Reply With Quote
Why is everybody yelling!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Come on, we've all seen the games...it isnt about him not having his legs under him. Everything about his shot just looks bad, his form and everything. The shots arent even close most of the time. I know Im not the only one that cringes when he shoots a jump shot, dude has been shooting 30% on FGs outside the paint. Horrible.
I agree that Amare isnt a franchise player but honestly neither is Parker, not even close actually. Im morso talking about getting Amare/Bosh to win now rather than to build around them once TD leaves.
To think that it is injuries and nothing but would be naive. There are other ways to contribute if he doesnt have his explosiveness, there are other aspects of the game in which he can be effective. He hasnt done that. Manu has gone through the same thing this season and has adjusted his game and contributed in other ways.
Why is everybody yelling!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Even if you consider his old 20 points, his guaranteed $15 million takes the Suns out of the picture for any of the big 2010 agents.
So do you take a chance at RJ going back to 20 ppg or you take an expiring like Manu, see how he does before you decide and still have a chance to pick up a Chris Bosh?
And you gained a young guard in Hill or a promising big man in Splitter.
I think the best case scenario is RJ and Splitter. Splitter is not guaranteed to come and if Amare walks... then were left with nothing. I think we need to keep either Blair or Splitter... at this point I choose Blair cause we actually have him signed for 2+ seasons where as Tiago may never come.
Can't see the Spurs with a max-type player like Amare and RJ together--way too
much money for Holt. RJ would have to be a part of the deal.
BTW, how much would the Spurs be under the cap for this summer
if Amare signs somewhere else?
Without getting rid of RJ as part of the deal, the Spurs won't have much (if any cap room) since they're already sitting close to the cap without a Manu re-signing.
Due to RJ's contract next year (or Tony's or Tim's), the Spurs don't have many choices outside of re-signing Manu with his Bird rights or trying to upgrade through trading him.
If the Spurs don't trade or re-sign Manu and he just leaves, the Spurs are really screwed for the 2010/2011 season (although RJ then becomes an expiring).
Last edited by Allanon; 01-27-2010 at 03:11 AM.
do it for RJ and whoever, not for Manu IMO.
completely agreeWell, from what I've read, GINOBILLI!!! is upset at the Spurs for not re-signing him. That one line "I used to think it was like a family but I realize now it's a business" stands out.
There's a very real chance that he walks over the summer and the Spurs get nothing in return for him.
So if trading Manu now nets a player like Stouds, who actually respects TimmyD, you have to consider it.
Of course, maybe the Suns are crazy enough to take RJ? They would need a replacement Center for their small ball after all.
A'Ma'Re'e'ee would complete the all-offense-No-Defense team Pop has been striving to attain for the last 2-3 years.
ugh don't do this Spurs! There will be no WCF meeting with the Nuggets if the Spurs do this. Amare is the epitomy of everything that the Spurs are against
The way it's lookin, they may just meet in the 1st round...
First, it's a damn great news that Spurs FO is still looking at making a major move. Spurs could be better than what they are with more chemistry and health but it's not enough to put them back in the true contender category. A trade will be needed and it's great that Spurs FO hasn't given up on the idea to improve the team.
Now, I don't like the idea of a trade for Stoudamire because of his lack of commitment to play defense. If he could change that, he woudl be an awesome player to pair with Duncan. Sadly, I doubt that playing more defense is one of his priority.
Spurs also have to decide what to do with Ginobili now because it will be too late after the trade deadline. It will really sucks if Ginobili left the team as a FA this summer because Spurs won't have a plan B. There are only 2 good options with Manu:
- Trading him before the trade deadline.
- Keeping him and re-signing him until 2012 or 2013.
Manu has been quite bad this year and his interview show that he likely isn't ready to sign for less money to stay in SA. I still think Spurs keeping Manu is by far the most likely solution but a trade isn't a that crazy option.
Could they technically cut Manu and let him become a free agent?
Why would the Suns do this? I'll tell you why, just to piss the Lakers off. Amare and Duncan with Parker, Manu and McDyess would be good enough to give the Lakers a potential nightmare. I know they are somewhat rivals, but to trade Amare to the Spurs would be a classy move to a player that has been with their team for many years. Ultimately superstar players can have a say in where they land, Amare probably wouldn't mind playing with Tim. Will the Suns do it, I don't know, something tells me probably not, but the Spurs front office clearly sees they have to make a move. RJ, Splitter would do it.
are you smoking crack? manu is one of only 3-4 players out there who has been playing with pure heart and relentless drive
If we can get him with RJ+Dyess and some sweeteners then I'm ok with that. Otherwise I will be pissed because that will involve Manu.
Bruno i always read your posts carefully cuz they make sense most of the time, but if you think manu has been playing horribly this season you are on some gooooooood
No way the Spurs and Nuggets would meet, we simply suck this year. I think I just have to cheer on the Nuggets when you guys face LA in WCF
I'd trade Jefferson for Amare but only because it gets the Spurs out of Jefferson's final year (assuming Amare opts out). In fact if the Spurs can get anything for Jefferson they should probably do it. What a fiasco that has been.
I wouldn't trade Manu or Hill, though. Manu has been slower after the injuries, but he still plays harder than everyone except Duncan. I couldn't stand trading him for a soft, no defense player like Amare. Hill is still developing and will be a good player in the future; Spurs would regret trading him a year or two from now (especially to a conference rival like Phoenix).
Add Amare to the Spurs and the team would end up crumbling with more chemistry problems. Amare isn't necessarily the smartest tool in the shed a far as basketball IQ goes. The way I see it, the Spurs can make this trade and it's still not enough to put them over the Lakers. not even Dallas or Denver
Go if------ Jefferson, Dice for Amare
No if-----Manu, Hill, Blair for Amare
Thanks.Bruno i always read your posts carefully cuz they make sense most of the time, but if you think manu has been playing horribly this season you are on some gooooooood
My bad, Manu has been awesome this year. He has even made some top10 list: http://blogs.hoopshype.com/blogs/johnson/
I thought we needed to play harder especially on D so I don't really understand how Amare would help fix that. Our main players except TD (finger pointed at Tony and Manu) need to be more consistent and RJ has to wake the F up and realize his carreer is on the line.
spurs fans love to insult stoudemire's intelligence but forget that he historically owns the spurs. remember that one time where he went like 42pts, 16reb, and 4blks against the spurs in the playoffs?
but i would not make this move if it involves giving up manu + young talent. if it gets rid of jefferson, then yes but if the spurs have to give up manu, it would have to be for a pretty good two way player.
unbelievable. simply unf-ingbelievable.
this may be my first post, but only because i am now so disgusted that i can no longer stomach my own silence.
i have loved the spurs more than anything else in the world (just ask my girlfriend), for as long as i can remember, but now it seems that they are destroying everything they have stood for.
i sincerely believe that our success has come because of patience, hard work, discipline, LOYALTY, and the restraint to NOT act like the GD lakers and just buy up big names to try to win now. i understand that we owe timmy more than we can ever repay, but not at the expense of the kind of philosophy that he has supported , and to some extent been the inspiration for, all these wonderful years.
if manu felt (no pun intended) spurned by the fact that the front office wasn't willing to offer an extension when he was injured, it's only because he had every right to feel that way. who can blame him? he has laid his entire heart and soul into every game he's ever played for us, and been the fuel AND fire that got us through countless tough calls in crunch time. he, and i, thought that actually meant something to the organization and fans. our bad, i guess.
to read that we would even consider trading him for the likes of amare - oops, i mean amar'e - made my stomach turn. and now, for someone who claims to be a spurs fan to ask if we could "technically cut him"?!?!?!?
what has become of us...
There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)
Posting Permissions
