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    Because you have no real professional experience

    Do you know this?

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    Can anybody tell me why I'm supposed to be outraged and upset at Arenas?
    If Arenas committed a crime inside an NBA arena, how do you figure Stern is being a ?

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    Being a well paid star of the NBA he thus hurts the image of the NBA. Look at what Tiger Wood's sponsors did after his drama and that was legal.

    Not one single PGA sponsor threatened to stop though. Those were all personal sponsors. The PGA would never suspend Tiger Woods because it knows how much money that man brings in.

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    Why are you outraged and upset at Stern over this issue?
    I'm not. I just want to know how anybody can make the case that this was a rational decision motivated by long-term concerns over the marketing viability of the league and not a fit of pique directed at Arenas because he was behaving insensitively to what most deem a serious issue?

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    I like the "I couldn't do that at my job" lines of arguments. I'm pretty sure at your job, you labor under at will employment and can be escorted out of the building for looking at your boss cross-eyed. Arenas has a guaranteed contract that will be highly difficult to void without a huge legal fight. In addition, there are all sorts of things that go on in NBA locker rooms and on chartered flights that would never fly in a white-collar working environment.

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    This is some good old fashioned arguing.

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    I'm not. I just want to know how anybody can make the case that this was a rational decision motivated by long-term concerns over the marketing viability of the league and not a fit of pique directed at Arenas because he was behaving insensitively to what most deem a serious issue?
    Arenas committed a crime in an NBA arena. I don't see how a commissioner of any league would or should tolerate such behavior.

    I wonder what your view on unloaded weapons at school are.

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    Arenas shouldn't be suspended for making a joke. Arenas has every god given right to make jokes about his life, he's not harming anyone else. Last I checked, Crittenton is still warming the bench like his good ol' self, Arenas hasn't shot anybody, and no one should be offended by the jokes Arenas is making about himself. NBA players don't sign up to be role models, they sign up to be basketball players. If a kid finds his parent's gun and plays with it because he heard Arenas has a gun, it's not Gilbert's fault, it's the kid's parents fault.
    DOK

    They don't sign up to be role models? No...but they are PAID to be. Just because they don't want to doesn't mean ...they ARE. I don't want to be at my job at 6 am 5 days a week...but that's what I get paid to do. Its in ym job description...and a role model is in any NBA players. Thats why they getting paid millions brah

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    i like the "i couldn't do that at my job" lines of arguments. I'm pretty sure at your job, you labor under at will employment and can be escorted out of the building for looking at your boss cross-eyed. Arenas has a guaranteed contract that will be highly difficult to void without a huge legal fight. In addition, there are all sorts of things that go on in nba locker rooms and on chartered flights that would never fly in a white-collar working environment.
    bring a gun to work! you thickheaded ign mavs fan

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    The real question is did Washington try and swindle the Rockets by offering Arenas in a trade knowing he was going to face legal issues?

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    There are also plenty of jobs where having a gun would be allowed. I don't think a cab driver in New York would be suspended if his employer found out he kept a gun in his cab.

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    Or a police officer.

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    Whoa

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    Its in ym job description...and a role model is in any NBA players

    Is it? Does it say something about being a role model in their contract?

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    In addition, there are all sorts of things that go on in NBA locker rooms and on chartered flights that would never fly in a white-collar working environment.
    like what?

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    I'm not. I just want to know how anybody can make the case that this was a rational decision motivated by long-term concerns over the marketing viability of the league and not a fit of pique directed at Arenas because he was behaving insensitively to what most deem a serious issue?
    "The possession of firearms by an NBA player in an NBA arena is a matter of the utmost concern to us."
    The NBA is all about sponsors and TV deals. Not many companies want to jump on board with a brand that condones players bringing guns into a locker room and are careless enough to use them how Arenas did.

    The NBA has been trying to separate itself from a "street" culture. The out-of-uniform dress code, the length of uniform shorts...this pretty much falls in line with that.

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    gambling apparently.

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    No worse than the NFL commish.

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    There are also plenty of jobs where having a gun would be allowed. I don't think a cab driver in New York would be suspended if his employer found out he kept a gun in his cab.
    Why does an NBA player need a gun in a locker room?

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    Arenas committed a crime in an NBA arena. I don't see how a commissioner of any league would or should tolerate such behavior.
    Allegedly. Why couldn't Stern wait until the investigation was complete before taking disciplinary measures? Kobe was allegedly anally raped a Colorado coed and faced no punitive measures while that legal case played itself out. What commissioner of any league would tolerate such alleged behavior?

    Arenas' story is that he brought the guns to the arena to give to team security and get them out of the house. I don't really buy that story, but it is still possible that no charges would be filed. Stern couldn't wait for it because he is a thin-skinned prick who thought he was being taunted by Arenas.

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    bring a gun to work! you thickheaded ign mavs fan
    Thickheaded? That paragraph went completely over your head, ya know it? Did you even read it? Are you still mad that I'm using a picture of you about to lick butthole while your granny watches as my sig?

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    it's pretty clear gambling doesn't fly with Stern.

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    There are also plenty of jobs where having a gun would be allowed. I don't think a cab driver in New York would be suspended if his employer found out he kept a gun in his cab.
    DOK - What the does this have to do with it?

    Arena isn't a NYC Cab driver. He is a NBA player.

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    DOK

    They don't sign up to be role models? No...but they are PAID to be.
    NBA players aren't paid to be role models. I hate when people say that. They are paid to play basketball. They are paid by the their respective teams to ing win. David Robinson wasn't paid to be a great guy and a great role model...he did it because he wanted to. He did it because that's just the kind of guy he is. If wally szczerbiak doesn't want to give some kid a high five and tell him to go to college, then he doesn't have to. That's not part of his contract.

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    Probably, but I want to know why that necessitates his suspension.
    Because it violated rules, laws, and he acted like an asshat about it. Whats hard to understand?

    No, it's not. The NBA retains the right to suspend players for whatever reason it deems fight, not for nebulous "be a role model for the children" ephemera.
    What the do you think "NBA Cares" is for then? All the required community service hours, etc? Its there to boost the image of the NBA and its players; this league has been fighting its thug image for years.

    And no, the NBA cannot suspend a player for "any reason".

    I work in a corporate environment and have plenty of experience with how and why corporations do what they do. You are the idiot if you think Arenas playing in the NBA for millions is analogous to some corporate worker drone sitting in a cube.
    Doesn't seem like you have any experience at all especially after that you wrote. The NBA is a huge and professional corporation that treats its players as such. Talk publicly about your company like Dwight Howard does in his blogs or criticize about the refs openly and you're going to suffer consequences. You're right that its not completely identical (you get a gold star for that one) since a Microsoft employee would likely just get fired instantly for bringing guns to the workplace as a joke.

    And what do you base that on, Kreskin? Where did you develop this amazing ability to discern the lifestyles and backgrounds of people you encounter over the internet?
    From what you write and trying to rationalize or justify how Stern's actions are not "right".

    Who said I don't have a problem with that? If you think an NBA locker room equates to a corporate IT department, mechanic's shop or GAP store at the mail, I think you're the one who can't separate the real world from fantasy.
    Nope thats gotta be the guy with thousands of posts under his name. Do what Arenas did in any other sport of profession including ones with firearms and he'd be out of luck.

    Stern can do what he wants. What I want to know is why this was necessary while an investigation took place and was pending. Because it seems to me that the suspension is not about "protecting the league" since no sponsors were clamoring for Arena's suspension, but Stern feeling like Arenas was mocking him personally with his antics in Philly last night. Stern is a thin-skinned prick and he proved it today.
    Its about setting the example for historically stupid and inexcusable acts that Arenas has made for himself and the league. There's more than just sponsors when it comes to "protecting the league". By allowing well paid members of an organization to openly criticize and be an asshat about very serious situations lessens the strength of the brand and organization.

    You seem to either not like Stern or not like punishing asshats for breaking rules and laws.

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