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    I have yet to see any Laker fans here make a good argument for Kobe in any regard..great player, top 10 all-time, but his fans have a really hard time making good arguments in his favor..

    When you prove them wrong, they call you a hater and try to change the subject..

    Laker fans ignore the role he played for the first 3 les, they ignore his career efficiency % in comparison to others, they downplay his lack of success in PER, they ignore his lack of success in Finals MVP, they ignore his poor play in the 2004 and 2008 Finals, they ignore his lacking accolades in comparison, they exaggerate trivial aspects like buzzer beaters to hype him up..

    Most of them are young fans who never saw MJ play.

    Most of them don't even understand Kobe has bitten off so much of MJ's game. and he's still not as good as MJ at it, which is hilarious to me.

    They see the replays of a Kobe highlight, and I say to myself, "I've seen this before, only this version is not as good"

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    Most of them are young fans who never saw MJ play.

    Most of them don't even understand Kobe has bitten off so much of MJ's game. and he's still not as good as MJ at it, which is hilarious to me.

    They see the replays of a Kobe highlight, and I say to myself, "I've seen this before, only this version is not as good"
    Most of the people who think Kobe is not close to Jordan never saw Jordan play they just look up stats on the internet. You really can't compare the two players unless you saw them both play. If you want to pull out stats Wilt crushes Jordan.

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    LeBron is only 25 years old.

    He came into the league rocking the NBA at 18 years old, while Kobe was on the bench his first 3 years.

    It's quite obvious LeBron is going to end up with several FInals MVP's, he's already greater than Kobe to me.

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    Most of the people who think Kobe is not close to Jordan never saw Jordan play they just look up stats on the internet. If you want to pull out stats Wilt crushes Jordan.
    Bull , Wilt is a center so it's obvious he will have more rebounds and blocks, and higher FG%. HOWEVER

    Wilt = 7 consecutive scoring les
    Jordan = 7 consecutive scoring les

    Jordan = 10 scoring les, most in NBA history
    Jordan = Highest career average PPG in NBA history

    Wilt = #4 on All-Time scoring list
    Jordan = #3 on All-Time scoring list

    Wilt = 1 Finals MVP, 2 championships
    Jordan = 6 Finals MVP, 6 Championships

    Wilt = 0 defensive player of the year
    Jordan = 1 Defensive player of the year (also led the league in scoring)

    Wilt = 4 league MVP's
    Jordan = 5 league mvp's (it was joked he should have had more, but everyone was tired of voting for him)


    again, go argue with NBA.com

    They say Jordan is the GOAT.

    Go suck some , you fail at life. You can't change facts to prop up Kobe.

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    LeBron is only 25 years old.

    He came into the league rocking the NBA at 18 years old, while Kobe was on the bench his first 3 years.

    It's quite obvious LeBron is going to end up with several FInals MVP's, he's already greater than Kobe to me.
    It was obvious last year that the Cavs would beat the Magic too right?

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    Bull , Wilt is a center so it's obvious he will have more rebounds and blocks, and higher FG%. HOWEVER
    Yeah let's just forget about all those stats because he was a center. Lets forget he averaged 50 pts a game in a season too. LOL!

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    LeBron is only 25 years old.

    He came into the league rocking the NBA at 18 years old, while Kobe was on the bench his first 3 years.

    It's quite obvious LeBron is going to end up with several FInals MVP's, he's already greater than Kobe to me.
    Kobe came into the league on a veteran contending team. He would have started day one on the Cavs team and you know it.

    You are en led to your opinion just as everyone else but there is no way you can factualy compare eras. Not possible.

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    lol@ laker fans

    they are so stupid, even in the face of HUGE adversity, they think there is a conspiracy against them

    it CAN'T be that their fake ass star is not even close to being near MJ
    Who gives a damn? I sure as do not care who is better..I just enjoy the game of basketball all together...as well as MJ and Kobe.

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    Most of them are young fans who never saw MJ play.

    Most of them don't even understand Kobe has bitten off so much of MJ's game. and he's still not as good as MJ at it, which is hilarious to me.

    They see the replays of a Kobe highlight, and I say to myself, "I've seen this before, only this version is not as good"
    agree. stop owning them Miamiheat lol. these laker fans are hurting their vaginas right now.

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    agree. stop owning them Miamiheat lol. these laker fans are hurting their vaginas right now.
    How old are you? Did you see Jordan play his entire career like I did?

    Yeah...that's what I thought.

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    Who gives a damn? I sure as do not care who is better..I just enjoy the game of basketball all together...as well as MJ and Kobe.
    Uh, insecure Lakers fans does?



    Look, just accept the fact that Kobe will never be better than MJ. He's not even better than Magic lol. and Lebron is on his way onto edging out Kobe when all is said and done.



    Again, Kobe has not won a DPOY, never shot above 50% FG, only has 1 Finals MVP and 1 regular season MVP lol.

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    Bull , Wilt is a center so it's obvious he will have more rebounds and blocks, and higher FG%. HOWEVER

    Wilt = 7 consecutive scoring les
    Jordan = 7 consecutive scoring les

    Jordan = 10 scoring les, most in NBA history
    Jordan = Highest career average PPG in NBA history

    Wilt = #4 on All-Time scoring list
    Jordan = #3 on All-Time scoring list

    Wilt = 1 Finals MVP, 2 championships
    Jordan = 6 Finals MVP, 6 Championships

    Wilt = 0 defensive player of the year
    Jordan = 1 Defensive player of the year (also led the league in scoring)

    Wilt = 4 league MVP's
    Jordan = 5 league mvp's (it was joked he should have had more, but everyone was tired of voting for him)


    again, go argue with NBA.com

    They say Jordan is the GOAT.

    Go suck some , you fail at life. You can't change facts to prop up Kobe.
    Talk about changing facts. Do some research before posting yours or at the very least qualify them. You just toss them out as if they are fact. \

    - the All-Defensive Team award was established in the 1968-69 season. Chamberlain and Russell would have been there many, many times.

    - The Finals MVP award was established for the 1968-69 NBA Finals, It was Russell's final season.

    - Steals and blocks: These stats weren't officially recorded until the 1974 season, Russell and Chamberlain could have lead the league in blocks many times, and Abdul-Jabbar surely would have been at the top of the blocks category a couple of times more than the 4 times he was.

    - Defensive Player of the Year: this award wasn't issued until the 1983 season, It's safe to say that Bill Russell would have won quite a few of these, and Chamberlain probably would have won it in 1972 and 1973.

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    Uh, insecure Lakers fans does?



    Look, just accept the fact that Kobe will never be better than MJ. He's not even better than Magic lol. and Lebron is on his way onto edging out Kobe when all is said and done.



    Again, Kobe has not won a DPOY, never shot above 50% FG, only has 1 Finals MVP and 1 regular season MVP lol.
    I told you I don't care...rofl.

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    Yeah let's just forget about all those stats because he was a center. Lets forget he averaged 50 pts a game in a season too. LOL!
    LOL
    again, look at the stats presented below. Jordan edges the mythical Wilt Chamberlain

    Wilt = 7 consecutive scoring les
    Jordan = 7 consecutive scoring les

    Jordan = 10 scoring les, most in NBA history
    Jordan = Highest career average PPG in NBA history

    Wilt = #4 on All-Time scoring list
    Jordan = #3 on All-Time scoring list

    Wilt = 1 Finals MVP, 2 championships
    Jordan = 6 Finals MVP, 6 Championships

    Wilt = 0 defensive player of the year
    Jordan = 1 Defensive player of the year (also led the league in scoring)

    Wilt = 4 league MVP's
    Jordan = 5 league mvp's (it was joked he should have had more, but everyone was tired of voting for him)


    again, go argue with NBA.com

    They say Jordan is the GOAT.

    Go suck some , you fail at life. You can't change facts to prop up Kobe.

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    LOL
    again, look at the stats presented below. Jordan edges the mythical Wilt Chamberlain

    Talk about changing facts. Do some research before posting yours or at the very least qualify them.

    - the All-Defensive Team award was established in the 1968-69 season. Chamberlain and Russell would have been there many, many times.

    - The Finals MVP award was established for the 1968-69 NBA Finals, It was Russell's final season.

    - Steals and blocks: These stats weren't officially recorded until the 1974 season, Russell and Chamberlain could have lead the league in blocks many times, and Abdul-Jabbar surely would have been at the top of the blocks category a couple of times more than the 4 times he was.

    - Defensive Player of the Year: this award wasn't issued until the 1983 season, It's safe to say that Bill Russell would have won quite a few of these, and Chamberlain probably would have won it in 1972 and 1973.

    Ooops, somebody just got owned. Say goodnight now MiamiHeat and ChrisRichards you are both showing your young age. It's past your bedtime. Leave the forums for the adults now.

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    agree. stop owning them Miamiheat lol. these laker fans are hurting their vaginas right now.
    Hey look... Miami's alter ego has arrived!

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    Hey look... Miami's alter ego has arrived!
    im not MiamiHeat lol. I just happen to agree with his posts and constant owning of Laker s.

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    I guarantee you that Bill Russell would have had DPOY ON LOCK over Chamberlain


    If there was ONE thing Bill was about, it was playing defense.

    LOL at anyone thinking Wilt the scoring machine would have edged him out

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    He's actually tied with Wilt at 30.1
    I swear to god I hate those 2 wizard years. He should have never come back as a 40 year old man.

    MJ retired with a Bulls PPG average of like 31 or 32. something.

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    I guarantee you that Bill Russell would have had DPOY ON LOCK over Chamberlain


    If there was ONE thing Bill was about, it was playing defense.

    LOL at anyone thinking Wilt the scoring machine would have edged him out
    MiamiHeat, you just got owned and got your ass handed to you a few minutes ago. I can't believe you have the nerve to post again and act like nothing happened. LOL!!!

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    MiamiHeat, you just got owned and got your ass handed to you a few minutes ago. I can't believe you have the nerve to post again and act like nothing happened. LOL!!!
    How?

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    I swear to god I hate those 2 wizard years. He should have never come back as a 40 year old man.

    MJ retired with a Bulls PPG average of like 31 or 32. something.
    So its the Wizard years that make you a liar. I see.

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    How? LOL. This is how.

    Bull , Wilt is a center so it's obvious he will have more rebounds and blocks, and higher FG%. HOWEVER

    Wilt = 7 consecutive scoring les
    Jordan = 7 consecutive scoring les

    Jordan = 10 scoring les, most in NBA history
    Jordan = Highest career average PPG in NBA history

    Wilt = #4 on All-Time scoring list
    Jordan = #3 on All-Time scoring list

    Wilt = 1 Finals MVP, 2 championships
    Jordan = 6 Finals MVP, 6 Championships

    Wilt = 0 defensive player of the year
    Jordan = 1 Defensive player of the year (also led the league in scoring)

    Wilt = 4 league MVP's
    Jordan = 5 league mvp's (it was joked he should have had more, but everyone was tired of voting for him)


    again, go argue with NBA.com

    They say Jordan is the GOAT.

    Go suck some , you fail at life. You can't change facts to prop up Kobe.
    Talk about changing facts. Do some research before posting yours or at the very least qualify them. You just toss them out as if they are fact. \

    - the All-Defensive Team award was established in the 1968-69 season. Chamberlain and Russell would have been there many, many times.

    - The Finals MVP award was established for the 1968-69 NBA Finals, It was Russell's final season.

    - Steals and blocks: These stats weren't officially recorded until the 1974 season, Russell and Chamberlain could have lead the league in blocks many times, and Abdul-Jabbar surely would have been at the top of the blocks category a couple of times more than the 4 times he was.

    - Defensive Player of the Year: this award wasn't issued until the 1983 season, It's safe to say that Bill Russell would have won quite a few of these, and Chamberlain probably would have won it in 1972 and 1973.

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    I believe that post was for Miami.


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