Pacquiao does not need Mayweather, it's Mayweather who is afraid of Pacman otherwise he agrees to do the drug testing a day afterthey fight, not a day before.
The day after, take or leave it. Simple as that. He has no reputation to protect like Mayweather, he lost to other boxers before and came back winning again, so no pressure.
Pacquiao vs Mayweather will be the biggest fight ever in many years after Ali. You just don't know who to pick. I am certain of one thing though...
His name will be MANNY
nice article here...
http://www.doghouseboxing.com/Ken/Hissner050210.htm
“Pac Man” has no fear of Mayweather. Can Mayweather say the same toward Pacquiao? I believe the blood tests are a perfect example. Who is Mayweather to demand something of Pacquiao who is the best pound for pound and holder of a championship belt? Pacquiao doesn’t need Mayweather like Mayweather needs Pacquiao. Pacquiao is exciting to watch and Mayweather isn’t. The Mosley fight is case in point. In my opinion, De La Hoya picks Mayweather because Pacquiao is with Top Rank and Pacquiao kicked his ass ten times more than Mayweather and he would rather see Pacquiao get his.
Props to Floyd fighting his most dangerous compe ion ever...a 38 year old shane mosely. He fights one and all of a sudden he is GOAT...hahahahha.
And only idiots would compare Manny fighting Marquez and Floyd fighting Marquez. Manny fought Marquez both times at 130 while Floyd made Marquez move up to 147.
For 50 years, boxing never needed olympic style drug testing...all of a sudden, Floyd wants it? Yah cuz he's a scared ass .
Sergio Martinez would beat Mayweather, he wouldn't want any of that.
You keep saying this as if Floyd is some big fighter.. The man started out as a Featherweight. Only fought at WW in the last few years. No version of JMM has any chance at all against Floyd. 130, 140, 200 pds, he is getting his ass kicked regardless..
Never needed it.. Uh i beg to difer. The very man that Floyd just spanked was caught red handed admitting to taking steroids for some of his career. The 2nd controversial fight with Oscar, he was roided up like a Mofo for that fight. Yes boxing needs this type of testing. If Manny position is, he'd rather walk away from a 40 mil payday than take blood tests randomlly as the Olympic rules state, than that tells me he is hiding something.. All that crap about he'll take it 2 weeks before and then right after, what the is the difference?? IT does not make you weak. That is a lame ass excuse. Shane was roiding and he agreed to do this, so Manny should to, if he wants that payday.. If you watched the 24/7 shows the guys running the tests were all saying "This needs to be done across sports, because it is just so easy to beat these tests"For 50 years, boxing never needed olympic style drug testing...all of a sudden, Floyd wants it? Yah cuz he's a scared ass .
As for Marquez/Maweather, we'll never know if he coulda have hung with mayweather. Not only did Floyd make Marquez move up two weight classes, but he himself came over contract weight. haha. You say that Floyd only fought welter weight for the last few years, then why ask a lightweight to move up to feather weight? How may years has Marquez fought in welterweight or even light welterweight?! ANSWER: ZERO. Why not fight Berto or some one else already in the welterwight division?
As for Mosely, yes he should take the blood test. Mosely wants this fight cuz its his payday. He needs to take the test to get this fight cuz he is already guilty of previous drug charges. That makes sense.
well floyd may be one of the best "boxers" ever but he would not rank anywhere in the top 50 of the best "fighters". the object is to win the match, however, so he has done what he has had to do. and he has been stellar in that regard.
http://sports.yahoo.com/box/news;_yl...w-pacman050410
Great article on why Manny is so full of . Take the test dooode.
Damn, I came into this thread to post that article. He's needs to man up and take the test or STFU about Mayweather and move on.
Manny is juicing
It's pretty obvious...
Every elite athlete accused of steroids in this era has basically been found guilty. Now we have Manny supposed boxing p4p king, saying he won't take certain drug tests and we are supposed to believe him about being clean..
I sure don't..
lol...asking a guy who has taken every challenge and whooped his opponent to man up... While Mayweather's toughest compe or was a 38 year old Mosely.
I dont know why you guys just say "man up" to Mayweather and just take the fight without adding more to the rules that has already been established.
the nevada commission should just make in mandatory then.
Do you believe Manny is clean even though he is refusing to take tests to clear his name taking into account everything else i just said about athletes in this era??
i believe Manny doesn't have to give the upper hand to Mayweather. I believed it then, and I believe it now. I dont flip flop on my stance.
Do you think Manny was taking roids when he whooped on Lebwada and Barrera early in his career? When do you think he started using HGH? When he whooped on De La Hoya, was he on roids or was DLH just old?
Also..clear his name?! Who accused him of roids without proof? Mayweather Sr?! lol
A 38 year old Mosley that was a top 10 p4p fighter up until the PBF fight, and is still considered a top 5 WW. Joshua "punching bag" Clottey wasn't a worldbeater.
Because Mayweather is supposed to be the ducker and coward. Right? So why doesn't Manny show PBF how much more of a warrior he is? If he accepts, PBF has no excuse, and if he beats PBF, his legacy is basically complete. But Mother Mary will weaken him if he takes a blood test? GMAFB.
PBF might be a prick, but Pac-Man isn't doing himself any favors. Avoiding the Fight of the New Century because of the *timing* of the blood test (not the test itself, which he agreed to in the past) is crap.
hahha funny how PBF didnt want any part of Cotto, Margarito, Clottey, Mosely, Berto. Top welterweights.....but he redeemed himself with a 38 yr old mosely who hasnt fought in 15 months. hahaha. Yet you guys call out a guy who took every challenge in his career. Mayweather retires to avoid all of them and comes back and tells Marquez to move up 2 weight classes. haha. All this and now pacquaio is the ducker. haha
Pacquiao can fight right now against mayweather, but WHO is setting up a road block for the fight? MAYWEATHER IS. Pacquaio isnt the one demanding stuff. No road block, then the fight is on.
Put it this way. Here is two scenarios how this can play off.
1)Sign Contract. Fight.
2) Ask for a bood test not required by the commision. Wait for Pacquiao to agree to a test. Sign Contract. Fight.
Which scenario is faster and who is preventing the fight from happening?
Pacquiao agreed to the test MONTHS ago. He wanted the two week cutoff, so he backed out of the deal. Now he's playing the "it's not a necessary test" angle.
The faster scenario was if Pac-Man accepted initally. He could've beat PBF back in March and been the undisputed king of boxing. So you can't act like the blood test is going to take an eternity. Won't the results be released after the fight anyways? How would it take more time?
Mosley agreed, took the test, and already fought PBF. I don't think Pacquiao is a coward at all, and I'm not going to accuse him of juicing. But he needs to do man up and do the same. Especially if he's gonna keep running his mouth about how he can beat PBF. He's not being asked to turn water into wine or to kill his dog.
By seeing to it the fight is on a level playing field???
This is about who is the best. If Manny is the best what is the problem? Floyd is taking all these tests and yes if you watched 24/7 they are very intrusive. They showed up to Shane's house as he was about to get in the car and head to Vegas, demanding urine and blood But Floyd is doing it and we know 100% he is clean.. You can hate Floyd all you want but you can't hate on this policy. He is saying "I am going to whip your ass no excuses"
How would i know if he was or wasn't??Do you think Manny was taking roids when he whooped on Lebwada and Barrera early in his career?
Nobody knows that's the point..When do you think he started using HGH?
Oscar was drained by weight and old but again we don't know if Manny was clean..When he whooped on De La Hoya, was he on roids or was DLH just old?
It's not fair but it is a fact in this era of sports you are indeed guilty until proven innocent when it comes to roids and HGH. All these iconic baseball players that people defended one after the other went down as guilty. 100% all of them. So like i said before no we cannot take Manny by his word, nobod's word is good enough in this day and age. Manny needs to just take the tests, collect his monster payday and try to beat the best fighter in the world..Also..clear his name?! Who accused him of roids without proof? Mayweather Sr?! lol
i could agree with every thing you posted except that last part. haha
He's the best cuz he beat Shane Mosely.
Im assuming everyone is on HGH from now on. Lebron, Kobe, Tiger Woods. They all take roids. Even Mayweather before the Mosely fight...he was roiding too.
The last line was least important part of my post. I see you really have no response to the rest..i could agree with every thing you posted except that last part. haha
He's the best cuz he beat Shane Mosely.
Im assuming everyone is on HGH from now on. Lebron, Kobe, Tiger Woods. They all take roids. Even Mayweather before the Mosely fight...he was roiding too.
Yes all athletes are guilty until proven innocent in this era. Facts are facts when it comes to one cheater after another denying it and getting exposed..
Once upon a time we all defended people like him...
What part of "i could agree with every thing you posted except that last part." you dont get.The last line was least important part of my post. I see you really have no response to the rest..
Yes all athletes are guilty until proven innocent in this era. Facts are facts when it comes to one cheater after another denying it and getting exposed..
Once upon a time we all defended people like him...
Im all for Manny taking the test. I just hate when people say Mayweather is the best.
I can see this statement. Floyd moved up to 147 in late 2005. Judah was a decent test but really no match because he's just a headcase and Baldomir was nothing more than a walking heavy bag.
Goes up to 54 to fight Oscar. Nothing more than a pay day fight. I'd do the same. Then fights 140 Hatton and 135 Marquez. It literally took an earthquake and people dying for Floyd to fight a top 147er and Shane was considered the best 147er after working Margarito in many boxing experts eyes.
I can see why he wouldn't fight Cotto or Margarito or any Bob Arum fighters. I can also see why many people would say he's ducked a few fighters.
I agree. I don't see how Mayweather can be the best when imho, he hasn't fought anyone in thier prime or weightclass that was even a risk.
At the end of the day we are both big fans of the sport and just wanna see the fight happen. I was with ya in the thread when this ty thing fell apart months ago and it sucked. Mosley and Mayweather was a decent replacement but whatever it takes to get this onWhat part of "i could agree with every thing you posted except that last part." you dont get.
Im all for Manny taking the test. I just hate when people say Mayweather is the best.
Lets do it already..
i am finding it funny how after Margarito beat down Cotto everyone called Floyd a pussy for not fighting him then Mosley kills Margarito like he is nothing and Floyd dessimates Shane like he is nothing but "no no no no"
say the Floyd Haters.. "Shane was all washed up".. Hardly, Floyd just made him look that way.. Sometimes you gotta suck it up and admit someone is that good..
Last edited by dbreiden83080; 05-07-2010 at 08:42 PM.
New York Post update:
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/boxin...KT6PJAVU2YCX4N
Sounds like this fight (if it is going to happen), might go down next year. Would that put Manny and Money in a warm up fight with some stiffs? I just hope that these two guys realize how much their sport needs this fight. Get it done fellas.
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