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Spurs are absolute re s if they are being cheap with Tiago. The Spurs wouldn't be trying to low ball him would they? Surely they aren't that stupid are they?
Now that the cap figures have been released and there's a short-term deadline, I expect we'll hear something one way or the other in the next couple days. A framework for the deal should have already been worked out and now all it takes is the detailed discussions and putting pen to paper.
Spurs are absolute re s if they are being cheap with Tiago. The Spurs wouldn't be trying to low ball him would they? Surely they aren't that stupid are they?
RJ opted out, Salary Cap is $2M higher than projected (higher MLE), Spurs have other free agents to consider...all of these are factors in negotiation. Spurs are trying to build a team, and while Splitter is the biggest piece of that this off-season, they wouldn't be doing their jobs if they just handed him the full MLE for max years with up-front payments.
It's not lowballing, it's negotiating.
I doubt the Spurs are looking to lowball Tiago, but there is benefit to the Spurs being able to save some of the MLE to be able to use on Richards. If the Spurs truly are high on Richards then it makes sense to lock him up for 3 years so that when his contract expires the Spurs would have full bird rights on him with Richards still being a restricted free agent. In order to give Richards a 3 year deal they'd have to use the MLE since the LLE and league min are 2yrs max.
So the negotiation process with Splitter is not neccissarily as simple as "okay Tiago, here's our full MLE".
Yeah they should be smart like the Knicks and the Grizzlies.
This is the exact reason why Richards should stay overseas for another year or 2. He should have no effect on the structuring of next seasons roster. I do not think the spurs are really fighting for this kid to come over so soon for this exact reason. The spurs are extremely limited financialy and hopefully a 2nd rd pick will not dictate what veterans are eligible to the spurs
Maybe not but it looks like some Spurs fans have already begun talking themselves into Splitter being too greedy.
"Begging and pleading Spurs don't blow this"
I agree, but Richards is definitely talking like he wants to be over here immediately. Since he's got the ability to force the Spurs hand by being able to accept the tender offer the Spurs are required to make in order to keep his rights, the Spurs need to be prepared to lock the guy up to a multi year contract right now.
Richards can take a 2 year deal and like it. The Spurs still will have early bird rights meaning they could match any contract he was offered anyway unless my memory is faulty. It was the Arenas Rule put in place after Golden State couldn't exceed the MLE to keep Arenas after his 2 year deal. This guy isn't Dejuan Blair ready to step in with lottery talent and concerns about his longterm health.
If it comes down to either
A: Getting Splitter and Richards taking his 2 year deal
or
B: Losing Splitter just to give a deal of at least 3 years to Richards
Then any answer other than A is just insane and the Spurs would deserve to lose forever.
Agreed...and I don't see any indication that the Spurs are actually pushing for a 3yr deal from Richards. Based on who they've been linked to, it's likely they're looking to add another shooter or SF, so any difference between Splitter's salary and the MLE would go to that end.
Spurs never do anything til' the cap figures are released. Settle down.
I don't think anyone will argue with you there.
No one wants Richards to mess up getting Splitter. But that doesn't mean that the only sensible thing for the Spurs to do is throw the full MLE Splitter's way the very second that they're able to. The Spurs owe it to themselves to see if they can get Splitter for something less than the MLE so that they can use that remainder to bring in another player. If it's going to take the full MLE to get Splitter, he'll get it. If it's not, good for us.
Both sides have too much vested interest in getting a deal done for a deal to not get done.
Nobody even knows for sure that Richards even has a buyout clause that would allow him to even accept a tender offer.
Sticky this post at the front of the page.
Thanks dude.
BTW have you checked the PM I sent you?
damn, still nothing
The salary cap figures have been released for less than 24hrs, and this decision can't stretch anywhere beyond a week from today. Patience is a virtue.
I'm pretty confident it'll happen because the fundamental pieces are in place...in other words, Splitter wants to be here, Spurs want him here and the Spurs should have enough money to get him here. Not too worried about how long it takes them to work out the details.
Oh yeah, forgot about that. lol still thinking about it. :P
It's interesting that Richards could potentially conflict with Splitter: the Spurs had to know this could happen when they drafted Richards. The Spurs must like Richards a lot to risk this...or are you saying this would have happened with any 2nd round pick the Spurs really liked?
WGAF about Richards? Kid is 19 and still getting his feet wet in basketball...
If Herb Rudoy is Splitter's agent, he's not above a few selective press leaks - as we know from Manu's first long term contract negotiations several years ago.
He's not Dan Fegan or anything, but still...
Give the man his money.
Richards was a draft and stash.
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