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Til when does Tiago have to decide before he can't come over(factoring in the beginning of his season with Tau, or any FIBA Championships/Tourneys)?
By the time the Spurs actually get him, they very well may not want him.
Til when does Tiago have to decide before he can't come over(factoring in the beginning of his season with Tau, or any FIBA Championships/Tourneys)?
Does anyone have a link to vi a pdf of an actual rookie scale contract? I would really like to read it just to try and find some sort of loop hole in the contract. What if Pop and RC promise not to pick up the 3rd year? Is that possible? I Wouldn't mind seeing Splitter and McDyess being the two centers this season, it all depends on how they break up the MLE/LLE, and we won't really know that till tomorrow or the next day, if not later. I don't know about Ian, but lets let the Spurs sign Haislip to confirm he is the LLE option before we go reserving minutes more him. If Splitter comes that also means trades are coming before the season starts.
That still leaves the curious comments by Splitter's agent, Herb Rudoy, as a head-scratcher. It's up to RC? Okay, you can't see it but I just scratched my head and squinted my right eye in a perplexed manner.
It's all good.
If that really was the case, I honestly believe (if 'Dyess were to come) he'd be willing to come off the bench as he did in Detroit. Especially if it gave him a better shot at a le.
Maybe Splitter wouldn't deserve to start over him, but it would net the Spurs both, instead of an either/or.
I'm pretty sure 'Dyess (and the rest of Spurs nation) would be down with that.
If you find the loop hole, you can ransom it to NBA GMs for millions.
Not unlike Bryant opting out and and threatening to opt out as often as he can.
I'm as perplex as you if Splitter coming next year depends mainly on RC.
Interesting twist to the Sage of Splitter. If the Spurs get McDyess, Splitter next season would be a luxury. Right now, I'm not sold on him being better than someone like Rasho.
But if the Spurs miss out on McDyess, taking a gamble on Splitter is much preferred to overpaying an average bigman. If the hesitation by Splitter is that he wants a guaranteed starting spot, I think that's pretty damn lame. Earn your minutes like every other rookie. If you're good enough, there's plenty of minutes to go around.
Isn't there a such thing as outlasting your usefullness? Splitter is on the verge of that with the Spurs. If doesn't come in 2010, and even that might be too late, then he'll likely never be a Spur.
It really is a head-scratcher.
The way Rudoy said that he couldn't comment at this time, and how he referred Miketinac to the Spurs, it's really baffling.
It honestly sounded like the Spurs could have Splitter if they wanted him..
There isn't a defined deadline.
If Splitter has negotiated with Tau about a leaving, it's quite sure Tau has put a deadline. For reference, the deadline fro Scola was on mid July.
I am not necessarily saying I would find something another good lawyer couldn't find, but we make it sound like there is no getting around the rookie scale contract. I have never read a contract dealing with sports and I would like to read it, has anyone on these boards ever read a real NBA contract before of any nature?
That's what I mean: two seasons ago, Splitter would have been a VERY GOOD ADDITION. Now, not so much. And if the Spurs add a legit big, ie Dice, then not at all.
I guarantee you that if there were any loopholes one of the FOs would have found them by now.
We can pay Splitter whatever we want starting in 2010, so that's likely when he'll come over, if at all.
!!! I can't help looking at this thread!
I am sure they FO's would have found loopholes, but I would like to read the contract, or the rules of said contract. I am sure different franchises have their lawyers draw up different contracts for different rookies, so really I guess I am more curious about what the NBA rules regarding rookie contracts are, just for my own knowledge.
That makes a bunch of us! Get the coffee, it's going to be a long night!
If Splitter stands to make a lot more money by waiting one more season there is a good chance that will happen.
I know, I get sucked into it every time it comes back up. I feel like an abandoned dog, you wait at the front door of your empty house, but you know deep down your owners will never return, and eventually you are to starved to walk, then it is only a matter of time.
That is also one more season of being unproven/risking injury/staying in the closet
Getting him now would be an awesome bonus to a potentially GREAT off-season IF McDyess comes to San Antonio. ( it is already great without McDyess compared to the last couple of years)imo
1) They would get him on the rookie scale contract
2) It would make Bonner VERY expendable
3) It would add our only other true 7 footer outside of Duncan who to match up with the Lakers and Celtics front-line.
4) Buford already made the mistake once about thinking like you, and coming up with a bonehead decision that Scola wouldn't be a good addition since they had spots taken up already by Oberto/ Elson/ Jackie Butler/ ect.
If Splitter wants to come this year, Spurs would be very stupid not to get him over here for the rookie scale contract. That being said I don't think the ball is in the Spurs' court like Miketenic might have said. The ball more than likely is in Tau's court first, then Splitter, then the Spurs.
Splitter/ Tim/ McDyess/ Blair/ Haislip/ Mahimni front line sounds too good to be true. Versatile/ Mobile/ Energetic Frontline we have wished for years.
Thank you very much, my good man. Ok, from the possible players at 3-5, who do you think will stick? Since the Spurs tend to have 5 bigs, and I have 8, I'll just hope Bonner gets traded, Gist stays in Italy, and... I have no clue after that. If the Spurs get Dice AND Tiago, I'm assuming the deal with Haislip will be cancelled, and Bonner will be salary dumped somehow. That would make six bigs, I have no clue how everyone would get solid minutes, unless Dice, Ian, and Tiago allowed Duncan to play 25-28 min most nights. Hopefully Fin is traded too, and Gist gets to try his hand at the SF. If it didn't work out, could he be a Toro?
3- Jefferson/Hairston/Finley
4- TD/Blair/Haislip/Bonner/Gist
5- Tiago/Dice/Ian
I'd normally agree, but with the amount of money he'd be giving up, it's hard to blame him. (if that is the case)
Besides, if you could get 'Dyess and Splitter and you'd only have to bring 'Dyess off the bench for as long as Splitter's successful, it's a win/win in my eyes.
I don't think Tiago's some risk of being a malcontent if he's not capable of handling the starting role. If his play warrants coming off the bench, I don't think you'd get much trouble out of him, as long as he wasn't banished to Pop's doghouse.
I just think he's probably been relayed the "horror stories" of players like Vag. that have claimed to have been lied to, and not given an opportunity to play.
I can't believe I've actually started to entertain the possibilty.
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