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    30 days is fine, 48 hrs is asking too much. If Floyd walks away because he won't submit to testing 48 hrs before, then yeah he is scared to fight..

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    Right, but will it in any way affect him negatively if he does it? Even if it was 48 hours before the fight?
    im not sure, but here is what Roach said:

    Pacquiao’s trainer said the Filipino boxer, who has already compiled 50 wins against 3 losses and 2 draws (with 38 KOs), can easily pass any type of drug test. What he’s opposed to is having his boxer give blood a day before the fight.

    “It's just like having sex before a fight. You're not supposed to have sex before a fight, it makes you weak. If you mentally think that, it will. When Manny gives blood it takes him 3 or 4 days to recover from it. I am not going to have my fighter going into a fight feeling weak and not sure of himself,” he said.

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    im not sure, but here is what Roach said:

    Pacquiao’s trainer said the Filipino boxer, who has already compiled 50 wins against 3 losses and 2 draws (with 38 KOs), can easily pass any type of drug test. What he’s opposed to is having his boxer give blood a day before the fight.

    “It's just like having sex before a fight. You're not supposed to have sex before a fight, it makes you weak. If you mentally think that, it will. When Manny gives blood it takes him 3 or 4 days to recover from it. I am not going to have my fighter going into a fight feeling weak and not sure of himself,” he said.
    Ok then have him take it a week or week and a half before the fight and then have them both tested after.
    Does Floyd have to have this done if Manny agrees?

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    Manny is an odd dude from a different culture and is very supers ious so I can see him not wanting his blood taken before the fight in any way. There is no difference if they test 48 hours before the fight or 48 after, why not test after?

    Floyd is scared. He doesn't know he'll lose but he has doubts. For the first time he's painted into a corner that he didn't get into with Margarito, Cotto, or Mosely. He's trying to bail but not look like a pussy.

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    Ok then have him take it a week or week and a half before the fight and then have them both tested after.
    Does Floyd have to have this done if Manny agrees?
    Roach doesnt want it during camp cuz it screws up training.

    Dbreiden hit it right. They should just do the test right before camp starts.

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    im not sure, but here is what Roach said:

    Pacquiao’s trainer said the Filipino boxer, who has already compiled 50 wins against 3 losses and 2 draws (with 38 KOs), can easily pass any type of drug test. What he’s opposed to is having his boxer give blood a day before the fight.

    “It's just like having sex before a fight. You're not supposed to have sex before a fight, it makes you weak. If you mentally think that, it will. When Manny gives blood it takes him 3 or 4 days to recover from it. I am not going to have my fighter going into a fight feeling weak and not sure of himself,” he said.
    Roach is micro-managing the out of Manny..

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    There are issues on both ends. Mayweather is demanding a little too much. It's never been used for any other mega fight and it's not like Pacman has been caught before. And then I see the aspect of well, if Manny has nothing to hide, just do the test. Both sides have points and I just hope they can find a way to compromise.
    I also look at it from another angle. If I'm Mayweather (and truly want this fight to happen, which he doesn't), I take the badass at ude and say, "Screw it, I'll beat this guy whether he's doping or not." Two scenarios come out of that:

    1.) Mayweather wins, gets a ridiculous payout and never has to fight again

    2.) Mayweather loses, gets a ridiculous payout, probably gets a chance at a rematch, gets another ridiculous payout

    He's trying to bail but not look like a pussy.
    +1

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    Breaking news:
    Dan Rafael (2:50 PM)


    Bob is saying they will agree to three tests and wants to use the agencies that deal with MLB or NBA, etc...

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    Breaking news:
    Dan Rafael (2:50 PM)


    Bob is saying they will agree to three tests and wants to use the agencies that deal with MLB or NBA, etc...
    Now we're getting somewhere..

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    Roach is micro-managing the out of Manny..
    Roach is too controlling. He lucked out landing Manny.

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    breaking news:
    Dan rafael (2:50 pm)


    bob is saying they will agree to three tests and wants to use the agencies that deal with mlb or nba, etc...
    boo ya

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    Dan Rafael (2:59 PM)


    Bob says they want to keep the fight on track but that Manny will not do it via the USADA. They want to do it like the NFL and NBA and use their protocal. I think this fight will be saved.

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    Dan Rafael (2:59 PM)


    Bob says they want to keep the fight on track but that Manny will not do it via the USADA. They want to do it like the NFL and NBA and use their protocal. I think this fight will be saved.
    If that's the case then yeah!


    As far as the cultrue stuff. Well does anyone know for sure about the blood thing or is it just made up? Just throwing out reasons like that with no basis is kind of re ed.

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    HERE WE GO BOYS!

    In response to the release sent out Tuesday by Mayweather Promotions and Golden Boy Promotions which stated that Mayweather vs. Pacquiao was “in jeopardy,” Bob Arum, chairman of Top Rank, the promoter of seven-division world champion Manny Pacquiao, had the following to say: “Let’s be very clear on the real issues we differ on. It’s not about being tested. Manny is onboard with that since it’s such a major concern of Floyd Mayweather, Jr. It’s about who does the testing and the scheduling of the procedures. Manny will submit to as many random urine tests requested. Regarding the blood tests, he will subject himself to three tests; one given in January during the week the fight is formally announced, one thirty days from the fight, no later than February 13, and the final one immediately following the fight, in Manny’s locker room. The major issue related to the testing rests with which independent agency will administer these tests. The United States Anti Doping Agency (USADA) cannot do it because they will not amend its procedures to accommodate the blood testing schedule we have outlined. USADA, under its guidelines, would have the right to administer random blood tests as many times as they want up to weigh-in day and that is ludicrous.
    “Our suggestion is to utilize any of the independent agencies that work with the National Football League, the National Basketball Association or Major League Baseball, since they administer drug testing for their professional athletes.”

    New York-based athletic physician, Dr. Keith Pyne, a private injury consultant for NFL athletes and those who participate in running and combat sports, told AOL Fanhouse,
    “I have more than 800 guys who are special athletes who are all drug-tested. And the urine testing is sufficient that you won’t miss anything, especially with performance-enhancing drugs. So, yes, I believe that the urine testing is more than sufficient for boxing. If you’re using steroids, it’s going to come up for sure in urine. There’s no way it’s going to get through the liver and the kidney without being detected.”

    “If Mayweather Promotions and Golden Boy Promotions are sincere in creating ‘a level playing field,’ as they stated in their release, our recommendations should put their minds at ease,” said Arum. “If not, one has to wonder if their motives are more about leveling the fight.”

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    Yeah. Why not just do a piss test? That wouldn't disrupt training. Floyd demands blood!

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    HGH cannot be traced in urine. Need the blood test, but 30 before then right after should be good. Mayweather is playing mind games as usual.

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    lol

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    This guy has very little common sense and boxing knowledge.

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    Come on Pacquiao you pussy...

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    Come on Pacquiao you pussy...
    Come on Mayweather you pussy...

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    HGH cannot be traced in urine. Need the blood test, but 30 before then right after should be good. Mayweather is playing mind games as usual.
    HGH is the issue here for sure..

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    Come on Mayweather you pussy...
    Why is Mayweather the pussy? Paquiao is the one refusing to do the testing...Hmm....

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    Why is Mayweather the pussy? Paquiao is the one refusing to do the testing...Hmm....
    He's not refusing testing, he's refusing testing right before the fight because it's unecessary and could up his stamina and mojo for the fight. Testing right before camp then imeediately after the fight is the same thing, Mayweather is ducking as usual and is being a giant pussy.

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    Legacy of Floyd Mayweather Jr. :

    The skills to be the best all time but too much of a pussy to prove it.

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    Money's making Pacquiao look foolish. Never before in boxing history has one fighter been so outmatched when it comes to talking. It's a shame Pac's going to demolish him if they ever fight.

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