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Kinda chuckled at that.
If either of those countries declared war on us, they'd be blown off the map before you could even sign the papers
He is right though, the soldiers are already there and are just making the best of the situation.
Placed in the same situation i'm sure even you would "buy" into those laid out principles because out there in the war zone, all you have is your platoon and squadron, nothing else matters. In the war zone either your with us or against us, and if your against us, then gtfo out.
Kinda chuckled at that.
If either of those countries declared war on us, they'd be blown off the map before you could even sign the papers
Speaking of the war, has it ended? I don't hear to much about it any more. Where did all the protesters go? It seems as soon as we elected a new president, all the "War" protesters pulled up their stakes and left.
lol. i didn't back off of . it just further solidifies that you're one dumb .
You sure did back off your stance quick. You should change your name to DPG's minion. Pussy.
don't want me to bring up evidence that you're a dumb ? don't type.
This is essentially brainwashing because when they tell these soldiers that they're fighting the good fight and really doing something positive, they're feeding them bull just to get them through the mission just like the American public was fed bull throughout the entire Bush administration. These soldiers, who with their lives on the line and looking for somewhere to draw their mental strength, readily buy into this bull and believe in it. In reality this war isn't even winnable because Muslims have been at war with Christians for thousands of years and are very set in their ways, they don't want us or our democracy in their land. The day we leave is the day they go back to doing it their way. Not to mention the little part where we aren't even there to set up a democracy anyway, we're there for oil. So in short yes, I'll take your advice and feel free to call it brainwashing.
When I think of "brainwashing", I usually think of blatant lying and false representation of facts. I wouldn't say that military leaders are doing either. I'd just say they're accentuating the positive.
Bush with his "mission accomplished" banner though... I think that they engaged much more in misrepresentation of facts. Which is why so many people thought that Iraq had something to do with 9/11, even years after the fact.
Well, alot of them pulled up stakes when the agreement was signed under Bush to get us out of there by 2011. If we're not out by then though, or the timeline lags, then people will be up in arms anew.
As well, we haven't heard alot about Afghanistan yet...
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I know it's especially bad when lakaluva actually is making some sort of sense.
Really? You don't think ANY soldiers are doign ANYTHING positive? What about the troops that go outside the wire to feed and vaccinate children? What about the troops that disarm roadside bombs? Many others join because they feel that they can make a difference, in some small way.
Your idea of brainwashing is very loose, it seems. It would be like you being 'brainwashed' into getting an IRA because a banker explained the positives of it.
Military leaders don't HAVE to explain the negatives... they're all pretty clear.
What a re . What oil have we got? Do you mean by creating a capitalist society where the oil is traded in the free market there by adding to the supply of oil not control by a cartel like OPEC? Is that your idea of Bush's war for oil. Besides our country being able to buy oil not controlled by murderous socialist dictators, what oil have we gotten for freeing Iraqi's from someone who gassed his own people? I support the war. I was apart of history helping the Iraqis have a better life. America has helped more people than any other Country, except maybe England. More people live a better, healthier life without persecution of religious beliefs because of America and our military. It is a shame that capitalism creates coward like yourself. You get to denounce your government officials because of our military. Because we fought in Korea, Russia did not attack us. Because we fought in Vietnam, China could not make all of Asia communists. Because we went into Iraq, Muslim extremists will not be able to create an alliance from Turkey to Chechnya. lakaluva, you are the one who sounds like a little sheep. The oil thing has been proven wrong, and yet there you are to keep bringing it up. Is it because that is all your professor told you. Do you need to go back to Huffingtonpost to get new marching orders? You don't even have an original thought in your head. THere may be dumb rednecks and negroes in the army but they aren't cowards. To join at a time of war is alot harder than sitting in your comfortable house trashing the people who keep you safe. Do you really think that without the military, we would have any of our rights. How is my family safe because of Iraq? Iraq is a democratic country, and is better off than if Saddam was in control. We showed the world that America will fight. That keeps us very safe. In the cold war, it wasn't until Reagan started spending a higher percent of our GDP that USSR fell. Actually in every aspect, politically and militarily, we are safer and stronger because of the Iraq war. Are we any more safe because your side with the enemy and want to hurt the effort? Have you made our country better or safer being a coward? Vietnamese Communists knew they could hold out until cowards like you took over in America. How many millions were killed by the Communists Vietnamese because America did not help. Do coward like yourself take credit for that? How do you know who is being killed in IRaq? Have you been there? Did you see an innocent IRaqi killed? Did the person who did that be brought up on charges? Did your newsreporter Jon Stewart or Rosie tell you we were killing innocent IRaqis. Maybe you should do some fact checking. YOu are a complete waste of life. Saddam violated 12 UN Resolutions, He killed over a million of his own people with his military. He tortured and killed hundreds of thousands of his own people with his secret police. His people starved to death while he lived lavishly and built up more of his Army (which was the fourth biggest in the world). He invaded and declared war on four of his neighbors. He tried to kill a US president. He shot and killed Americans. He allowed terrorists to train and live in Iraq, as long as they were targeting either Israel or America. He had ties to OBL and Al Qeda.
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Do you have any case studies to prove this? I hate when people say bull like it is actual facts. Muslims have been at war with Christians? In Iraq, there is a big christian community. The SHias and SUnnis both love the Christians. The muslim extremists have a problem with everyone. The wahabi's will kill you for growing your hair out. Majority of the 9-11 terrorists were wahabis. You do not know what you are talking about. About believeing in the war, there were alot of people who didn't believe saddam had anything to do with 9-11 and still realized, with everyone coming up thanking us, that iraq is better off without saddam. Do not paint some kind of picture of the soldiers as these naive kids. I would tell my soldiers that we are fighting the good fight. Just because you bought into someones bull about the war not being a "just war" do not act like it is finite measurement of fact. It is your Daily Kos liberal "imma " speech.
Can you assemble, perform a systems check and calibrate 50 cal? Even though they are National Guard, these still have more balls than u.
Name one time Bush said anyone who opposes the war is dishonoring the troops. I don't think he said it once. I have heard this before, it has become a truth because everyone talks about it like he did it. The fact is he never said that or hinted at that.
1. The Iraqis and Iranians are not brothers. The Iranians are Persian whereas the Iraqis are Arabs. The Iranians are all SHia. The Iraqis are Shia, Sunni and Kurdish. 2. The enemy of our enemy is our allie. Less Americans had to die because America perscribes to that (i.e. Iraq/Iran, USSR/Afghanistan). It doesn't mean either way because you wouldn't fight for your country anyway...coward. 3. You refuse to live in fear of Communists and muslim extremists. YOu have that luxury because of your countries military. 4. This countries military has fought against Imperialism, slavery, facism, communism, genocide, extremism. What has pussy liberal elitism ever fought for and had the courage to stick with? poverty...How is that working out for you? What facts are basing your idea that muslims hate christians. What a re naive notion that an entire group of people can be grouped into one generalization. Let me guess do jews have money and are French people rude too? pussy
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You're right about one thing, a lot of Americans are living in poverty courtesy of your very own savior George W. Bush
Impressive, You're a tough internet guy buddy.
Wow scary ...
Once again where are your facts. You haven't said one truthful fact based comment.
Bush was given a recession, and he kept unemployment under 5%. Obama has it over 9%. If you didn't like Bush fine, but use things that actually happened. The tax cuts brought in more revenue than all the companies BHO has bought. Bush created more jobs in his first nine months in office than BHO has. The thing about war on poverty was me being facetious. Since the Liberals declared war on Poverty, there have been more poor people created. It should be a crime what these politicians are doing to people. Giving them free money if they promise not to achieve a better living. So what do they do-stay on it. Then there kids do it and so on. THe people liberals were supposed to help are hindered the most. In every city that has been ran for the past fifty to sixty years by bed-wetting liberals are the ones with the most welfare, and the highest crime, and coincidentally highest taxes. Take from those who earn and give to those who want right.
You went to college where you became "open-minded". Then you and all your "open-minded" friends who are all saying, doing and wearing the same exact thing, start belittling and denouncing anything that you dont agree with. Very open minded.
You probably got a degree in something you cannot actually use like philosphy or political science. Maybe you just stayed in college and kept getting degrees because your mommy would always get you new cars, and clothes so you look good when you go protest against materialism.(no offense to anyone who earned these degrees and actually got a job with it)
You are probably a forty year old man living in your mothers basement blogging with your cheetos stained fingers.
Bush wasn't given a recession, he created one. The economy was great when Clinton was in office. You sir are a moron
You sir are impervious to actuality or real events. The Dot-com bubble bursted in Mar 2000. Then on Sept 12, 2001 we started the depression. It was because of Bush's free-market solutions that kept our country growing and creating jobs.
It makes sense you are a Mavs fan. You are stupid, you want things but aren't willing to work for them, and you 'shout-over' or mock instead of debating. It will never change that you and lakaluva are pussies.
Iran Iran Iran!
Thanks for that. It's Sunday and I'm too lazy to research the facts to shove down this idiots throat.
Fact:
"Dec. 21 (Bloomberg) -- President Bill Clinton left office in 2001 with a federal budget surplus of $127 billion. President George Bush ran a deficit of $319 billion in 2005. So who deserves more credit for fighting red ink?"
Keep talking, kid, this is funny.
I'm stupid because of a differing opinion than yours? What do I want that I'm not willing to work for? You know me well enough to call me a pussy? Sounds like you're the one name calling without knowing the facts rather than debating, hypocrite.It makes sense you are a Mavs fan. You are stupid, you want things but aren't willing to work for them, and you 'shout-over' or mock instead of debating. It will never change that you and lakaluva are pussies.
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