Is Kevin Martin a superstar?

[The Reckoning]

Aaron Brooks is more a super star than KM

they both suck. but id give it more to martin because he's less of a pussy.

[LkrFan]

Let's see what NBA hotspots has to say. Disclaimer: there is no data from this season. The data used is from last season. Let me proceed:

3pt Land
K-Mart: 22/48 - 45.8%
D-Whistle: 5/25 - 25% (pathetic for a SG)

"Just inside 3pt lane"
K-Mart: 76/190 - 40%
D-Whistle: 131/366 - 35.7%

"Midrange Game"
K-Mart: 37/100 - 37%
D-Whistle: 99/246 - 40.2%

"At the rim"
K-Mart: 96/179 - 53.6%
D-Whistle: 405/639 - 63.4% (shocking, really)

Points Per Game
K-Mart: 23.3 ppg
D-Whistle: 25.3 ppg (he is only 2 points better K-Mart)

**Bonus: Free Throws**

FTAs
K-Mart: 401 FTAs, shooting 88% (in 46 games)
D-Whistle: 390 FTAs, shooting 73.1% (in 42 games)

FTMs/game
K-Mart: 8.7 (37.4% of his ppg)
D-Whistle: 9.3 (36.8% of his ppg)

In summary, D-Whistle is red hot at the rim and the free throw line. From 3pt land and just inside he is pathetic. D-Whistle has a reputation which gives him much leeway with the refs. Take away his shots at the rim and he is shooting a pathetic 36.8%. Problem is, he is strong, and the refs call "touch fouls" on him (no wonder he is 2nd in the league in FTAs - which is "impressive" for a shooting guard that can't shoot). Both D-Whistle and K-Mart get to the line a peculiar amount of times for shooting guards. I say this because they both shoot more per game than Kobe which is a joke in itself.

To answer Ace, K-Mart is not a superstar. But then again neither is D-Whistle without referee help. If the NBA outlawed dunking and "touch fouls," would we really be talking about this dude?

Here are my two sources:

Hot Spots and BSPN

[HarlemHeat37]

Laker fan only focusing on scoring, ignoring everything else..not surprising..

[jestersmash]

Let's see what NBA hotspots has to say. Disclaimer: there is no data from this season. The data used is from last season. Let me proceed:

3pt Land
K-Mart: 22/48 - 45.8%
D-Whistle: 5/25 - 25% (pathetic for a SG)

"Just inside 3pt lane"
K-Mart: 76/190 - 40%
D-Whistle: 131/366 - 35.7%

"Midrange Game"
K-Mart: 37/100 - 37%
D-Whistle: 99/246 - 40.2%

"At the rim"
K-Mart: 96/179 - 53.6%
D-Whistle: 405/639 - 63.4% (shocking, really)

Points Per Game
K-Mart: 23.3 ppg
D-Whistle: 25.3 ppg (he is only 2 points better K-Mart)

**Bonus: Free Throws**

FTAs
K-Mart: 401 FTAs, shooting 88% (in 46 games)
D-Whistle: 390 FTAs, shooting 73.1% (in 42 games)

FTMs/game
K-Mart: 8.7 (37.4% of his ppg)
D-Whistle: 9.3 (36.8% of his ppg)

In summary, D-Whistle is red hot at the rim and the free throw line. From 3pt land and just inside he is pathetic. D-Whistle has a reputation which gives him much leeway with the refs. Take away his shots at the rim and he is shooting a pathetic 36.8%. Problem is, he is strong, and the refs call "touch fouls" on him (no wonder he is 2nd in the league in FTAs - which is "impressive" for a shooting guard that can't shoot). Both D-Whistle and K-Mart get to the line a peculiar amount of times for shooting guards. I say this because they both shoot more per game than Kobe which is a joke in itself.

To answer Ace, K-Mart is not a superstar. But then again neither is D-Whistle without referee help. If the NBA outlawed dunking and "touch fouls," would we really be talking about this dude?

Here are my two sources:

Hot Spots and BSPN

[LkrFan]

Laker fan only focusing on scoring, ignoring everything else..not surprising..

Ok, you got me. D-Whistle averages more points (+2), more rebounds (+3.7), more assists (+1.9), and more steals (+0.6) than K-Mart. Why? Because he dominates the ball and has more respect from the refs. K-Mart shoots at a better clip from 3pt land, "just inside 3pt land," mid range, and FT% - all these are tangible qualities of a true shooting guard's game. Another difference? D-Whistle is more aggressive and stronger than K-Mart. Touch fouls will inevitably turn into SportsCenter highlight dunks, FTAs, or And-1s. In other words, he will always get his points.

If we were comparing who the most explosive player is of the two, it's D-Whistle hands down. But when we talk about pure skill as a shooting guard, I'd take K-Mart over him. Just watch the two times they played Boston to see what I'm saying. In game one he was 4/16 (and people like to clown Kobe's 6/24 effort and ignore Kobe's 15 rebounds in that same game ). In game two he fared no better: 2/12 . I'm not the smartest dude, but that's a combined 6/28 . Why is this happening? Because he's a streaky outside shooter at best, he has a mediocre midrange game (but he can dunk!!) .

Truth be told, I'd be foolish to say D-Whistle is a scrub. He's far from it. It's just that he is not as good as people say he is. He'll get his points because he is aggressive and strong. He's 28. The clock is ticking on him playing his "smash mouth" style of basketball. He is very one dimensional. Once that athleticism is gone, so will myth that he is a true superstar.

[HarlemHeat37]

If we were comparing who the most explosive player is of the two, it's D-Whistle hands down. But when we talk about pure skill as a shooting guard, I'd take K-Mart over him. Just watch when the two times they played Boston to see what I'm saying. In game one he was 4/16 (and people like to clown Kobe's 6/24 effort and ignore Kobe's 15 rebounds in that same game ). In game two he fared no better: 2/12 . I'm not the smartest dude, but that's a combined 6/28 . Why is this happening? Because he's a streaky outside shooter at best, he has a mediocre midrange game (but he can []dunk]!!) .

Truth be told, I'd be foolish to say D-Whistle is a scrub. He's far from it. It's just that he is not as good as people say he is. He'll get his points because he is aggressive and strong. He's 28. The clock is ticking on him playing his "smash mouth" style of basketball. He is very one dimensional. Once that athleticism is gone, so will myth that he is a true superstar.

Finally, we found something that we can agree on..

[LkrFan]

Finally, we found something that we can agree on..

Damn HH, you cut me really deep there.

[Ace]

Let's see what NBA hotspots has to say. Disclaimer: there is no data from this season. The data used is from last season. Let me proceed:

3pt Land
K-Mart: 22/48 - 45.8%
D-Whistle: 5/25 - 25% (pathetic for a SG)

"Just inside 3pt lane"
K-Mart: 76/190 - 40%
D-Whistle: 131/366 - 35.7%

"Midrange Game"
K-Mart: 37/100 - 37%
D-Whistle: 99/246 - 40.2%

"At the rim"
K-Mart: 96/179 - 53.6%
D-Whistle: 405/639 - 63.4% (shocking, really)

Points Per Game
K-Mart: 23.3 ppg
D-Whistle: 25.3 ppg (he is only 2 points better K-Mart)

**Bonus: Free Throws**

FTAs
K-Mart: 401 FTAs, shooting 88% (in 46 games)
D-Whistle: 390 FTAs, shooting 73.1% (in 42 games)

FTMs/game
K-Mart: 8.7 (37.4% of his ppg)
D-Whistle: 9.3 (36.8% of his ppg)

In summary, D-Whistle is red hot at the rim and the free throw line. From 3pt land and just inside he is pathetic. D-Whistle has a reputation which gives him much leeway with the refs. Take away his shots at the rim and he is shooting a pathetic 36.8%. Problem is, he is strong, and the refs call "touch fouls" on him (no wonder he is 2nd in the league in FTAs - which is "impressive" for a shooting guard that can't shoot). Both D-Whistle and K-Mart get to the line a peculiar amount of times for shooting guards. I say this because they both shoot more per game than Kobe which is a joke in itself.

To answer Ace, K-Mart is not a superstar. But then again neither is D-Whistle without referee help. If the NBA outlawed dunking and "touch fouls," would we really be talking about this dude?

Here are my two sources:

Hot Spots and BSPN

So Martin is a better three point shooter and draws more fouls, while everywhere else Wade is much better. Thanks for spending your Sat night to tell us that.

BTW...
Kobe
PPG 25.1
APG 4.9
RPG 5
FG% 46
3pt% 30

Wade
PPG 25.3
APG 4.2
RPG 6.7
FG% 49
3pt% 30

Wade > Kobe

[TDMVPDPOY]

so where was kmart lastn night??

[Ace]

Ok, you got me. D-Whistle averages more points (+2), more rebounds (+3.7), more assists (+1.9), and more steals (+0.6) than K-Mart. Why? Because he dominates the ball and has more respect from the refs.

Dominating the ball is why he rebounds better, gets more assists and more steals?

K-Mart shoots at a better clip from 3pt land, "just inside 3pt land," mid range, and FT% - all these are tangible qualities of a true shooting guard's game. Another difference? D-Whistle is more aggressive and stronger than K-Mart. Touch fouls will inevitably turn into SportsCenter highlight dunks, FTAs, or And-1s. In other words, he will always get his points.

You didn't even understand the stats you spent your Saturday night looking up?

If we were comparing who the most explosive player is of the two, it's D-Whistle hands down. But when we talk about pure skill as a shooting guard, I'd take K-Mart over him. Just watch the two times they played Boston to see what I'm saying. In game one he was 4/16 (and people like to clown Kobe's 6/24 effort and ignore Kobe's 15 rebounds in that same game ). In game two he fared no better: 2/12 . I'm not the smartest dude, but that's a combined 6/28 . Why is this happening? Because he's a streaky outside shooter at best, he has a mediocre midrange game (but he can dunk!!) .

Your combining two games of shooting to compare to Kobe's one?

Truth be told, I'd be foolish to say D-Whistle is a scrub. He's far from it. It's just that he is not as good as people say he is. He'll get his points because he is aggressive and strong. He's 28. The clock is ticking on him playing his "smash mouth" style of basketball. He is very one dimensional. Once that athleticism is gone, so will myth that he is a true superstar.

You should watch more basketball and post less. This way you won't keep making a fool of yourself.

[Muser]

lol LkrFan

[Darkwaters]

Super star? No.

Alpha scorer? Yes.

[DaDakota]

Kevin Martin is fools gold, never has there been a guy that scores so well, be such a net zero towards winning.

He is great when things are well, and he has someone to create for him, but if you put anyone with any athleticism and concentration on him, he wilts.

I am hoping that Morey is able to flip him, for future picks as the Rockets overall would be better off without him.

DD

[loveThe23]

why? just curious

Probably his "ugly" jump shot, like everyone says. Doesn't bother me, but hey it goes in smoothly, so it doesn't matter.

@DaDakota, thank you, great post. The Rockets aren't tops in the west, but where would they be without Kevin? Honestly...

[DaDakota]

Look,

I am not saying he is terrible he is a star player, what I am saying is that since the Rox are going nowhere, it would be to their benefit to sell high on the guy....IMO.

DD