan can stand behind it all you want, but it's bull , and everyone else knows it.


    I think a good question to ask is:

    If Rudy had gotten seriously hurt by this incident, instead of just bruised, would the league hand out a suspension?

    It's hard to say the outcome would be any different but if you look at how he fell, it could have easily been the case -- which is what the rule intends to prevent. I think not suspending Ariza for this case sends a message that hard fouls, if made to look like unintentional swipes at the ball, are becoming ok again.

    I also couldn't imagine this same non-suspension playing out if, say, the layup man were LeBron.

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    ^ Good point. Had it been "Lebaron" the league would have voided Arizas' contract.

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    He's not even looking at the ball...be real dude...he wasn't trying to go after the ball, because in reality, it would have been simple for him to hit the ball. Horford was in a situation where Ford moved out of his reach too quickly. Ariza simply took a swipe. That's dangerous..and is a suspension..period. Or at least it should be, but because he's a Laker, it's not. And Laker fan can stand behind it all you want, but it's bull , and everyone else knows it.
    You are an idiot and try to use one picture to spew your nonsense. Clearly if you watch the video you can see him go for the ball. He was running from left to right in your pic and swiping as he did. In fact, your pic is after he hit the ball and rudy's left had with the ball moved quicker than rudys right hand, arizas hand, and arizas head. Ie. Ariza's looking at that second...where the ball previously was. I am at work and dont have photoshop so please excuse the guality of the pic... but you can clearly see that this pic was taken millisecond before yours. As you can see, arizas hand is on the ball... thats where hes looking... and where he is still looking milleseconds later when you decided to stop tape and post your BS.



    When I get home ill post a better quality pic to show your nonsense of a statement

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    Bowen would have been suspended for about four years. And then forced to meet Kobe in Colorado.
    You mean the Bowen that has gotten away with more borderline/downright dirty than any player since the Detroit Bad Boys?

    Be serious, man.

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