The funniest thing about this argument is that if Barry was shooting 40% from three everyone would be all over his jock like they were Hedo last season and I would probably be on the other side of it against most everyone(like I was last season)...I'd be saying 40% doesn't mean he's clutch...remember Hedo.
I don't have anything better. But assist to turnover ratio is about as useful as rebounds when talking about passing ability.
With something like that, all you can do is watch and comrehend. I've seen Barry make some bad passes. No more than other players on the team, but no less, either. If you perceive things differently, that's fine.
I wouldn't. I haven't been convinced in his ability to perform in the playoffs since the very beginning.
And I'm not totally convinced of it either...at the same time, I don't see anything that says he's a choker, what statistical data there is says otherwise, and I haven't seen any evidence of it this season either. And I've seen him play his best in our most intense games of the season.
He's definitely got issues but saying it's the pressure just doesn't sound right to me, because he's been on playoff teams before and San Antonio is like the least pressure filled market in the NBA...If I thought for sure he was a choker I would definitely not be defending him to this legth...The main reason I am not that high on Devin is because of the way he played in that Houston Game and in other crunch time moments...I hold them against him when talking clutchness and I would certainly do the same with Barry if he had done them...but what I have seen him do is come off the bench after sitting for the entire half and ice the game with two FT's...play well down the stretch against the Nets...and of course the Phoenix game. And I just don't think "pressure" explains the crappy performances against the really bad teams like the Bobcats.
On top of that I've seen this mofo beat us with a buzzer beating 3 pointer before...and playing(and possibly losing) with Gary Payton is pressure.
Who would've thought when Brent chose the Spurs over the Rockets last summer that the Spurs would've been better off losing that recruiting race, and then trading for Jon Barry. At a much lower salary, Jon is doing all the things Brent does, or is expected to do, but at higher percentages and with a meaner disposition(white guy with at ude, as whott says).
It's amazing that the Spurs were looking to fill that nagging playoff weakness of finding outside shooting and found A(as in one) guy known for that, plus with other skills to boot. Success.Meanwhile, Houston's roster is left in shambles after the TMac trade, with no guards to speak of. Even counting their mistake of signing Ward, they have managed to rummage around the league and end up with Sura, Wesley, Barry, and James to go with TMac on the perimeter. And all of them at reasonable to cheap contracts, especially considering they can do more than just shoot jumpers.
What does this mean? Is the NBA not as sorely lacking shooters as we're led to believe? Are there plenty of these guys still out there on crappy teams or on someone's bench? Or did Rockets' management do an incredible in season job finding affordable, aggresive, hungry, team oriented role players to provide a perimeter game with depth? Not 1, not 2, not 3, but 4...in the same season?!?
Obviously the Spurs didn't need that many, given the depth and talent already here. The point is only that I'm surprised the Rockets were able to go out and get that many nice fits in one season. I thought finding guys like that was more of a needle in a haystack in today's NBA where dunking is the thing.
Last edited by totalspurshomer; 03-22-2005 at 08:38 PM.
We didn't even have to trade for Jon since he was a FA...and Hoiberg was available too...It's silly that we can't find a use for Brent Barry though...it's ridiculous.
We've found many uses for him. He just hasn't proven himself useful.It's silly that we can't find a use for Brent Barry though...it's ridiculous.
I guess it just took the offensive geniuses in San Antonio to show the World that Barry really sucks worse than any player in NBA history, is the biggest choker in NBA history, and has absolutely no game, contrary to what every other season of his career seems to indicate. 20 million well spent and let's pat ourselves on the back. Who is the next guy we'll expose?
Buck Harvey is the worst writer in San Antonio History.
I'm not rooting for him. I think he should be arrested for stealing Peter Holt's money.
And that^^^^^^^^ should be the final word.
If anyone doubts who is on the right side of this...just know, if you are against Barry you are siding with the^^^^^^^^^CrackerJack Box Killer.
Wow manny sees the light! JK manny thats exactly right.He's not Rasho who can get away with clanging his every shot because he contributes on the defensive end.
If Brent Barry, was missing threes, but making 2 point shots, layups and going to the basket hard, and contributing defensively,
then I would honestly say, ya know what, his 3 is off, so what, hes contributing elsewhere.
But where else?? Defesnively he makes sponges look like sheetmetal.
his BBall IQ is overrated, he plays dumb at many times during a game, and he also does the absolutely maddening thing of driving to the basket, stopping 5 feet from the basket and passing OUT.
ARGGG SHOOT THE DAMN LAYUP BRENT.
In that respect, Brent will be getting big minutes tonight, and I hope to GOD he makes me look horrible and nails 4 of 7 from threes, makes some free throws, drives to the basket and lays the ball in.
THere are no shot blockers for the Pacers, so there will be clear sailing.
BRING IT TONIGHT BRENT WE WANT YOU TO PLAY WELL!!!!
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