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    Disagree.

    If Spurs sign a bigman with their MLE (Sheed, McDyess...) and Haislip contract is guaranteed, Spurs will have 6 bigmen under contract (Duncan, MLE big, Bonner, Blair, Mahinmi and Haislip). There isn't room left for Gist.

    Before the SL, odds are against Gist to make the team next year. He will need something like him being great in SL and Mahinmi being bad in SL to improve his odds.
    If the Spurs are signing another 3-point shooting big, I can't help but think Bonner's on a fast train out of town.

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    Haislip has always been damn athletic. He was basically a Stromile Swift clone before leaving for Europe. If he's added some skill to his game overseas, he could be a nice addition. And yeah, I agree this (if true, of course) means that Gist will spend another season in Europe.

    Going from YouTube clips, he looks better than the mighty Javtokas
    nonsense.

    I give you unstoppable power!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7fv4ziVupY

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    Disagree.

    If Spurs sign a bigman with their MLE (Sheed, McDyess...) and Haislip contract is guaranteed, Spurs will have 6 bigmen under contract (Duncan, MLE big, Bonner, Blair, Mahinmi and Haislip). There isn't room left for Gist.

    Before the SL, odds are against Gist to make the team next year. He will need something like him being great in SL and Mahinmi being bad in SL to improve his odds.
    Bruno,
    Do you think Haislip may be the long 3 to guard players like Odom, Lewis and Dirk?

    I don't see any of our bigs doing that job so Haislip may be a option to be tested

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    Why are people so thrilled?
    Because if Haislip works it means Bonner is a goner. The backup PF who can shoot a three would go to a more athletic Marcus at a greatly reduced rate. Bonner then might be used in some way to trade or do the sign and trade for our other starting big. Also, you never know if the Spurs are looking for a better SG than Mason to split time with Manu.

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    Bruno,
    Do you think Haislip may be the long 3 to guard players like Odom, Lewis and Dirk?

    I don't see any of our bigs doing that job so Haislip may be a option to be tested
    Well, I wouldn't call a "long 3" a player who can't play the 3 but Haislip is a mobile PF who has the tools to do well against other mobile PF like Odom or Dirk.
    Mahinmi has also on the paper the quickness to defend these kind of players.

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    Bonner for all his flaws was a very durable option the entire season in 08-09. He played as a starter despite having goods only for a reserve, and had his good moments in the course of the season and not so much in the playoffs. Haislip is an unknown quan y who failed in his NBA stint earlier before improving in the Euros. That is not enough to suggest that he can replace Bonner (who had a very respectable PER as well).

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    Hopefully just a non guaranteed summer invite type contract.

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    please don't let this be the it for the spurs offseason. if the spurs don't land a legit big man, not some loser that had to go to europe because no nba teams wanted him, then i'm going to vomit all over my keyboard.

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    This is concerning a litte, if it is for anything more than the minimum I would be unhappy. I was hoping the spurs would save their MLE and LLE for different players. Also would this cut into Blairs minutes a little?

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    please don't let this be the it for the spurs offseason. if the spurs don't land a legit big man, not some loser that had to go to europe because no nba teams wanted him, then i'm going to vomit all over my keyboard.
    Put down the razor blades.

    Our top two FA big man targets (Sheed, Dice) are still out there.

    This is a sneaky bargain signing. Would you rather have this guy for the min/LLE or Gortat for 30 mil?

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    Put down the razor blades.

    Our top two FA big man targets (Sheed, Dice) are still out there.

    This is a sneaky bargain signing. Would you rather have this guy for the min/LLE or Gortat for 30 mil?
    I would rather have Gist.

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    I don't really have any comments about this..this is obviously a signing for our bench depth, I highly doubt this is our big signing of the off-season LOL..didn't Pop specifically say that we're going to use the MLE on a 4?..

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    I think this could be a signing for the minimum, and they're doing it now, so that way the won't have to do it later. If it is guaranteed, then it means Gist is likely not going to be on the team. I fully expect Mahinmi to play with the Spurs this year. This probably means they're just looking for depth.

    Now they can focus on an MLE-worthy big.

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    Bonner is being dealt, as is Finley.

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    oh my

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    Just some observations. Under contract right now.
    Parker Manu jefferson Tim
    Hill Mason Finley Bonner
    Ian
    Blair

    so, I assume we have 10 players under contract. Leaves us with 5 spots open if we keep 15 players on the roster. Im really curious to how we fill the roster.
    If bowen came back and if we signed a big like wallase, then we would have 3 spots open.

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    I'm wondering why all the incredible lust for Gist. He may be good. May be. But so far all he's shown is a few good minutes in last years summer league. I'm assuming the Spurs have been monitoring his progress and have measured his development against Haislip's.

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    Don't overrate this guy. If we really got him for the min contract then that doesn't mean anything for Gist quite yet. We are thin on our big man rotation, and on our overall 15 man roster. We traded 3 players for 1 and are likely leting Vaughn and Udoka walk. We only have 10 players on contract, and Williams might not be on the team come october 30th. So we might only have 9 players, 5 of them being guards and 2 forwards who play on the outside. So 7 of our 9 (8 of 10 if you count Williams) players on the roster are outside players.

    Now we bring in Gist, Blair, Haislip, MLE big hopefully, to go along with Duncan and Ian. To be honest our only true big man that we know will make the rotation is Duncan. Haislip is probably the best big we can get without the MLE. And there is still no promise we can get a big from the MLE.
    I agree..........the issue we have to be concerned with is that the following players have known injuries.

    Ian: His nickname is Kandi Man because he breaks so easily
    Timmy: His knees are bothering him so he won't be playing as much
    Blair: The Spurs will monitor his minutes which will be limited

    So adding Haislip and Sheed and Gist is not that bad of an idea considering the possability of one of our bigs getting hurt. I also see Haislip playing alot more Center then I do at PF.

    So does this mean we are going to trade Finley and Bonner?

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    I think the writing is on the wall. Bonner and Finley and possibly even Mason will be on the chopping block. IMO. Spurs hopefully will pick up Sheed or Dyess. I wouldn't be too thrilled with any other big pick-up. But, they can still get a quality big and make it happen. Obviously, their first choice is to go after the proven bigs who can immediately fit in and make a difference.

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    Those videos are ridiculous. Dude is 6'10" and moves like a guard or small forward. Also, he looks like he can pass pretty well too. Better than that, though, is he looks so morose because he's not in the NBA! lol

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    Sounds like the start of the end of the Sheed quest...

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    I'm wondering why all the incredible lust for Gist. He may be good. May be. But so far all he's shown is a few good minutes in last years summer league. I'm assuming the Spurs have been monitoring his progress and have measured his development against Haislip's.
    Agreed. Gist was pretty damn impressive in summer league but it's highly doubtful he'll be a factor next season for the Spurs. Chances are that he'll either spend much of the year in D-League or in Europe.

    We'll see in summer league but he probably needs at least another year of refinement.

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    I don't know much about Hailsip, other than watching him play in garbage time when he was with Milwaukee. I've read what you've read, but I can't say that I've watched him play in a few years.

    I assume he's incapable of playing small forward, correct? I wonder about Gist as a Toros-bound project 3. Just a thought. Trying to get my head around the roster implications.

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    As long as we are taking a chance on a player from over seas, why not a younger player as well? Say we do get Sheed or McDyess, that is our second big man that will play in the rotation. Past Duncan and the MLE big who do we have that is a sure thing to be good? I am not saying that Gist is better than Haislip, but Gist will be a cheap player to have on the roster. And don't count Matt as a big man, he doesn't play in the post unless he is defending.
    Bonner plays PF, he is a big.

    I simply don't see Spurs having 7 PF/C on their roster and that's why I don't see Gist being with the team.

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    Why are so many Spurs fans connecting this news to Sheed? This would be a totally different signing. At most he'd make the LLE, which wasn't going to land a quality NBA bigman anyways.

    It's a flyer on an athletic bigman who has worked on his game over the last four years. It doesn't have anything to do with Wallace or the use of the MLE at all.


    P.S.

    We don't know if this news is true. Sports news out of Europe is notorious for being iffy. They straight up wrote a series of fiction articles about the Spurs being interested in Brontosaurus. This could be similar.

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