Free Throw Disparity

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Duncan's ratio had an increase in that series as well and was higher than Dirk's. Duncan shot more FTs than Dirk on fewer FG attempts. It goes both ways buddy.

Anyway, like I said, you cant really look at those numbers in a vacuum. Every series is different. Some are more intense and more physical than others. You need to look at each series individually.

what?

I cant say I understand your point at all

Lets see, according to Basketball reference, Duncan's Career playoff FTA/FGA is 1375/2788 = 49.3%. In that series, Duncan shot 90 FTA, and took 144 FGA. 90/144 = 62.5%. 62.5 - 49.3 = 13.2% increase.

Meanwhile, Dirk, has a career playoff FTA/FGA of 870/1784 = 48.8%. In that series Dirk shot 80 FTA on 110 FGA. 80/110 =72.7%. 72.7-48.8 = 23.9%.

Lie # 1: "Duncan's ratio increase was higher than Dirks" 13.2% < 23.9%
Lie # 2: "Duncan shot more more FT's on fewer attempts than Dirk". 144 > 110

Also, this looking at numbers in a vacuum hand-waving, I'm not, I'm comparing each players historical performance to what was exhibited in that series. This pretty much highlights the difference in performance in that series relative to the average conditions throughout that players career. Given there have been few major rule changes (ie the size of the court hasn't changed, etc.) we are pretty much left with player performance and the refs calls. Yeah, Dirk was playing well, even for him. So were a lot of players that series. However, he wasn't playing THAT exceptionally, to justify him drawing FTA's at half again his normal rate...

Given the number of people who's opinion from watching is that the refereeing in that series was distinctly odd, this kind of statistical confirmation carries a significant weight.

[dude1394]

Mavs- 34

Spurs- 14

and you chokers only won by six? I really think the Mavs are going to win this series not because they're better, but because they simply get too many calls from the refs. Regardless, these little chokers are going to get bukkaked by whoever they meet in the Finals. Once a choker, always a choker

Let's try foul disparity...You guys are funny.

The Spurs were whistled for 28 fouls.
The Mavs were whistled for 20 fouls.
Of the Spurs' 28 fouls, how many of them were intentional/semi-intentional? Four or five?
So not counting the fouls that were part of Pop's "strategy,'' the "discrepancy'' adds up somewhere near: Dallas 20 fouls, Spurs 23 fouls.
Some discrepancy.

[dude1394]

Duncan should be shooting the same amount of free throws as dirk if not more. Duncan gets hammered on a regular basis down low with a no call and then they turn around and call a touch foul on the forearm for dirk.

I'm not saying Bonner didn't foul dirk or Mason didn't foul him BUT if you are going to call like that a foul then you better ing call it consistently on the other end (specifically on duncan)

I think that's what most of us are saying around here. It doesn't make sense.

You have to start reading a rule book. Fouls are called differently in the post than outside the box...see manus for example. What folks have a problem with is realizing that dirk is playing in guard land, not post land much of the time. In guard land (check diva, kobe, lebron) things are a little bit different.

In fact dirk doesn't get nearly the calls he should out there because he still has his jersey grabbed, two hands on him and a crossbar on him. None of that would be tolerated against manu at the top of the key.