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    Just bring in a solid power forward and lets start training camp already.
    With what money? Who is available?




    Yeah, Wade tweeting is respect. This is a minor bump in the road, and Lakers fans should have expected this from Odom. We wont even miss a beat.
    Please explain how they won't miss a beat?

    1) Was Odom the third best player last year?
    2) Who will make that up and what kind of consistent proof has the player demonstrated to lead you to this belief?
    3) Who will be the 6th man now off of the bench that will create a front court mismatch?
    4) What is the margin for error if Odom leaves and where do you rank the Lakers if he does overall?

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    When does the time to sign free agents expire?

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    With what money? Who is available?
    Sorry for asking again, but I am genuinely curious - but does anyone know for sure if the Lakers used the LLE to sign Brown?

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    Calling someone weak and puny from the safety of an internet message board makes you look weak and puny.

    And acknowledging the fact that losing Ginobili hurt us is common sense you idiot. For example, lets say Kobe tries to one-up himself and has his legs ripped off trying to jump an F-150 this year. Does that hurt your chances of repeating?
    First of all, Thompson, "weak & puny" is my materiel. Get your own, ya gd turdhound, you.

    Second of all, if what you suggest happens to Kobe actually happened, I'd keep my mouth shut about the injury excuses and take my medicine.

    Injuries are like made baskets, steals, et al as far as I'm concerned. I hope & pray we get no injuries, and quite frankly I hope & pray my opponents gets a bevy of them.

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    Sorry for asking again, but I am genuinely curious - but does anyone know for sure if the Lakers used the LLE to sign Brown?
    Here's a link to one of their boards, and the second poster seems certain they did. http://forums.lakersground.net/viewtopic.php?t=94519

    The only way to give Brown a contract larger than the vet minimum was to use one of the exceptions. Artest - MLE, Brown - LLE

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    Culburn, STFU got. You're the lowest form of life when it comes to sports fandom:

    1. You were a fan of the Suns for all these years when they got stomped by LA, Houston, SA and the other elites of the conference over the past 2 decades.

    2. You were so pathetically whiny that the Suns fanbase (which is whiny and laughably small in the first place) booted your ass off of the Suns forums

    3. You then proceed to turn around and fellate the Lakers, the franchise that bent your Suns over time and time again.

    4. When the Suns actually beat the Kobe Lakers 2 years in a row, you hid like a and didn't post on any boards

    5. Now when the Lakers are finally champs, you crawl out of your hole and proceed to claim to have been a Laker fan through all their storied history.

    You are like the rape victim who went back and offered a free blowjob to your rapist because you couldn't get laid.

    You will henceforth be known as "Laker " on these boards
    1. True. I invented O __.

    2. True. I invented phxsuns.net and the padlock they use to keep me out.

    3. Sadly the Suns bent us over in '06 & '07 pretty severely.

    4. Please.

    5. I look forward to your challenge, Warlord, with equal amounts of both anticipation & determination.

    Let us proceed...

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    Laker , you have no right to talk about self-respect.
    Come ta pappy, Warlord.

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    First of all, Thompson, "weak & puny" is my materiel. Get your own, ya gd turdhound, you.

    Second of all, if what you suggest happens to Kobe actually happened, I'd keep my mouth shut about the injury excuses and take my medicine.
    Your 'materiel' is pathetic. And by 'take my medicine,' do you mean yourself out to whatever team whips the Lakers, as Warlord23 mentioned?

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    Your 'materiel' is pathetic. And by 'take my medicine,' do you mean yourself out to whatever team whips the Lakers, as Warlord23 mentioned?
    If it's so pathetic then why did you scarf it up?

    And then you go from lifting my materiel to lifting Warlords!

    You damn David Robinson lightweight, you. No damn wonder the Mavs cleaned the floor with your weak & puny countenance.

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    Sorry for asking again, but I am genuinely curious - but does anyone know for sure if the Lakers used the LLE to sign Brown?
    I don't think so, but I am not sure to be honest. I was under the impression that they signed Artest with the MLE and that they had Brown's early bird rights so they can sign him up to the MLE without using it.

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    Here's a link to one of their boards, and the second poster seems certain they did. http://forums.lakersground.net/viewtopic.php?t=94519

    The only way to give Brown a contract larger than the vet minimum was to use one of the exceptions. Artest - MLE, Brown - LLE
    Thank you Thompson for the response. If this is truly the case, I can't see how Buss doesn't pony up an extra million and call it a night. Odom is definitely not "worth" $10M/yr when you compare his play, but when you consider how important he is to the Lakers and how the they have absolutely no alternatives out there to replace him - I don't see how Buss can resort to the hardball tactics that he has employed.

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    I read that the Lakers did use the LLE to sign Shannon Brown IIRC, but I could be wrong obviously, I'm far from a Lakers fan..

    I'd still be shocked if Odom doesn't re-sign with the Lakers, I'll be until he actually signs somewhere else..

    Odom will win in all this though IMO..Buss and the Lakers are going to give in, no doubt about that..it looks like Odom would genuinely be interested in joining the Heat, and the Lakers might start actually realizing this..

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    Next time, Thompson, come hard, else stay on the porch with the Jazz, Nuggets, Rockets, Magic, yourself and the womenfolk.

    Savvy, squirt?

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    Next time, Thompson, come hard, else stay on the porch with the Jazz, Nuggets, Rockets, Magic, yourself and the womenfolk.

    Savvy, squirt?
    What's the point of bantering words with a fool? Make an argument instead of hurling insults from a safe distance. Or, if you prefer, look me up in College Station any time you like.

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    Your thinking is backwards. If he really wanted to be a Laker...he would have signed already. But I think he will likely end up in Miami, which would hurt the Lakers chances greatly of repeating next year. After Kobe,Fisher, Artest, Bynum, and Gasol as the starting unit, who is there? A bench of Vujacic, Walton, Mbenga, Farmar, Brown, Morrison, Powell isnt going to get it done.
    Umm....no.

    He wants to be a Laker, he just wants more money.

    Miami cant offer anymore money. Theyve offered all they can.

    The Lakers, however, havent even come close to offering what theyre capable of.

    Thats why I say that if he was going to go to Miami, he would have done it by now. This is just a stupid ploy. He purposely leaked the info to get the Laker fanbase and LA media all riled up.

    Buss will cut the check. Book it. Or I wont post for an entire year.

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    I don't think so, but I am not sure to be honest. I was under the impression that they signed Artest with the MLE and that they had Brown's early bird rights so they can sign him up to the MLE without using it.
    I don't think the Lakers had Brown's early bird rights, but I could be wrong. He signed as a free agent with the Bobcats at the beginning of last year, which I thought negated his bird rights.

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    What's the point of bantering words with a fool? Make an argument instead of hurling insults from a safe distance. Or, if you prefer, look me up in College Station any time you like.
    Capitulation accepted, Thomps, old chap. I'll nail your scalp upon my teepee lodgepole right next to a thousand others.

    Nada hey!!!

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    When does the time to sign free agents expire?
    Does somebody know?

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    If Odom leaves this would be the lakers bench intro:



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    Does somebody know?
    Technically, July 1, 2010.

    In terms of this discussion, it doesn't.

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    If Odom leaves this would be the lakers bench intro:


    True, but, starting the whole ing thing off would be the inclusion of the "Your 2009 NBA Champion Los Angeles Lakers."

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    Does somebody know?
    I don't believe that there is an "expiration". Players can sign up to the beginning of the season, the middle of the season, or even just before the playoffs - but they will obviously lose more money if they wait until the season starts.

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    I will say this that Odom has a history of being a drama queen. That guy can be really a grade A at times. I remember back during the spring of '99 he had a problem with declaring for the NBA draft. At that time he had put his name in the draft pool and then had taken out and then had put it in again. He flipped flopped for a few weeks that nobody really knew if he was going to be in draft. Then at the last minute he forgot to pull his name out of the draft in time to be eligible to play NCAA ball for the next year. Once this happened Odom tried to make a plea with the league to somehow let him play NCAA ball next year because he didn't want to go tot he NBA. At that time he even skipped several nba draft workouts which lowered his stock but he still got drafted by the Clipps. Bottomline the guy is a drama queen nobody really knows where the he's going. This really does seem similar to the draft day stunt he pulled.

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    True, but, starting the whole ing thing off would be the inclusion of the "Your 2009 NBA Champion Los Angeles Lakers."
    I'll give you and your team props since you guys are the defending champs, but on another note if the lakers dont sign Odom would y'all be intrested in Drew Gooden? Honestly

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    I'll give you and your team props since you guys are the defending champs, but on another note if the lakers dont sign Odom would y'all be intrested in Drew Gooden? Honestly
    I doubt it, if Odom forsakes Buss---Buss will get his stubborn on & set sail with what remains....at least until the trade deadline.

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