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    Not to nitpick it but if that number is accurate its still almost 12 years old.

    You don't call a 12 year old text book modern but yet you want to bring up that happened millions of years ago?

    Your circling the drain my friend.

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    I will readily agree with mouse on this one - the amount of bull , outright lies, that have been fed the youth of the secular nation up until these past few years is well do ented. Many exaggerations and outright deceit have been perpetrated by the scientific community regarding evolution.
    Totally agree.

    You don't, evolution within a species is Micro show me a plant turning into a bird then you can call it Macro



    Fossils are your worst enemy if your going to try and win a debate. They have been proven wrong and many different species have later been found to be alive today.

    But the fossil card is there is you want to use it.
    Just because genetic makeup changes doesn't mean my shoe would now be a horse.

    You don't call a 12 year old text book modern but yet you want to bring up that happened millions of years ago?

    Your circling the drain my friend.
    We're talking about an understanding that has evolved in the last 150 or so years. So yeah 12 years can absolutely entail massive changes and tons of new info. Your relation of time (millions of years) to my point has zero value in discrediting my opinion. We're not arguing what happened millions of years ago we're arguing the modern interpretation of what happened.

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    Carry on, I'll be ejecting shortly. Really just wanted to do an anti religion drive by. I hate god warriors. I hate the baby jesus and I hate you all.

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    Transitional Fossils

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    Carry on, I'll be ejecting shortly.
    Smart move while you still have 25% of your Atehists ass intact.

    Really just wanted to do an anti religion drive by. I hate god warriors. I hate the baby jesus and I hate you all.
    Where Did I post I believe in God, or is defending the Bible?

    I am after the truth and exposing lies, feel free to rearm yourself with more Monkey loving ammo and maybe later after a few beers we can continue this debate.

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    Perhaps Mouse or z0sa can give a better explanation of the fossil record and how life came to exist in its present form?

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    Totally agree.

    Just because genetic makeup changes doesn't mean my shoe would now be a horse.
    But yet you Atheist's claim 450 Billion years ago the earth was a hot ball of gas and liquid and formed small bacteria that later grew legs and later became a monkey, that means you all claim we all evolved from a rocks.


    We're talking about an understanding that has evolved in the last 150 or so years. So yeah 12 years can absolutely entail massive changes and tons of new info.
    That screen shot was from a do entary that was filmed in 1999 so it was very modern. I am sure if I do a Google search I can find many books today with his drawings. But your missing the point the kids are being lied to and you and others don't give a ?

    Your relation of time (millions of years) to my point has zero value in discrediting my opinion. We're not arguing what happened millions of years ago we're arguing the modern interpretation of what happened.
    Ok cool just don't bring up anything from Millions of years ago and I won't either, I don't see how you can debate Evolution without talking about millions of years but we can give it a shot.

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    Perhaps Mouse or z0sa can give a better explanation of the fossil record and how life came to exist in its present form?
    God dun der thunk it up.

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    Perhaps Mouse or z0sa can give a better explanation of the fossil record and how life came to exist in its present form?
    You go from trying to make us look bad with your vast knowledge of how life came about to asking how life came about?

    I am not here to educate your backwoods Portland ass I am here to expose your lies.

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    God dun der thunk it up.

    Your ejection form the topic took a back seat?

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    Pizza guy is at the door and Digg's town is on the VCR see you guys later tonight?


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    You go from trying to make us look bad with your vast knowledge of how life came about to asking how life came about?

    I am not here to educate your backwoods Portland ass I am here to expose your lies.
    I tell no lies. Only truth.

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    You go from trying to make us look bad with your vast knowledge of how life came about to asking how life came about?

    I am not here to educate your backwoods Portland ass I am here to expose your lies.

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    But yet you Atheist's claim 450 Billion years ago the earth was a hot ball of gas and liquid and formed small bacteria that later grew legs and later became a monkey, that means you all claim we all evolved from a rocks.
    I'm not making grand claims. I'll dabble here and there when some of what you guys say doesn't add up to some of what I've read or remember, but thats about it. I don't believe in your God and I don't believe the world to be as young as 10k years. I'm not really claiming a whole lot more in here other than adaptation or micro evolution is pretty well a stone cold fact.

    I understand how much better it makes you feel to thump your non-primal chests and claim victory. Good for you.

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    I am not here to educate your backwoods Portland ass I am here to expose your lies.
    The irony in a thumper attempting to expose lies.

    I may hold off on the eject button if this is going to end up in hurt feeling and insults. I have about 30 minutes before I head home.

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    But yet you Atheist's claim 450 Billion years ago the earth was a hot ball of gas and liquid and formed small bacteria that later grew legs and later became a monkey, that means you all claim we all evolved from a rocks.
    You really need to do your research. The earth is between 4 and 5 billion years old. Not 450 billion.

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    Still waiting for a reply to the Transitional fossil video

    They asked for one, i provided a video full of them

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    I can post a youtube link of pigs flying does that really mean they are real?

    Stick with the facts vato!

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    FEATHER-COVERED DINOSAUR FOSSILS FOUND
    Pea -sized creature predates the oldest known bird By Sid Perkins
    Web edition : Friday, September 25th, 2009

    BRISTOL, England — A newly described, profusely feathered dinosaur may give lift to scientists’ understanding of bird and flight evolution, researchers report. The lithe creature, which stood about 28 centimeters tall at the hip, is the oldest known to have sported feathers and is estimated to be between 1 million and 11 million years older than Archaeopteryx, the first known bird.

    Several fossils of the creature, which has been dubbed Anchiornis huxleyi, have been unearthed in northeastern China, Xing Xu reported September 25 at the annual meeting of the Society of Vertebrate Paleontology. The strata that contained those feathered fossils were laid down as sediments between 151 million and 161 million years ago, he and his colleagues note online September 24 in Nature.

    Two types of feather adorn the creature, said Xu, of the Ins ute of Vertebrate Paleontology and Paleoanthropology in Beijing. One kind, commonly referred to as “dino-fuzz,” resembles a frayed bundle of filaments. The other type, similar in overall structure to the feathers of modern-day birds, consists of small filaments that branch from a larger shaftlike filament.

    The dino-fuzz decorates the creature’s head and neck. About two dozen of the shafted feathers adorn each forelimb, and a similar number embellish each lower leg and foot, the researchers report. Unlike most feathered dinosaurs described previously, which have the longest forelimb feathers near the tip of the limb, Anchiornis’ longest forelimb feathers are on the wrist, Xu said. Feathers on the legs and feet appear to have overlapped each other, creating aerodynamic surfaces that would have, in essence, given Anchiornis a wing on each of its four limbs. A similar configuration has been seen in other feathered dinosaurs, including Microraptor (SN: 1/27/07, p. 53) and Archaeopteryx (SN: 9/23/06, p. 197).

    With so many species with this arrangement, the four-winged configuration must have been an important phase in the evolutionary transition from dinosaurs to birds, says James M. Clark, a vertebrate paleontologist at George Washington University in Washington, D.C.

    Larry D. Martin, a paleontologist at the University of Kansas in Lawrence, agrees. The profuse plumage on Anchiornis’ feet, he notes, also suggests that the creature was a tree dweller, bolstering the notion that flight developed from the trees down, not from the ground up. “No dinosaur could walk well with feathers on its feet like that,” he adds.

    Many scientists scoff at the suggestion that the filamentary structures found on some dinosaurs, especially those unearthed in China in recent years, represent nascent feathers. But those creatures lived many millions of years after Archaeopteryx, which had feathers indistinguishable from those on modern-day birds. The new find is important because it undoubtedly includes the oldest known feathers on any creature, says Mike Benton, a vertebrate paleontologist at the University of Bristol in England and cochair of the Society of Vertebrate Paleontology meeting.

    “These exceptional fossils provide us with evidence that has been missing until now,” Xu said. “Now it all fits neatly into place, and we have tied up some of the loose ends.”

    http://www.sciencenews.org/view/gene..._fossils_found

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    So if a Fossil is found with a man still on a cross that that mean there was a Jesus?

    You guys need to stop looking at old rocks and show us a 1/2 monkey 1/2 man already!

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    Goggle China fake fossils watch your pc freeze up.

    http://archosaurmusings.wordpress.co...demonstration/

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    You've heard of carbon dating, right? The earth is a few billion years old. That's not a theory or anything, that's a well established fact.

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