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i have a strange feeling hill has gotten better at PG over the summer he was supposed to go that mike bibby camp or whatever
be a great back up this year
The more young players you have competing for roster spots, the better.
i have a strange feeling hill has gotten better at PG over the summer he was supposed to go that mike bibby camp or whatever
be a great back up this year
I for one hope that the added depth (RJ, Dice?!?!) will ease Pop's nerves when it comes to playing irst and second year players. I hate seeing guys like Arron Brooks have breakout years on other teams and knowing that Pop would never give them a shot to play in front of guys like Finley and Vaughn.
Cool, I am happy with the sign. I am just wondering, who is getting the roster spot? Hairston or McClinton? Hairston can be our backup SF after Finely's last year, but I like McClinton as well.
And what about Haislip and Mahinmi? Are they getting roster spots as well? I can see Mahinmi getting a spot as the Back-up Center behind Bonner, but how will Haislip possibly fit in. With Blair and McDyess coming in, what will happen. I would hate to see Blair's development delayed.
Hill stepping up as the backup PG would make this team immensely better. His defense demands that he get court time, it would make life so much easier if he could get that time at PG and free up minutes for guys like Mason and McClinton.
What Mason did against the Cavs was shoot off the dribble. We know he can do that. He played point guard better than the guy he was filling in for, but that guy was Gilbert Arenas. Is it hard to be a better passer than Arenas? It also helps when nobody has any film on you at all, and when you're playing a team with terrible guards.
George Hill will get the minutes at back up point. We don't need to waste a roster spot for a 3rd string point guard like Vaughn. Especially if Gist/ McClinton show promise in the SL.
About Hairston, for the Spurs to go out of their way to sign Hairston today makes you believe Spurs are higher on him than Gist/ McClinton or any other wings in FA that would be available on the cheap.
It will be very interesting to see where all of our prospects end up once Training Camp is over with. Whether it be on the inactive roster/ Austin/ Overseas/ or on the Spurs' active roster.
Very solid points. But that still doesn't change Mason's performance at the backup pg with Washington, which, if it happened for a full season, instead of just half of the season AND the playoffs, he would have been a borderline All-Star.
I actually think the main difference is that Mason will NEVER have the green light he had in Washington minus Arenas. As such, he's was much more selective about his shots with the Spurs, hence not as productive.
Mahinmi is fully guaranteed and will be here, unless he is unexpectedly traded. Haislip most likely is fully guaranteed, so expect to see him.
Hairston on the other hand is most likely not fully guaranteed and will still be fighting for a roster spot along with McClinton, Williams and Gist (not for the same positions, obviously). Williams is already under contract, but it's completely unguaranteed for this season. He is trade fodder or can be cut for nothing. Hairston probably has a low guarantee that wouldn't be a problem to cut.
We'll see how it shakes out in the next few weeks for those guys.
Duncan, Mahinmi, Bonner, Haislip and MLE (whoever that maybe -- Dice please) are the only bigs. So, Blair and possibly Gist would round the normal 6 bigs the Spurs carry. Bonner could ride the bench, which most would hope for.
Can anyone answer me this?
Whats this obsession with the point guard label on a player?
A point guard is a player who creates for others with his ball-handling ability. Correct?
So what does that make Manu when he has the ball on all pick and roll opportunities when he comes off the bench?
What does that make LeBron in Cleveland when hes setting up Mo Williams and Delonte West in the corners for 3?
What does that make Kobe Bryant in Los Angelos?
My point being is it gets annoying hearing how "Spurs need a TRUE back up pg. Hill isn't the answer. "
Spurs have 3 players that can create off the dribble now Tony, Manu, RJ.
Spurs just need George Hill to play gritty defense and bring the ball up the court to set up the offense for Manu/ RJ/ Tim to create shots for others. And then when warranted, hit the open shot or create off the dribble after one of the big 4 creates initially.
McDonald said that Vaughn likely won't be back.
I'm thinking that he comes back - not as a player but as a coach in some capacity. I highly doubt he finds a spot on any team's roster as a player.
Tony/Hill
Mason/Manu/McClinton
Jefferson/Finley/Hairston
Duncan/Bonner/Haislip
Dice/Manhimi/Blair
Williams is gone in a trade or cut. Gist either doesn't make it or plays in Austin.
I also think their's a chance we trade Manhinmi. I'm not sold that he is ever going to pan out.
I'd bet that Bonner and Finley are definitely on the trade bait list, and will be treated as 3ed options at their positions.
I like the Bonner/Finely trade combo, but what can we expect to get back? We don't really need players. I'm curious what people think.
I assumed that was a given.
Happy with that. He is a good kid that has obviously been working hard on his game and deserves another shot.
The thing I don't see why anyone would want Finley and Bonner for anything we would want back. So essentially I am agreeing with the post a few above.
Yeah, Vaughn is way gone, no way there is room on the upgraded roster.
I wouldn't count on that. Spurs seem to like him. He can play the SF position. Hairston is probably more SG than SF - IMO.
It's possible, but as I said, Mason did what he did in a playoff series because nobody was keying on him, and he's great in the two man game. Unfortunately, the Spurs are more than a two man team, and require more from the point guard position than Mason produced in Washington.
And I'd submit to you that Mason will never have a green light like he does with Popovich. He's too easy to trap if there's nobody else to bring up the ball, and he's no longer a weapon at that point.
Great news! Now he can play with a player from his favorite team.
If Hairston is to make this team, he needs to develop a consistent jumper. Hill the same, although Hill should see playing time as the backup to Parker. I think his defense and play early on in the season was all that we needed to see to know that Hill was a good pick for the Spurs and needs to see playing time.
If Hairston gets a consistent jumper, he'd make a good backup SF for the simple fact that he can get to the rim and finish as well as defend. The jumper will make people pay for playing off of him. As for Gist, without a trade I don't see him making the squad. And if he's to compete for the SF position, then it might come down to Gist v Hairston.
I don't see how there are enough roster spots for everyone to make the squad, especially on the active game day roster.
Hairston is basically taking Udoka's role with the team. I have always liked his game and I'm proud of the Spurs for rewarding his effort, fidelity and professionalism.
Good stuff. They are going to train him to be our stopper. I hope he learns quickly.
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