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    No. But I hope he keeps working on it. He is not absolutely terrible, but like I said, he is not known for shooting. Especially from deep.

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    Malik was a great DL 3-PT shooter. It does not always translate. Things are different down there.
    Yeah, Malik sucks. Doesn't really have anything to do with Gee, though. Two different players. The NBA stage was obviously too big for Malik. Doesn't seem to be the case for Gee.

    It is widely known that Gee is not a good shooter at this point in time. He might have shown some small flashes, but that is certainly not a strong point.
    I don't think that's widely known at all. Bringing up his collegiate DX profile is even less relevant than some of the other stuff you posted. He's not that player any more. He's shooting a better percentage from a further distance in both the d-league and NBA than his best year in college.

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    Yeah, Malik sucks. Doesn't really have anything to do with Gee, though. Two different players. The NBA stage was obviously too big for Malik. Doesn't seem to be the case for Gee.
    CROFL. This logic is stupid. Keep clinging to your 9 game sample size.



    I don't think that's widely known at all. Bringing up his collegiate DX profile is even less relevant than some of the other stuff you posted. He's not that player any more. He's shooting a better percentage from a further distance in both the d-league and NBA than his best year in college.
    Except that it is widely known. For people who actually follow him and watch him play and don't just Google NBA box scores to make their point.

    Also, the link I provided was from his DL time last year, not college.

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    CROFL. This logic is stupid. Keep clinging to your 9 game sample size.

    Again, small sample size, but CLEARLY differentiates him from Malik, who essentially did nothing from 3 in a 62 game trial. Obviously the Spurs were impressed by it. They signed him for the year before he could even remove his Wiz jersey. Yeah, crofl Spurs.


    Except that it is widely known. For people who actually follow him and watch him play and don't just Google NBA box scores to make their point.

    Also, the link I provided was from his DL time last year, not college.
    You watching a couple of games where maybe he missed threes doesn't erase a fine season. Sorry you didn't get your money's worth for the games you watched. Doesn't make him a sketchy shooter.

    Maybe you provided multiple links, because one of them definitely went back to his DX profile. If you linked to his d-league profile too, well, that just supports my position.

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    Ok, you keep your position that he is a good shooter. I will stick to the correct position, which is he is not known for being a good shooter, especially from distance at this point in his career.

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    lol @ Gee being a good shooter. I remember him airballing a load of open jumpers in the Summer League.

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    lol @ Gee being a good shooter. I remember him airballing a load of open jumpers in the Summer League.
    I remember George Hill shooting like 5% in Summer League. Great barometer of future success.

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    I remember George Hill shooting like 5% in Summer League. Great barometer of future success.
    Not of future success, but right now he's just not a good shooter. It's a fact...Not that it doesn't mean he shouldn't get his chance to make an impact.

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    Not of future success, but right now he's just not a good shooter. It's a fact...Not that it doesn't mean he shouldn't get his chance to make an impact.
    How is a poor SL shooting performance a better indicator than an entire d-league season + an NBA callup? As DPG would day, it's too small a sample.

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    Then by that logic, how does Malik suck? He played well in the SL, D-League, pre-season, and in a couple of games during the regular season.

    SL was Gee's his most recent performance, and a lot of his jumpers were wide open. Let's just call him inconsistent...Hopefully he'll get some meaningful minutes this season and prove me otherwise.

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    Here we are, 4 months later.

    It looks to me like Gee has a real shot at taking some minutes as the backup 3. Physically, he should be more than capable.

    With how the offseason has panned out, how do you rate Gee's standing on this roster.
    I think he's in an excellent position as the Spurs haven't signed any veteran small forwards and the other guards don't duplicate his skillset.
    He definitely has a shot at backup three minutes, but I think he'll primarily be the thirteenth man.

    I suspect Anderson and Ginobili will play the vast majority of the backup three minutes and the leftover perimeter minutes to go to either Temple or Neal, with Temple having the edge because he's a better defender.

    Gee reminds me of a slightly taller, much younger, better shooting version of Devin Brown. I like his chances.
    From the build to the slashing ability, Gee reminds me of Maggette.

    Like Maggette, despite the fact that he's "only" 6-6, because of his strength and his mediocre handle, I suspect his primary position will ultimately be SF and on this team, strictly SF.

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    From the build to the slashing ability, Gee reminds me of Maggette.

    Like Maggette, despite the fact that he's "only" 6-6, because of his strength and his mediocre handle, I suspect his primary position will ultimately be SF and on this team, strictly SF.
    I like the comparison, physically. He is obviously less talented and skilled as Maggette, but skill sets are similar. Most importantly, he is probably not as much of a ball hogging idiot as Maggette.

    There's no point in bringing up Hairston in this conversation. The Spurs made their choice. They like Gee better. They are probably right.

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    Then by that logic, how does Malik suck? He played well in the SL, D-League, pre-season, and in a couple of games during the regular season.
    Are you forgetting 62 NBA games over 2 seasons? That's a pretty good sample size, and he shot 16.7%. That's pretty sucky, and in games that mean something.

    Come at me with "Malik can't shoot" and I've got your back. Come at me with "Gee can't shoot", and you have an argument on your hands. The numbers don't support you.

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    He took 12 threes....Talk about a small sample size.

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    I like the comparison, physically. He is obviously less talented and skilled as Maggette, but skill sets are similar. Most importantly, he is probably not as much of a ball hogging idiot as Maggette.

    There's no point in bringing up Hairston in this conversation. The Spurs made their choice. They like Gee better. They are probably right.
    I don't know that they made their choice, so much as Hairston got a guaranteed contract and obviously felt that he couldn't pass it up.

    Had he stayed, I suspect Hairston would have beat Gee out for a spot, though. Not only because the Spurs had spent two years developing him and he had two years playing in a similar system, but because he had more of a defensive mindset.

    Gee may very well be the more talented player of the two, but I felt Hairston was a better fit for the Spurs at this time.

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    Malik looked lost and sort of dumb on the court, hopefully Gee doesn't have that problem.

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    He took 12 threes....Talk about a small sample size.
    Hairston took only 12 threes in 62 ing games. If it's a small sample it's his own fault. He was in an offense that lives on the three ball. Gee took 9 in 11 NBA games. Don't you think that shows something? A willingness to put it on the line? A lack of fear?

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    Hairston took only 12 threes in 62 ing games. If it's a small sample it's his own fault. He was in an offense that lives on the three ball. Gee took 9 in 11 NBA games. Don't you think that shows something? A willingness to put it on the line? A lack of fear?
    Maybe that's something we can agree on. To me Hairston seemed a little timid at times, lacking that drive, and killer instinct that may have separated himself from others (Keith Bogus) with similar skill sets.

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    I don't know that they made their choice, so much as Hairston got a guaranteed contract and obviously felt that he couldn't pass it up.

    Had he stayed, I suspect Hairston would have beat Gee out for a spot, though. Not only because the Spurs had spent two years developing him and he had two years playing in a similar system, but because he had more of a defensive mindset.

    Gee may very well be the more talented player of the two, but I felt Hairston was a better fit for the Spurs at this time.
    Maybe. There is no way of knowing for sure, but I feel that story that came out had some PR spin on it. Given the fact that Hairston didn't get any burn in the playoffs in preference for Bogans/Mason (I know he was injured, but so were the guys ahead of him) and the fact that he was held out of summer league because the Spurs "knew what they had" in Hairston.
    It's certainly open for interpretation, but I feel like if the Spurs were that high on Hairston, they would have found a way to keep him around and I'm not sure Gee would be here.

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    Malik showed good tools on defense and his rebounding was very good. He was a solid finisher as well.

    His shooting sucked, and Gee's is not any better. That was my only point of contention. That and I thought it was premature to say "the NBA stage looked to big for Malik, but not for Gee".

    That could very well end up being the case, but that does not mean it is correct to say that now.

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    Malik showed good tools on defense and his rebounding was very good. He was a solid finisher as well.

    His shooting sucked, and Gee's is not any better. That was my only point of contention. That and I thought it was premature to say "the NBA stage looked to big for Malik, but not for Gee".

    That could very well end up being the case, but that does not mean it is correct to say that now.
    All I know is if both Gee and Hairston were both on FA market Gee would sought after by NBA teams and Hairston, well hairston has recently chosen europe so that should tell us that no other team in NBA must have shown any interest. Look, I like Hairston but his size and skills are a dime a dozen in the NBA. Gee has a little more upside thus the extra interest from NBA teams.

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    Gee had an opportunity due to cir stance. Malik did not. Gee was on a team. Given, he did do well.

    The point is that he is not know for being a good shooter.

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    Gee had an opportunity due to cir stance. Malik did not. Gee was on a team. Given, he did do well.

    The point is that he is not know for being a good shooter.
    So why didn't Hairston take his game to another team this offseason where he might get that opportunity?

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    He did. In Europe. The point is, if Gee was signed by the Spurs all last year, like Malik, he would not have had the opportunity to play. Just like Malik.

    You seem to keep forgetting that Malik was kept around by the Spurs a lot longer than Gee was. Only now has that changed.

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    So why didn't Hairston take his game to another team this offseason where he might get that opportunity?
    Loyalty with the Spurs, he will be back.

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