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    Well, we'll see when he actually starts taking threes in the NBA.
    Indeed.

    But in the meantime . . .



    Get Lifted . . .

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    I don't think I ever called for Malik to not play.

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    Never said you did; you've actually been one of the posters that's been a proponent of his for a while IIRC.

    It's all in fun, Chump. (or more appropriately )

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    He has the makings of the types of role players the spurs look for and the ones that help you win.

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    Yup, and the same could be said for Hill and Blair; they bring a toughness, character and intelligence on the court, that can only bode well.

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    Really makes one wonder why they STILL have this deficiency after so many years. The point of irritation for me is that they had plenty of time to address this prior to Bowen leaving the scene. I know they missed on Batum, but they still should've addressed this need via the draft.

    Someone mentioned Paul George earlier. Haven't see him on TV, but researched his measurables. Good looking prospect.
    Yea the stupid Spurs FO should of found a starting caliber SF with of of their late 1st round picks or 2nd round picks a long time ago. I mean picking so late in the 1st round there are so many talented NBA players to choose from, why can't Pop and RC just close their eyes and pick from a large pool of NBA talent found in the late 1st round, or 2nd round?

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    Pop should find great players, then mold the system to them, not search for players who look like they should fit into a system that you've created for others.
    Righttttttt. Why can't Pop just go find these "great players" and put them into his system and BOOM,PRESTO, the Spurs can start a new Dynasty for the new decade. Damn Pop is so stubborn, just do it Pop! Cmon Pop theres "greatplayers" all over the place just waiting for you or RC to give em a call.

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    The past couple games have felt like a good dream, Malik Getting good minutes. Then I wake up to the real nightmare that RJ, Bogans and RMJ's suckiness overshadows any goodness that comes with Hairstons getting minutes.

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    Youth movement - Blair/Hill/Hairston.

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    Righttttttt. Why can't Pop just go find these "great players" and put them into his system and BOOM,PRESTO, the Spurs can start a new Dynasty for the new decade. Damn Pop is so stubborn, just do it Pop! Cmon Pop theres "greatplayers" all over the place just waiting for you or RC to give em a call.
    Quality condescension jjktkk (TPark could learn a thing or two), but how would you pronounce 'Righttttttt'?

    With that meany T's, I find myself being reminded of Lost's smoke monster . . .

    Am I doing it wrong?

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    Quality condescension jjktkk (TPark could learn a thing or two), but how would you pronounce 'Righttttttt'?

    With that meany T's, I find myself being reminded of Lost's smoke monster . . .

    Am I doing it wrong?
    Some quality thread maintenance by the OP going on here.

    This thread has a future. Let's hope Malik does as well.

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    If he's as good as everyone says he is at them, why take no threes ever?

    Please explain.
    because we already have 3-point chuckers...nobody ever wins by living and dying with the 3...the team who scores in the paint wins. id rather him attack the basket, which he can do, every single time instead of chucking a 3.

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    signing up @ 4:20

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    signing up @ 4:20
    (on the avatar as well)

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    agree on this. (assuming Manu will be part of the team next season)
    but I don't like the mentioned options that much. ok, if McGuire signs for the minimum, it's worth the try.
    Dorell? he turns 25 this year and despite 5 years of NBA experience he still looks to often like a rookie. and can't shoot. I fear he just doesn't get it. open question: the Spurs possibilities are limited anyhow, so what would it take to get Dorell? would he sign for the LLE? if not and assuming we spend the MLE on Splitter we are not a candidate.

    (just in case: we can't sign Splitter and so the MLE is available for other players, wouldn't we prefer Travis Outlaw over Dorell Wright?)

    I don't think Julian Wright is available in a trade unless it's for a TE (or a unguaranteed contract) and a pick.
    (which we can't offer). Hornets will still be in cost dumping mode, only this scenario helps them.

    as long as we can't do a somehow miraculous trade of RJ, the options for adding a SF this summer are very limited, especially with the draft not really looking deep there. (most available are in fact combos, who will fail big time in the NBA).

    ah, time to make a misplaced claim: Landry Fields (my man for our 2nd rounder) would be a very nice complimentary player to Malik.
    I don't like any of the mentioned options either, I'm just throwing out inexpensive options who possess the physical tools the Spurs need in an SF.

    Outlaw's a talent. He's a good sixth man/scorer and can play SF and PF, but he doesn't defend (which is the Spurs primary need in an SF or combo forward) and he has an inflated sense of self worth. I don't think he'd fit in with the Spurs vaunted culture.

    The Hornets are cheap and Wright hasn't worked out their. I'm not saying I'm enamored with him, but I do think he's attainable, though like you say, not for what the Spurs have to offer (if they liked him enough, I'm sure they could find a third team to satisfy the Hornets needs and facilitate the trade).

    I haven't really delved into too many names yet likely to be available around the Spurs pick, but a guy I like for the second round is Andy Rautins. He reminds me of Barry somewhat in that he's a former players son, heady, good passer, solid ball handler and an absolute light's out shooter. I could see him filling the Mason role next season: perimeter shooter off the bench/3rd PG. I see him more as a SG than a PG in the NBA. He is undersized and not very athletic, but he can play.

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    because we already have 3-point chuckers...nobody ever wins by living and dying with the 3...the team who scores in the paint wins. id rather him attack the basket, which he can do, every single time instead of chucking a 3.
    But if that's all he does, teams will fairly easily find ways to defend it, like Kevin Kruger did with Darius Washington.

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    Yea the stupid Spurs FO should of found a starting caliber SF with of of their late 1st round picks or 2nd round picks a long time ago. I mean picking so late in the 1st round there are so many talented NBA players to choose from, why can't Pop and RC just close their eyes and pick from a large pool of NBA talent found in the late 1st round, or 2nd round?
    Yeah the Spurs never have any success picking so late in the round. Good thing for them they were fortunate enough to get both Parker and Manu in the NBA Draft Lottery.

    The bull excuses and various states of denial from the Popsucker crowd never ends.

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    Whether it's evoking good or bad emotion ...

    I'm not sure there's a better smiley at doing it than the

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    This is a poorly constructed roster. They lack depth at point guard and center and they still don't have anyone who can guard long three's/mobile four's. The Spurs could take a flier on a Wright (Dorell), McGuire or probably even Wright (Julian, though he is under contract for next season, unlike the other two), but hopefully they can do better.
    Well, it looks like one option will be off the table . . .

    Dorell Wright arrested for DUI
    By Kurt Helin

    Dorell Wright was arrested for a DUI early Thursday morning, the second Heat player with a traffic related arrest in the last two weeks. From the Miami Herald:

    According to the arrest report, Wright, 24, was stopped at 3:37 a.m. in his 2005 Bentley near the intersection of Alton Road and 12th Street. Officers witnessed Wright driving erratically and, upon approaching the vehicle, observed ``red and watery eyes, order of an alcoholic beverage on his breath and low and slurred speech.''

    Wright could not find his proof of insurance, knew he was driving on a suspended license and refused to submit to a sobriety test, according to the affidavit. Wright also was accused of driving 52 mph in a 25 mph zone.


    Wright was booked, paid bail and was released at 10 a.m. Thursday.

    Wright's Heat teammate Carlos Arroyo was arrested back on Feb. 24 for impeding traffic (driving too slow) then resisting arrest.

    Wright likely serve a suspension handed down by the league, the going rate seems to be two games for a DUI. When that suspension come sdown remains to be seen.

    Wright has been a solid contributor off the bench for the Heat, playing about 20 minutes a night and scoring six.

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    OTOH, he'll probably be available for cheap after this incident..but ya, I would agree that the Spurs would shy away from such a player..

    After watching some of Wright lately though, I don't think he's ever going to become a guy that you can rely on for consistent defense..he doesn't have the mentality to work like that..

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    Seems fitting for this thread.

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    Good. I was just throwing Wright out there as an example of a player who possesses the physical tools the Spurs need in an SF, but he's not nearly good enough to fill their need as a wing stopper.

    McGuire, as me and Blackjack have talked about at length, I don't see him as being the type of personality the Spurs look for. He's an immature goof from everything I know about him and he can't shoot worth a lick.

    Wright (Julian) is under contract for next season, can't shoot and supposedly has trouble remembering plays. Again, doesn't exactly exude the types of qualities the Spurs look for, particularly in players who fill this role.

    Really, all three of these guys can probably be ruled out now, but they are all examples of the type of player (physically/athletically, at least) that the Spurs need at SF. Honestly, it's going to be difficult to obtain the type the Spurs need, so we're probably going to see them take a run at Bell and if they fail to sign him, I wouldn't be surprised if Bogans is re-signed or if a comparable player is brought in.

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    I'm obviously higher on McGuire than, well ... mostly anybody. But, be that as it may, I'm more a fan of him as a talent and not so much as being an ideal fit for the Spurs (skill set-wise; I'm not as worried about the personality).

    Barring an RJ trade during the offseason (highly unlikely), I think you're pretty much on the money with Bell and Bogans. It just seems to be the most logical and probable outcome given the options and type of moves the Spurs have made in the past.

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    Yeah the Spurs never have any success picking so late in the round. Good thing for them they were fortunate enough to get both Parker and Manu in the NBA Draft Lottery.

    The bull excuses and various states of denial from the Popsucker crowd never ends.
    Senor Tool, are you hitting the pipe again? By your ignorant reply, you seem to think every year the Spurs should be able to find a NBA player in the later rounds. Its really not that easy. Maybe RC and the scouting department make it seem so.

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    I'm obviously higher on McGuire than, well ... mostly anybody. But, be that as it may, I'm more a fan of him as a talent and not so much as being an ideal fit for the Spurs (skill set-wise; I'm not as worried about the personality).

    Barring an RJ trade during the offseason (highly unlikely), I think you're pretty much on the money with Bell and Bogans. It just seems to be the most logical and probable outcome given the options and type of moves the Spurs have made in the past.
    As I've said before, it's not ideal, but if the Spurs sign Bell and can bring over Splitter, I'd be fairly pleased. Ideally, I'd like them to move Jefferson, acquire a different type of player to fill the wing stopper role than Bell, etc., but I also think they'll be some value in bringing back the vast majority of the roster rather than undergoing wholesale changes for the second consecutive off season.

    It may not show in the stats, but Jefferson and McDyess should be better from day one next season, just based on being more comfortable. Bell would probably be a seamless fit. He's an intelligent player and his role would be straightforward. That leaves Splitter as the wild card. If he can make a Ginobili '03 type impact, that would be a significant boost to this team. I'm not calling him Ginobili's equal as a player, but just think of what he brought to that '03 team that they didn't have in '01 or '02. Splitter, theoretically could help Duncan (and the team in general) a lot.

    I assume these eight will return: Duncan, Ginobili, Parker, Hill, McDyess, Jefferson, Blair and Hairston. Add the aforementioned two to those eight and there's the rotation. Is that a championship caliber team? Health permitting, on paper they should have a chance, but that was also the thinking going into this season. Like I touched on though, I think next season will be a smoother transition.

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