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    One more thing. I am not saying that these things are guaranteed to happen. I am just stating that Manu is very unpredictable and very hard to defend. To think Marion could shut him down completely is nonsense. You can only hope to contain Manu. Containing him normally takes a team effort, not the defense of one man.
    And who said that Marion will shut down Gino completly?

    I said and meant that the Mavs have a very good defensive solution for the Gino matchup and that Gino would have a hard time against Marion delivering his "normal" game or stats. Nothing more. And watching Marion this season against James, Kobe, Carmella or Durant you should admit that its gonna be tough for Gino.

    No one said something about taking him out of the game completly etc.

    Thats why i see the Mavs as favorite, they have good answers against the 2 most important players of the Spurs (Gino and Duncan) but Spurs have no answer for Dirk.

    i almost feel bad for Dallas fan. They're about to find out what "playoff Shawn Marion" is all about and they have no ing idea....
    It gonna be hard to choke playing defense. Marion isnt in Dallas for offense. He is 100% here for defense and he knows that. Mavs barely run a play for him, he barely touch the ball at offense. His points or mostly fastbreak or garbage cleaning up.

    And could we let this youtube out of this thread please?

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    lol Nets
    lol Grizzlies

    Mavs create matchup problems and have the mental edge. If there's one team this Mavs squad doesn't fear, it's San Antonio. At most, it would go 6 games. Calling Mavs in 5.
    This must be the new Mavs, because you can make a good argument that the Mavs are one of the worse playoff teams ever when you take into account their body of work.

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    Not against the Spurs, but y'know, Spurs fans like to ignore that.

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    Clearly the Mavs are the favorite based on seeding and H2H matchups. This is exactly why I want both the Mavs and the Spurs to bring it on wednesday. Dallas has yet to play the Spurs during their recent resurgence and I think the Spurs want to add another division leader to their string of victories vs. playoff bound teams.

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    And who said that Marion will shut down Gino completly?

    I said and meant that the Mavs have a very good defensive solution for the Gino matchup and that Gino would have a hard time against Marion delivering his "normal" game or stats. Nothing more. And watching Marion this season against James, Kobe, Carmella or Durant you should admit that its gonna be tough for Gino.

    No one said something about taking him out of the game completly etc.
    I would agree. Marion is a good solution for the Mavs. You can't shut down Manu for 48 minutes. It's important for the Spurs that Manu finds a way to score consistently.
    Thats why i see the Mavs as favorite, they have good answers against the 2 most important players of the Spurs (Gino and Duncan) but Spurs have no answer for Dirk.
    Good answer for Duncan? Duncan always scored big numbers on the Mavs. Give Damp props for his defense in the last year playoffs. It was important for the Mavs that they came away without doubleteams on Timmy, but he still found a way to score. A 100% Duncan never had problems with Dampier or Haywood.
    And this year the spurs will have more offensive weapons than last year. Last year was a two-men-offense. We only had Duncan and Parker - this year will be much different.

    I can see an upset comin'

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    It will be interesting to see. Realize that the list of players you mention marion "shutting down" above are almost all sf's. Kobe is the sg.

    Kobe shot 6-12 against dallas, the other he shot 9-23 for 25 pts. He did not explode, but I would not call that shut down either. Realize that Kobe averages about 44% shooting.

    James was 9-23 for 25, and 10-20. Again, not "shut down".

    Durant was 7-18.

    Marion was most effective against Carmelo. Carmelo is strong and fast for a sf, but not like a fast sg like manu. I don't think the results would be more similar to marion defending carmelo (sf's), compared to sg's defended by marion.

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    Stop with that "shutting down".

    Everyone was below their scoring averages and mostly below their FG%.

    Just that. You have to give Marion at least some credit for it.

    I take Marion defending a SG over Wright, George, Hassell or Buckner

    And a good answer for Duncan i meant 3 strong bodies that can play good to solid defense. Im not talking about stopping Duncan. But here the same, Duncan will have to work hard against multiple players coming fresh from the bench.

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    Would love to see Tim, Manu, Dyess and RJ sit this one out. Let Hill and Parker knock off the rust and give them 32+ minutes each, and let the bench get some run.

    This Spurs team has not played the Mavs yet, and it would be great to keeps the cards close to the vest going into the first round.

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    Not against the Spurs, but y'know, Spurs fans like to ignore that.
    Two ty examples (06, 09) that Mavs fans have overblown into a delusional rite of passage.

    In 2006, it went to 7 games and if not for a bone headed foul by Manu, the Spurs are winning.

    And then, in 2009, there is no Manu.

    Jesus Christ, you sure have us mentally. lol

    The Finals choking, first place first round chokers sure have the Spurs numbers when it comes to the playoffs.

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    Get ready for the most free throws for jumpshooter you've ever seen.

    Dirk has a free throw to drive ratio per game of of like 25-1

    Ill put money he shoots more than manu, and manu will get raped evertime he's in the lane

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    Two ty examples (06, 09) that Mavs fans have overblown into a delusional rite of passage.

    In 2006, it went to 7 games and if not for a bone headed foul by Manu, the Spurs are winning.

    And then, in 2009, there is no Manu. lol
    I didn't say they kicked their asses. But they're not the "worse [sic] playoff team ever" against them either.

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    I didn't say they kicked their asses. But they're not the "worse [sic] playoff team ever" either.
    Choking in the finals and losing to the 8th seed Warriors, all within the last 4 years, would dictate and they possibly are.

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    I edited. We're talking Mavs vs. Spurs, don't change the subject.

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    Mavs suck, but I would vote on the suns as the worst playoff team in recent times

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    Clearly, the Grizzlies are Teh Worst Playoff Team Evah(TM).

    However, the 2006 Finals followed by the 2007 first round might have been the worst consecutive series ever by one team.

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    Get ready for the most free throws for jumpshooter you've ever seen.

    Dirk has a free throw to drive ratio per game of of like 25-1

    Ill put money he shoots more than manu, and manu will get raped evertime he's in the lane
    I would wish. Defenders can put both hands and even the bodies on Dirk on his sweet spot all the time. Easiest foulcall of the world if you follow the rulebook but refs barely call it even if its players like Corey Brewer or D. Arthur in crunchtime.


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    I edited. We're talking Mavs vs. Spurs, don't change the subject.
    How did I change the subject? You edited your post for a reason.

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    Not against the Spurs, but y'know, Spurs fans like to ignore that.
    Series are split 2-2. I guess playing .500 ball agianst anyone in the playoffs rocks the Mav world. Pretty good at losing against everyone else. So, its pretty safe to say, elimination of the Mavs is not an issue of if but when.

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    If the Spurs get the Mavs, they should probably just forfeit. They can't match the talent, depth, coaching, poise, or toughness.

    True.

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    I'll say this ...

    I'm rooting for the Mavs-Spurs matchup. Not so much because I think the Mavs are that much better than the Spurs ... because frankly I don't think there is that much of a difference top to bottom in the West.

    But I do like the matchup because I think it will be a less physical series than playing Portland or OKC. Really I wish we had the least physical team ... PHX, but you can't have everything.

    All the first round Western series are going 6 or 7 so you want the least amount of wear and tear possible.

    Should be an entertaining series if it happens.

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    Tale of the tape:

    Head to head playoff: 2-2

    Dallas
    playoff record 68-80
    series record 13-15
    playoff apperances 15
    W/C championships 1
    Championships 0

    2010 season to date 54-27
    head to head to date 2-1


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    W/C championships 4
    Championships 4

    2010 season to date 50-31
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    Dallas has not faced a Spurs team at full strength
    since the WCFs.

    I like our chances.

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    I like our chances against Mavs as well. Mavs have no answer for Parker, Manu or Duncan. Spurs in 6 (only because Mavs have HCA). Otherwise, Spurs in 5.

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    Every year the Mavs raise their hopes up and every year they fail... Sad but true.
    These speak volumes and will trump any any Mav fan speaks.

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    Until the Mavs win a championship, all of these Mav trolls chiming in on how awesome their team is are like little, annoying knats, just waiting to be swatted away.

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