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  1. #101
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    I dont understand why in an NBA forum this needed a thread... last week two kids 15 and 17 respectively got shot to death on a basketball match here in Uruguay and i didn't need to start a thread... if there was a Eurolegue forum then its different...

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    So can I change this thread le? There were no deaths, correct?
    Correct

  3. #103
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    I dont understand why in an NBA forum this needed a thread... last week two kids 15 and 17 respectively got shot to death on a basketball match here in Uruguay and i didn't need to start a thread... if there was a Eurolegue forum then its different...
    Well below the nba forum header, it says this is the right forum for european basketball also.

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    This rioting and vandalism goes to far.
    Last edited by Bukefal; 05-22-2009 at 08:46 AM.

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    So do we have 5 IPs already?

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    Sofo what's in your head? GioSugar's Avatar
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    You should also know that the 'Greeks' of today have nothing to do with the enes in ancient times who started civilization. Not ethnically, linguistically nor culturally.
    Is that a racist or what? Once again .... I am out of here

    What? How many times I have to ing explain it to you I have blond hair and blue eyes. My family line is right from Alexander actually.
    Yep and i am right from Leonidas, or did i have to say Socrates. But no
    Racist just go hand by hand...
    Great Alexander from Houston and his beloved friend

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    Is that a racist or what? Once again .... I am out of here
    Racist?! Why? Are you saying it is not true what I was saying? Are you saying that todays greeks are the same as ancient enes?!

    Nothing racist about that

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    Racist?! Why? Are you saying it is not true what I was saying? Are you saying that todays greeks are the same as ancient enes?!

    Nothing racist about that
    Yeh and the real enes are Macedonians..
    You can't stop the propaganda even in a basket forum

    Bye bye

    Bs.Somebody, delete my account pls. Thanks

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    Yeh and the real enes are Macedonians..
    You can't stop the propaganda even in a basket forum

    Bye bye

    Bs.Somebody, delete my account pls. Thanks
    No, since enes never were Macedonians, nor were Macedonians enes. Why do you bring Macedonians up? Were talking about today greeks and ancient enes, not about Macedonians.

    Second, this has nothing to do with propaganda. Someone was saying that greeks descend from enes, so i just answered. Isnt it a bit propaganda to think that today greeks are descendants of the ancient enes? Isnt it a well known fact that todays greeks do not have anything to do with ancient enes?? I regret you see that as racism, but it is not. And i regret you are leaving because of this. But well.
    Last edited by Bukefal; 05-22-2009 at 08:48 AM.

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    But what I do love in Balkan basketball clubs and what I miss in the NBA is that the whole crowd is yelling in harmony together, the whole stadium is lifted. A choir of everyone shouting the same yell. That is cool.

    While in the NBA, the only thing that is shouted is; "Defence, Defence" and "Go ....(team name).... Go!"

    Look at this, gives you goosebumps even while watching, lets not even talk about when actually being there:








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    No, since enes never were Macedonians, nor were Macedonians enes. Why do you bring Macedonians up? Were talking about today greeks and ancient enes, not about Macedonians.

    Second, this has nothing to do with propaganda. Someone was saying that greeks descend from enes, so i just answered. Isnt it a bit propaganda to think that today greeks are descendants of the ancient enes? Isnt it a well known fact that todays greeks do not have anything to do with ancient enes?? I regret you see that as racism, but it is not. And i regret you are leaving because of this. But well.
    Actually no, its not a well known fact at least not on this side of the world. Maybe it is where you are from but that doesn't mean it is everywhere. I wasn't engaging in propaganda, nor did I say "Today's Greeks are all decended from Ancient Greeks" I made a comment about how members of two Greek fanbases were acting like dumbasses. I will ask this though....why is it so far fetched to think that some Greeks today may be decended from Ancient Greeks?

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    But what I do love in Balkan basketball clubs and what I miss in the NBA is that the whole crowd is yelling in harmony together, the whole stadium is lifted. A choir of everyone shouting the same yell. That is cool.

    While in the NBA, the only thing that is shouted is; "Defence, Defence" and "Go ....(team name).... Go!"

    Look at this, gives you goosebumps even while watching, lets not even talk about when actually being there:
    You have never been in the upper deck at a Spurs game when they are losing. I guarantee you many more things are shouted!

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    Actually no, its not a well known fact at least not on this side of the world. Maybe it is where you are from. I wasn't engaging in propaganda, nor did I say "Today's Greeks are all decended from Ancient Greeks" I made a comment about how members of two Greek fanbases were acting like dumbasses. I will ask this though....why is it so far fetched to think that some Greeks today may be decended from Ancient Greeks?
    Dont get me wrong samikeyp, i wasnt saying that in a context to attack you or your words or something. i know how you meant it. I just added to that, with the word, 'actually' that those people have nothing to do with eachother.

    Its not far fetched, many think that, there is no problem with that, i was just saying otherwise. But its not true, Greeks themselves know that, scientists, historians.

    Modern Greeks today consider themselves to be the inheritors of the ancient Greek and Byzantine civilizations and cultures. Historically, the self-perception of the Greeks and the definition of Greekness have varied, but with the emergence and consolidation of the nation-state, from the late 18th century, Greekness was redefined along the lines of what some people call romantic nationalism.

    Modern Greece is made up of Slav Speakers, Albanians, Vlachs, Turks, Christian Turks, Roma, etc.

    Every nation is mixed, especially modern greeks. I was just explaining it. nothing else. nothing to do with racism. it was just a side note.

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    You have never been in the upper deck at a Spurs game when they are losing. I guarantee you many more things are shouted!
    yeahh, i was being a bit sarcastic. but the atmosphere is not like these balkan games right?

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    yeahh, i was being a bit sarcastic. but the atmosphere is not like these balkan games right?
    Probably not, the only thing that are thrown are insults.

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    No, since enes never were Macedonians, nor were Macedonians enes. Why do you bring Macedonians up? Were talking about today greeks and ancient enes, not about Macedonians.

    Second, this has nothing to do with propaganda. Someone was saying that greeks descend from enes, so i just answered. Isnt it a bit propaganda to think that today greeks are descendants of the ancient enes? Isnt it a well known fact that todays greeks do not have anything to do with ancient enes?? I regret you see that as racism, but it is not. And i regret you are leaving because of this. But well.
    My country name is Ellada andx i am inas. See the jersey of the national team....
    That is a straight attack to Greece and Greek people. You came out here with your fake Greek friend to call us not enes. This is ridiculous the next step is to attack to Boulgarians. I can't understand how a spurs forum allow such a propaganda against Greece and the repeatedly bad reputation of the KBP who have nothing to do with a real Greek.

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    WTF is an IP adress ? you geeks

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    My country name is Ellada andx i am inas. See the jersey of the national team....
    That is a straight attack to Greece and Greek people. You came out here with your fake Greek friend to call us not enes. This is ridiculous the next step is to attack to Boulgarians. I can't understand how a spurs forum allow such a propaganda against Greece and the repeatedly bad reputation of the KBP who have nothing to do with a real Greek.
    Stop linking KBP with me, i dont even know the guy. Its no attack to greece and greeks my friend. I dont know why you see this as racism ? You are a greek from greece, theres nothing wrong with that, and im not denying that either. So whats here the racism?

    I just said that Today Greek population are different than the Ancient Greek/ ene population who lived thousands of years ago. Whats racist about that?!

    Its plain logic, since its not possible for a nation today to be 100% geneous, which Greeks are claiming.

    you should calm done file

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    Dont get me wrong samikeyp, i wasnt saying that in a context to attack you or your words or something. i know how you meant it. I just added to that, with the word, 'actually' that those people have nothing to do with eachother.

    Its not far fetched, many think that, there is no problem with that, i was just saying otherwise. But its not true, Greeks themselves know that, scientists, historians.

    Modern Greeks today consider themselves to be the inheritors of the ancient Greek and Byzantine civilizations and cultures. Historically, the self-perception of the Greeks and the definition of Greekness have varied, but with the emergence and consolidation of the nation-state, from the late 18th century, Greekness was redefined along the lines of what some people call romantic nationalism.

    Modern Greece is made up of Slav Speakers, Albanians, Vlachs, Turks, Christian Turks, Roma, etc.

    Every nation is mixed, especially modern greeks. I was just explaining it. nothing else. nothing to do with racism. it was just a side note.
    You keep it going, if you want it come to get it. And take with you your fake Greek. The whole world knows that you came out of nowhere and your little country macedonia want to make problems to Greece and Bulgaria. You can't just attack to a country like that.Come and get it blond hair , blue eyes nazist

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    Stop linking KBP with me, i dont even know the guy. Its no attack to greece and greeks my friend. I dont know why you see this as racism ? You are a greek from greece, theres nothing wrong with that, and im not denying that either. So whats here the racism?

    I just said that Today Greek population are different than the Ancient Greek/ ene population who lived thousands of years ago. Whats racist about that?!

    Its plain logic, since its not possible for a nation today to be 100% geneous, which Greeks are claiming.

    you should calm done file
    Nope i am an inas from as

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    You keep it going, if you want it come to get it. And take with you your fake Greek. The whole world knows that you came out of nowhere and your little country macedonia want to make problems to Greece and Bulgaria. You can't just attack to a country like that.Come and get it blond hair , blue eyes nazist
    Ok, now youve turned it around. Instead of coming with arguments on my post, you start insulting. Which i did not do to you in the first place. Nice way to go.

    gia mas file.

    p.s.: We dont make problems, instead Greece has problem with albania, bulgaria, turkey, macedonia and even with the lesbian community.

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    Nope i am an inas from as
    Yes you are. But you do not have anything to do with ancient ines from Athina, sparta or thessalia

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    why is it so far fetched to think that some Greeks today may be decended from Ancient Greeks?
    Because those dudes call himselfes Macedonians wants to prove that Alexander is a his father and they want to take a big part of Greece called Makedonia and another one from Bulgaria. Ask a Bulgarian to tell you the truth.

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    Because those dudes call himselfes Macedonians wants to prove that Alexander is a his father and they want to take a big part of Greece called Makedonia and another one from Bulgaria. Ask a Bulgarian to tell you the truth.
    Ok, how then can you deny that you occupied that part in 1912? explain that.

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    it doesnt make sense going in discussion with you. You cannot even get my point in the first place and you are not able to come with the most simple arguments. instead you increase the image we here on ST already have of Greeks, by insulting and calling me a nazi

    Its a shame, for a moment i thought you were cool, guess you are not.

    Gia mas

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