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    The idea of getting a nice trade exception seems grand. The money some small forwards have been getting speaks well to getting RJ overpaid. The more overpaid he is in a SnT the better.

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    not my the smarter spur fans
    they knew he would be to much but not the max

    haha yeah - now even the psychotic pipe dreams of many are being dashed

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    I really don't see the Nets throwing in Damion James.
    It makes more sense for Nets to trade Damion James than TW because TW can also play SG.

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    Trade exceptions can only be used in trades for already signed players, not for free agents.

    Edit: I suppose it could work to pick up another player via S&T, but it doesn't seem likely.
    Well I think I need a little help here.

    So I cannot use the TE for signing a free agent (restricted or not I suppose) ? I also suppose I cannot sign Tiago with the TE, right ?

    sorry for the dumb questions but I'm not an expert on TE stuff.

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    Humphries has always been a nice player. Not a starter/consistent role player but one who is willing to work hard out and fill the energy bench role. Wouldnt mind having him at all.
    tbh I don't know if you're confusing him with someone else but Humphries has established a pretty well deserved reputation as a chucker ball hog who shoots nearly every time he gets the ball. His usage rates for a player in his role and with his efficiency/TS% is jarring. He has skills as a rebounder/complimentary scorer but he has always forced way too many shots.

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    TW is surely better than James. He is a better scorer and as Bruno said, can definitely play two positions.

    I don't see them parting with either. It would be nice. I would just like a TE.


    When is the earliest this can get done, the 8th?

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    Terrance Williams is an absolute monster athletically. If the Spurs could somehow trade RJ for him I would be extremely happy.

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    Well I think I need a little help here.

    So I cannot use the TE for signing a free agent (restricted or not I suppose) ? I also suppose I cannot sign Tiago with the TE, right ?

    sorry for the dumb questions but I'm not an expert on TE stuff.
    A "TE" stands for a Trade Exception. You can only use it in trades, not signing FA's. It is not like an exception (MLE) and only works through a trade.

    It really just functions as a hold for trading a player. This happens because teams under the cap, don't have to match salaries in a trade. It gives the team who traded a chance to maintain their cap level.

    Does that help?

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    Terrance Williams is an absolute monster athletically. If the Spurs could somehow trade RJ for him I would be extremely happy.
    Real talk. I would be happy with just a TW and RJ swap. If the Spurs also got a TE with that, pffffffffffffff.

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    Josh Childress would be great! but would he want to come to the spurs
    rumors are boston is afteer him

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    A "TE" stands for a Trade Exception. You can only use it in trades, not signing FA's. It is not like an exception (MLE) and only works through a trade.
    I could be wrong, but I don't think that's right. A trade exception is just like any other exception and can be used on a FA signing.

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    Terrence Williams would be a very, very bad fit. He has tons of athletic skills and some playmaking skills, but he is an absolutely horrific outside shooter. Since TP and Manu are creators he would be useless when they have the ball in the half court except for cutting to the basket.

    He would be best served playingwith perimeter shooters around him, so that he could create off the dribble and they could space the floor for him not the other way around.

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    I could be wrong, but I don't think that's right. A trade exception is just like any other exception and can be used on a FA signing.
    http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#Q71

    "

    Here is an example of a non-simultaneous trade: a team trades away a $2 million player for a $1 million player. Sometime in the next year, they trade a draft pick (with zero trade value itself) for a $1.1 million player to complete the earlier trade. They ended up acquiring $2.1 million in salary for their $2 million player -- they just didn't do it all at once, or even necessarily with the same trading partner.

    In the above example, after the initial trade of the $2 million player for the $1 million player, it was like the team had a "credit" for one year, with which they could acquire up to $1.1 million in salaries without having to send out salaries to match. This credit is often referred to as a Traded Player exception or a trade exception, but be aware that the CBA uses the name "Traded Player exception" to refer to the entire exception which allows teams to make trades above the salary cap (including simultaneous trades, non-simultaneous trades, and base year compensation).

    There are some common misconceptions about non-simultaneous trades. For one, teams cannot use a Traded Player exception to sign free agents; it can be used only to acquire existing contracts from other teams. For another, teams cannot combine a Traded Player exception with other exceptions (such as the Mid-Level exception or the 125% plus $100,000 margin from another trade) in order to trade for a more expensive player. For example, a team with a $1 million Traded Player exception cannot combine it with their $2 million player to trade for a $3 million player (see question number 74 for more information on combining exceptions). "


    Very complicated, I know.

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    Could this have a bearing on signing Splitter? Would it be possible he takes up a TE rather than MLE, which would now go toward a 3?

    I imagine those amounts couldn't be split, In the case of signing a new player, regardless of how much of a TE the Spurs could create, or is that not the case?

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    I could be wrong, but I don't think that's right. A trade exception is just like any other exception and can be used on a FA signing.
    yes, you are wrong

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    Could this have a bearing on signing Splitter? Would it be possible he takes up a TE rather than MLE, hich would go toward a 3? I imagine those amounts couldn't be split, regardless of how much of a TE the Spurs could create?
    trade exception can only be used in trades

    There wouldn't really be much of a difference though with Splitter. It would still be the MLE for Splitter assuming the Spurs don't cheap out on him, and the availability of the Trade Exception to land a small forward.

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    Real talk. I would be happy with just a TW and RJ swap. If the Spurs also got a TE with that, pffffffffffffff.
    That's real talk for sure. TW makes rj look like danny ferry.

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    yes, you are wrong

    And, you are a bag.

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    I think you can use a TE in a sign & trade, but I am not even sure about that....That would kind of be like using it on a FA.

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    wasn't Terrence Williams a strong candidate for being mentally ill? I seem to remember that at draft time he had a rep for not being all there.

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    trade exception can only be used in trades

    There wouldn't really be much of a difference though with Splitter. It would still be the MLE for Splitter assuming the Spurs don't cheap out on him, and the availability of the Trade Exception to land a small forward.

    Roger. Thanks for clarifying

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    s&t RJ for randolph and morrow?

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    And, you are a bag.
    why? Because you put it out there that you 'could be wrong' and actually were?


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    S&T involving Wilson Chandler

    long shot, fantasy gm move.

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    So, the trade exception is more of a long-term benefit? How exactly could the Spurs use that as an immediate help?

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