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    wow. I see.
    (didn't know about this previous contract rule either)
    so RJ could sign a contract like 5 + 6.5 + 8 + 9.5 + 11 M = 40 M ?
    (is there a comparable contract/scenario out there?)
    so, that way the Knicks could dump another 8 M from their payroll, right?
    which they could use to re sign Lee. 6 years/60 M. (he would agree I assume.)
    they would have Gallinari, Lee, RJ, Douglas, ev. Rodriguez AND still 34 M in cap space. (max for Lebron, 5 years 94 million and almost max for Bosh, 5 years/82 M)
    Knicks don't hesitate for half a second to do such a trade with the Spurs.

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    If FO does that, I will be so happy. I like Wilson Chandler as a player. However, I do not see that happening unless they are entirely sure that they can't get LeBron since LeBron and RJ plays SF. I just hope that Knicks will cast their eyes on Wade as well as Bosh and of course do this trade

    I never, EVER want to see Eddy Curry in a Spurs uni.
    Curry will just be an expiring contract that we can use as a trade bait

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    If FO does that, I will be so happy. I like Wilson Chandler as a player. However, I do not see that happening unless they are entirely sure that they can't get LeBron since LeBron and RJ plays SF. I just hope that Knicks will cast their eyes on Wade as well as Bosh and of course do this trade
    for the whole picture RJ (or the position he plays) is more or less irrelevant. if this scenario helps the Knicks to get 2 superstars AND keep Lee, they do it.
    (and RJ would become an overpayed backup for Lebron/Gallinari)

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    wow. I see.
    (didn't know about this previous contract rule either)
    so RJ could sign a contract like 5 + 6.5 + 8 + 9.5 + 11 M = 40 M ?
    (is there a comparable contract/scenario out there?)
    so, that way the Knicks could dump another 8 M from their payroll, right?
    which they could use to re sign Lee. 6 years/60 M. (he would agree I assume.)
    they would have Gallinari, Lee, RJ, Douglas, ev. Rodriguez AND still 34 M in cap space. (max for Lebron, 5 years 94 million and almost max for Bosh, 5 years/82 M)
    Knicks don't hesitate for half a second to do such a trade with the Spurs.
    Yes, you got the idea.
    I think it's "win" trade for everybody (Spurs, Knicks and RJ).

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    I find it very hard to believe that Jefferson would get another contract worth 40 mil for about four years. I don't see a team paying him that much unless Isaiah Thomas is the GM of that team. I may be wrong. There might be a team dumb enough to pay that guy 10 mil a year.

    I hope he opts out because he really doesn't fit in with the Spurs. The Spurs aren't the Suns. Thank God. I think Jefferson is a good player. Just not with the Spurs.

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    another opt out:
    Mo Evans reportedly will opt out from the last year in Atlanta. (leaves 2.5M on the table)
    not really relevant, but if the Spurs need to find a SF for cheap on the FA market to replace RJ, he might be an option.
    (Spurs might be able to offer something like 3 years/6 million from the reminder of the MLE, if Splitter signs for 3years/11 million)

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    40 millions extenson for this guy?

    Hours after Ginobili signed an extension?
    Is he comapiring himself with whom, EXACTLY?
    Ginobili?
    Seriously?

    And he is actually talking about it come playoffs time?

    I thought this guy had a very low BB IQ, but it might actually be lower outside of the court.

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    the guy loves to opt out. just ask his ex-fiancee.

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    the guy loves to opt out. just ask his ex-fiancee.
    haha

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    i pull that trade with the knicks just for 1yr rental on curry....heck we can just give him away and keep wilson chandler if his any good and start rebuilding around a younger core of players...

    parkers contract expires next seasons anyway and duncan the year after it....FO wont be hurt much in the pocket


    u guys actually think splitter will settle for a proportion of the MLE? if i were him would take the MLE if you want him to sign here.....sure he might be unproven in the nba, but he still gets better offers in europe...and the deal the spurs put on the table isnt enticing...
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    I think what a lot of people don't realize is professional athletes don't retire at 65 like most of us... That is they have to make their money now and hope it last till they are old and grey and then die (god willing). They are probably mostly only good at one thing too, basketball. To be at this level, the highest, takes lots of time and dedication. In some cases, lifelong to get this good. Exception Duncan (freak of nature, swimmer in high school). I think David Robinson started late too. Point is they probably aren't going to become tax accountants or bus drivers after their nba careers have ended. They mostly (except Bonner, heard used mass transit) have a high standard of living and most likely woundn't want to give it up. Honestly most of us woundn't want too either... The most they have to look forward too are coaching careers, nba analysts, dancing with the stars... haha.

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    I think what a lot of people don't realize is professional athletes don't retire at 65 like most of us... That is they have to make their money now and hope it last till they are old and grey and then die (god willing).
    ah yes. you did realize that the average NBA player doesn't make 4 times as much as the average working people, so that you would have a point, considering he has about 10-12 years to make his money as opposed to 40-50 years for me and you?
    NBA players make about 40 times the money.

    and did you ever consider the fact, that if you make big money in short time, you also have capital to work with, capital that if invested conservatively (and if you are not named Toine Walker) will bring you a much greater income from 35 to 65 than you could ever make by work?

    well and last, it's not forbidden for any former NBA player to work for money after their career.

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    I have not given up on RJ, the guy is still inconsistent, but he has shown signs that he wants to fit in, he didnīt complain in the whole year about having some games where he was given 3 or 4 shoots.

    I think that is commitment. And if he opts out to sign a longer contract quite on his market Value, i wonīt doubt having someone like him back if he proves usefull in the PO.

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    RJ is pissed because Manu got his moola and since Rj has been a bust in this city the fans are letting him him know his worth....which is 0!

    You want to opt out RJ? Go right along and ***** do it....

    Next thing you know be coming out of the closet.... and say "IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIMMMMMMMMMMM GGGGGGGAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYY!"

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    Depending on their longterm outlook on Nash, I could actually see the Suns offering RJ a similar deal to the one he describes in the article. Hill is most likely gone, and I think a Nash, Richardson, RJ line up gives Amare reason to consider staying. Toss in a good glue guy like Almundson in the starting 5 and that's a nice team.

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    Here is a tricky scenario:

    Somewhere between the end of Spurs season and the NBA draft:
    RJ opt out and sign a $40M/5 years extension with Spurs. Spurs then trade him to NY for Eddy Curry and Wilson Chandler.

    Why for RJ: he got his $25M extension.

    Why for Knicks: Knicks get $8M more in cap space for this summer. The cost for that is to swap Chandler for RJ and in D'Antoni system, RJ would be fine.

    Why for Spurs: Spurs lower their 2010-2011 payroll by $1.8M. With the luxury tax, they will save $3.6M. Chandler would be an upgrade on the defensive end over RJ and he could be resigned in 201 when he will be a RFA. Curry is useless but he has a nice expiring contract.
    They should put you on staff.

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    ah yes. you did realize that the average NBA player doesn't make 4 times as much as the average working people, so that you would have a point, considering he has about 10-12 years to make his money as opposed to 40-50 years for me and you?
    NBA players make about 40 times the money.

    and did you ever consider the fact, that if you make big money in short time, you also have capital to work with, capital that if invested conservatively (and if you are not named Toine Walker) will bring you a much greater income from 35 to 65 than you could ever make by work?

    well and last, it's not forbidden for any former NBA player to work for money after their career.

    yes, 40x the money and also 40x the cost. That is what i was saying. They have a high standard of living that you or I can't even comprehend. I would hate to give that up if it were me. Also conservative investment is kind of an oxymoron. Conservative investment, i.e. low risk equals lower return. High risk equals high reward. We can't understand it, because we are not in that situation. If I was a pro athlete and I hadn't made a lot of money before and I had one last chance to cash in then I would have to cash in. That's why they tell college players to turn pro, so they can guarentee the money before it too late, injury. I know, it sucks, my horns have been burnt by it a lot recently...

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    Here is a tricky scenario:

    Somewhere between the end of Spurs season and the NBA draft:
    RJ opt out and sign a $40M/5 years extension with Spurs. Spurs then trade him to NY for Eddy Curry and Wilson Chandler.

    Why for RJ: he got his $25M extension.

    Why for Knicks: Knicks get $8M more in cap space for this summer. The cost for that is to swap Chandler for RJ and in D'Antoni system, RJ would be fine.

    Why for Spurs: Spurs lower their 2010-2011 payroll by $1.8M. With the luxury tax, they will save $3.6M. Chandler would be an upgrade on the defensive end over RJ and he could be resigned in 201 when he will be a RFA. Curry is useless but he has a nice expiring contract.

    That'd be nice. Hope R.C read this

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    Who cares, we got manu!!!!!!!

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    Here is a tricky scenario:

    Somewhere between the end of Spurs season and the NBA draft:
    RJ opt out and sign a $40M/5 years extension with Spurs. Spurs then trade him to NY for Eddy Curry and Wilson Chandler.

    Why for RJ: he got his $25M extension.

    Why for Knicks: Knicks get $8M more in cap space for this summer. The cost for that is to swap Chandler for RJ and in D'Antoni system, RJ would be fine.

    Why for Spurs: Spurs lower their 2010-2011 payroll by $1.8M. With the luxury tax, they will save $3.6M. Chandler would be an upgrade on the defensive end over RJ and he could be resigned in 201 when he will be a RFA. Curry is useless but he has a nice expiring contract.
    Somebody text message this to Mr. Holt.

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    Who the is going to pay him 4/40 million dollars?

    Hes averaging 12 points and...4.5 rebounds. His three point shooting is 31%.

    Thats a MLE type of player. NOT a 10 million a year player.

    Spurs should let him opt out and dare anyone to offer more than the MLE. They wont. There is a ZERO market for RJ.

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    God some of you people love to drill every player about anything you can, I guess that’s what forums are for.

    All he said was what every player would say.
    Everyone wants him to leave next season, but the Spurs can’t move him so he’s actually given them an option he’ll opt out for ‘X’ if they want to try move him.
    Not sure if he really wants to leave but he has copped his bit of stick since being here. It’s not even so much he’s had trouble fitting in to the way the Spurs play more him & TP don’t fit together.
    He’s not doing this cos Maun did that’s just stupid to think that.
    His goal as a professional is to make the most he can in his short time. If that means giving up 15mil next year for 9-10mil a year for 4 years then so be it.

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    I don't blame RJ at all for saying that. He is correct in everything he stated. He knows this will probably be his last major contract of his career, so he wants to get more years.

    This is a smart move on his part.

    I hope that whatever he decides is a smart decision on his part.

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