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he has sucked so far this season
yes their is work to do
but this late in the season you play 8-9 people
and right now barry is playing like a 12 man not a 6 man
He has found a couple of shots.
You think Barry sucks - fine.
Me, I think there is work to be done.
he has sucked so far this season
yes their is work to do
but this late in the season you play 8-9 people
and right now barry is playing like a 12 man not a 6 man
Why would the Spurs ever want to change Parker's or Ginobili's roles for Barry? They with Duncan form the core of the team and they're performing incredibly together. Asking Pop to change the offense for Barry would be like trading for Carlos Boozer and telling Duncan to move off the block (which is the main reason I'm in shock every time this board gets wet over the thought of landing him). Barry knew exactly what his role was going to be when he signed here. He knew he had to hit open shots first and foremost, and anything else he could bring was a bonus. It's his job to fit into a winning system. There is absolutely no reason to change something that has the team playing so well with Ginobili, Parker, and Duncan ripping the league a new asshole.
Thanks Kori. It'll probably be disappointing though...I am a pretty low key guy away from this board.
I just noticed that Gerryatrics is a SonicsFan...perhaps he know what he's talking about?
I don't think Parker is the problem though and I don't think it's got anything to do with minutes or starting either...it's just touches. I think he needs to hit an easy shot to get his 3 point shot cranked up...and I think he is getting some of the plays normally ran for Manu when he starts...hence the difference.
And yes, I imagine he thought it would be easier to hit threes on a team with Tim Duncan like we all did....but it's just not the same.
This guy is used to rushing his shots and not getting time to just stand around and measure up a 3 shot...he used to hitting threes under more pressure IMO...without getting much time to think about it...
And I think his passing is indicative of the way he would like be passed too...
I cannot stress enough how much I disagree with the categorization of Barry as a choker though...I thought he kind of might be before this season....but after watching him I have come to the conclusion that he most definitely is not a choker, at least not in the regular season...and RVB's stats back me up on this(97.5% now
You guys act like he's never been on a good team or been in a playoff chase before...he has...
You want pressure? Try to make the freaking playoffs on the Clippers...That's pressure. He shot 42% the year we played Seattle in the playoffs...
When I look at him I don't think he's afraid...he looks like a pissed off prick to me(like his Dad actually, he is a dead ringer for his Dad, facial expressions and all, and his dad was most certainly not a choker) and it catches me off guard when he says something funny because of his expression...I don't see fear though...his Dad had that same icy stare.
Geez Base...you act like we gotta tear up the whole offensive playbook just to run a couple of plays for him...how is running plays for him going to hurt Manu and Parker's game? The better Barry scores the easy it will be for them to score...
And that's crap about the Spurs not adjusting for Manu's game either...they have adjusted to his game...and Parker's.
And Duncan is Duncan...nothing s up his game except 4 down.
I think the solution to Barry's problem is to play him at the 3 in back up of Bowen. Give him the corner shots that Bowen gets. He cant do the same things Manu can come in and do (or even Devin Brown) and asking him to do them isnt right. However, give him that one quick screen play Bowen gets and the corner kick out 3's and he would be money. I also think he spent too much time on the bench getting preached too just like Tony did his first couple of seasons. The more he is allowed to be loose the better he will play. Tim thrives under that pressure situation Pop presents but other players dont, Tony Parker for example. Maybe Barry fits into more of a Parker mold.
Just my opinion.
I agree about the touches, and... Barry with Parker running the point equals less touches, Barry with Beno running the Point equals more touches. Not to mention Barry with Barry running the point.
Also, Barry starting equals more minutes which equals more touches. Barry playing more time with Beno and some of the other reserves equals more touches. That's why he plays better when he starts, in my opinion anyway.
Add on Barry with the Spurs actually running a play for him once or twice equals more touches and Barry with a small/fast lineup and pressure defense equals fast breaks which equal more touches...
I'm not saying Barry's shooting problems are because of Parker, they aren't, the only person you can put his shot on is Brent Barry. But he does play better with Beno running the point (remember, Beno = more touches) and he plays better when he gets involved with the offense instead of just standing in the corner watching the game. I don't think it would take a massive overhaul of the entire offense to get him touches, have him slash and attack the basket and give him a chance to make some of those sweet passes he's (in)famous for. He doesn't need to start, just get him involved in the offense and get him more touches. Then maybe, just maybe, when he's able to bring back the rest of his game, he'll feel comfortable with his shot, stop over-thinking and trying to finesse it, and his percentage will start to rise again.
Cheers,
Gerry
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