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he'll be happy soon
cuz barry's living through the best postseason of his career...he'll stay hot now, i can feel it
I don't think that Whottt will be happy until Brenttt Barry is playing 48 minutes a game.
he'll be happy soon
cuz barry's living through the best postseason of his career...he'll stay hot now, i can feel it
TimVP, that makes no sense...if all I wanted was Barry to get more minutes then why wouldn't I be in favor of him starting?
If you look closely you will see there is no clear trend of Barry playing better off the bench or starting...
He's lead the team in scoring 3 times this season...all of those games he was on the bench.
What will make me happy is when Barry handles the ball when our offense is going into the crapper with TO's and sloppy play and we are blowing a lead. Is it really hard to see how skilled he is in that area? He doesn't do that. He doesn't have that problem. Yet Pop has refused to let him handle the ball in those situations when he is the least TO prone guy on the team...and he also shoots better when he is doing that.
But if you look real closely tonight...Manu was the true backup PG...which is very similar to what I have wanted to do all season with Barry.
Anyway...we're still in a huge hole and I still don't think we're gonna win this series. I don't think it matters whether Barry plays off the bench or starts as for whether or not he plays well. But maybe tonight was an indication that he is adjusting to having a big...maybe he will shoot that 70% we were all expecting.
whottt is a bandwagon fan?
Sad.
GAY MOVE, POP...REALLY GAY...
Still defending the decision making in the 4th of game 1 that probably cost us HCA?
Still refusing to admit the gravity of the situation we will face in Denver because of a lame duck performance in game 1?
I think the Spurs are the better team and the more talented team...but whatever edge they have is going to be lessened playing in the mile high city.
It's not about the Spurs...it's about Pop's stubborness.
whottt you think we're going to lose this series wtf
Okay then if the Spurs move on beyond this series, you might as well return your Spurs fandom card.
David Robinson is ashamed of you. You're a sellout. You jumped ship. You don't believe.
Disgrace.
Romain Sato would never agree with this
Hogwash.
Manu will probably end up playing the same amount of minutes off the bench as he would starting, so why is it such a big deal?
I swear some people would prefer the team to lose and Manu play 48 minutes than have the team win and Manu play 30 minutes.
Romain Sato is unemployed.
When you are arguing with Whottt and you make him respond with a one word answer, you know you've won.
Victory.
At least he has a college education.
It's seems that everybody is saying: blowout + Manu from the bench --> blowout because Manu from the bench. That's yet to be seen.
How cool is to be a SG for the Spurs? All you have to do is suck for long enough and you're gonna get your starting job over Manu.
I'm all for winning and if this move by Pop works so be it, as long as Manu gets all of his minutes. But in the future it would be nice to stop signing confidence challenged players.
And please stop saying that starting is not important because Manu would've never been an All Star if he wasn't a starter.
LOL!
TimVP...if not having faith in the coach makes you a bandwagon fan then so be it...
In that case I've been a bandwagon fan since about 1986 when Bob(suckass)Weiss was the headcoach...because I wanted his ass fired from the get go.
While I owe Bob a debt of gra ude for sucking bad enough for us to get Drob...I still think he sucked ass and had no faith in him.
But personally I don't see how it's any different than having a lack of faith in a player...like oh say...Brent Barry or Rasho.
I want the Spurs to win just as much as the "believers" do, I feel the pain of losses just as much though I am an infidel...and I watch regardless of what I think will happen. Hmmm I might even argue that being devoted when you don't think your team will win is an indication of being even more of a diehard fan.
But believe...in Pop's subs utions...you ask too much.
I don't have faith in Pop's offensive mind..other than it offends me...if that makes me a bandwgon fan then so be it. But I don't believe...I'll believe after we win the le with the most talented team in Spurs history. It's time to prove it.
I'm not in favor of this move but...It's seems that everybody is saying: blowout + Manu from the bench --> blowout because Manu from the bench. That's yet to be seen.
How cool is to be a SG for the Spurs? All you have to do is suck for long enough and you're gonna get your starting job over Manu.
I'm all for winning and if this move by Pop works so be it, as long as Manu gets all of his minutes. But in the future it would be nice to stop signing confidence challenged players.
And please stop saying that starting is not important because Manu would've never been an All Star if he wasn't a starter.
Who cares about the AS game?
1.The AS game selection has been a joke for a long time. Yao started ahead of Shaq as a rookie...Guys don't even play half the season and get voted in. Most of the guys that make it don't even want to play it...like Duncan.
2.Manu being on the bench in no way limits him from making the AS game. Bench players have made the All Star Game before...
3.I think Manu has surpassed Duncan as Pop's favorite player on the team. You can tell the tremendous amount of respect Pop has for Manu when he talks. You can tell how much Manu's teamates respect him. If anything this move makes them respect him even more.
Just like tonight...All Doug Collins did on the broadcast was rave about how impressed he was with Manu's selflessness...
No one thinks Brent Barry is a better player than Manu....and if they do because of this move then they are as big of morons as the people that thought Hedo>Manu because of it.
Look at how Manu handled it...like a winner...and he's gained more respect because of it...all it shows is that you can play Manu anywhere and he will be successful...not all players can do that.
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"I was disappointed last year, but then I was still a little doubtful about my career," Ginobili said. "I didn't know if I belonged here that much.
"This year, I know who I am. I know the team respects me. I know Pop does, too. And I know it's good for the team, so it's no big deal."
"I said if you feel it's going to help us, I'm ready to do it," Ginobili said. "We all have only one goal. That's winning the championship."
He's got a great heart and an even better at ude. That can really influence his teammates when they see unselfishness in action.
Great at ude, totally the opposite of so many players in this league... stick to Spurs' mentality. And he will be unstoppable by opponents from the bench.
Is there any stats comparing his production as a starter & a sub?
I sooo love him!He's got such a good heart in him and such a nice at ude.
Maybe some of the Argentines should read his quotes instead of complaining so much.
I thought you bashed me when I suggested the move?I sooo love him!
Maybe some of the Argentines should read his quotes instead of complaining so much.
Oh well.
I think the sub moves were great. It worked for this game and maybe they should try it out for the next game. I liked it when Brent was running the point. Yesterday I said that Pop actually needs to coach this 1st series and he did an excellent job yesterday. Spurs played excellent team ball and hopefully they can continue.
I'm not saying the move didn't come out alright, it obviously did, but don't give me the "this is not demotion" 'cause it clearly is. Remember last year when Hedo got into the starting lineup it took manu 10/15 games to figure out his bench role again and I remember him saying he was depressed about it. I'm all for winning the championship and if manu has to stay cleaning the floor at the training facility then so be it, but tell me what's going to happen in the next round, or next year? What's going to happen when Devine is back?
He may be cool with this now, as it worked out fine but you just can't with the guy every time you need to change something. He is the ing scape goat of this team.
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