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LOL - This thread is a classic example of why Chump gets my top 3 MVP vote.
It's clear you don't know what that term means either.
Do you know who Tim Duncan and Manu Ginobili are, coach?
If you knew, you would know why this was a throwaway game.
LOL - This thread is a classic example of why Chump gets my top 3 MVP vote.
So if I set up simple straw men and beat the out of them I'll be everyone's favorite poster too whoopeee!!!
Looks like you found something new to whine about.So if I set up simple straw men and beat the out of them I'll be everyone's favorite poster too whoopeee!!!
The fact remains: Tim Duncan and Manu Ginobili are indeed basketball players for the San Antonio Spurs. Their exclusion from this last game is very strong evidence that it was a throwaway game.
Your evidence that it was not? Pop yelled.
Been a Spurs fan long? Pop always screws with the starting lineup for a good part of the season. This year the tinkering went on longer than usual. Bonner, Finley, and Parker missed big chunks of the season with injuries, and Pop wants to limit Duncan's minutes to keep him health for the playoffs. Bogans isn't exactly an offensive powerhouse. Somebody had to get some minutes. Letting an experienced player like Mason try and shoot his way out of his slump isn't exactly a radical idea.
Jefferson performed a lot better with Manu on the floor. Putting Mason in with different groups kinda makes sense, too, don't you think? And, yeah, some players perform better when they start. Teams have a limited number of assets. Pop tried to get the most value out of one of them. To his credit, he didn't take Mason's trade request personally. Some coaches would have dumped him on the bench and forgot about him - but not the good coaches.
"Pop yelled."
Understatment of the year. Pop was stamping around all game long agitated. Seemed like he had something shoved up his ass that kept him from sitting down. Every time out or intermission he was meeting somebody at mid court and getting in their grill. He was ripping guys new assholes left and right.
Call me crazy but it sure looked like he was trying to win this "throwaway" game to me.
I can certainly understand his being upset by the fact Hill was injured by a photographer.
And, by not playing Tim Duncan and Manu Ginobili, would you say the Spurs had a better or worse chance of winning the game?
These are your choices, coach.
a) Better
b) Worse
Please answer.
has Mason ever encountered a shot he doesn't like?
Of course he tried to win it, you pinhead. Short of that, he wanted his reserves to play smart ball against the Mavs. I'm just guessing, but it may have had something to do with facing them in the first round?
The league is already concerned about teams resting players in "throw-away" games. There was a story yesterday that they are going to look at it in the offseason. I'm pretty sure it would have looked bad if he would have spent the game playing Tetris on his Iphone.
Agreed. Pop did everything he could to win this game....
....except play his two best players....
Been a spurs fan since 1997 or thereabouts. And I realize Pop like to tinker, even late into a season.
But tinkering just for the sake of tinkering is what it seems like Pop did last night. Garret Temple had been getting starts in place of Hill for awhile (and doing fine I might add), so why all of a sudden change things up now? Roger can shoot himself out of his slump from the bench just fine. Furthurmore, him and Parker showed some nice chemistry together in the wolves' game. Why not try to build on that? Doesn't that make more sense?
Flip-flopping roles this late in the season just for the sake of doing so doesn't build good chemistry or help the team.
"If you're trying to build team chemistry in the 82nd game, you're ed."
- Sun Tzu
That's not the impression I was getting from Chumpdumper.. if you followed the argument for going on 3 pages now, it appeared he was implying/ suggesting Pop didn't care to win the game and other than yelling once he was disinterested most of the game.
If you're going to add your 2 cents at least read the entire thread next time.
You really suck at inference.
Really.
You also suck at answering questions:I guess I'll add these:
c) Makes no difference
d) I have no idea who Tim Duncan and Manu Ginobili are
Please answer.
LOL see??
And you call me the pinhead!?
Do you?
I never called you a pinhead.And you call me the pinhead!?
I am now calling you a dumbass for saying I called you that.
Dumbass.
TJastal, isn't there some middle ground for you between the two notions - the Spurs trying to win at all costs and Spurs losing on purpose? Of course Pop wanted to win, no one has implied he didn't, it's just that he cared less about the win that about resting his two best players.It's not like he's told the team to lose on purpose, duh...
..everybody in here will be crying next year when his hand is healed and he's hitting game winners for another championship calibur team......
IMO if you don't care enough about a win to use your best players.. then the game isn't worth much to begin with. Whatever middle ground exists is shaky at best. This was kind of my point, that these "calculated risks" he likes to take have a tendency to backfire on the team. Perfect example was the raptors game and sitting out Duncan and "hoping" the spurs can coast to victory without him. That backfired in a big way when Timmy almost killed himself trying to bring the spurs back from a double digit defecit.
Same principle here, he decides to sit his two big guns and yet expects the rest of the guys to step up including Hill who was playing (apparently unbeknownst to coaching staff/trainers) on a still gimpy ankle. Not saying he wouldn't have injured it the same way if Duncan and Ginobili were playing but that is sort of the point... why is he out there to begin with if the game means so little?
Probably because Hill and the medical staff thought he was ready to keep playing especially since he seemed fine from the previous game. Same reasons why they played Parker ahead of time and to shake off rust. Not terribly hard.
I don't see Bynum or Shaq out there playing the last few meaningless games of the season shaking off rust.
Could it be they know something we don't?
For the same reason that Parker played - both coming back from injuries and needing to shake off the rust. His tweaked ankle was a misfurtunate thing, but has no relevance to the issue - like you said it could have happened with Tim and Manu playing or in practice or in his bathroom, it wasn't caused by throwing him in the game not fully healed ( I believe this is the last thing anyone could blame Pop for ).
Its not just rust (strawman ftl); its also because Hill seemed healthy enough last game and if you got the okay from him and the medical staff...should be ready to play like Tony Parker.
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