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misery loves company...
yeah but that's all negated by the fact that it's Cleveland. maybe the most miserable city in the country.
misery loves company...
Kobe is considered a shot hog and has managed almost 5 assists per game his entire career.
The assists are a reflection of his game. Dirk is not a great passer. The poster I was responding to had listed Magic and Bird as being poor on defense, but both of those guys made their team offenses noticeably better. If Dirk isn't scoring, he isn't helping his team, because other than being a phenomenal shooter/scorer (Bird was as well, mind you), Dirk doesn't do a lot on the offensive side of things.
KG is arguably the most versatile defender in nba history. He had small market Minny winning 45-55 games year in and year out...the most talented players he had alongside him were Spreewell and Casell, and he managed the #1 seed and WCF trip with them. Couldve gone farther if not for Casell's injury in the WCF, he was running the point that series against the Lakers. A typical season for KG in Minny was...25 ppg, 13 rpg, 5 apg, 2 spg. 1st team all-nba and all-defense year in and year out.
Just those things alone trump what Dirk has done. Add the ring he got with Boston where he served as the defensive anchor and it really isnt even that close. Yet you Mav s laught at the idea that KG > Dirk...lol.
you are just a nasty fungal wart on the nba forum's ass, tbh. us regulators should get some cream to clear your sorry ass up.
the truth hurts tbh, doesnt it ?
naw tbh, your posts belong in the proverbial toilet. every time i read one of your mediocre posts, i want to re injury my knee so the injury so the pain of the knee will overtake the pain of reading your posts.
stop
if there is a god, you are talking to yourself.
youre regulating me to the ground tbh
too bad the fact that kg > dirk remains, and theres nothing uve provided that proves otherwise.
provide these facts, chunky.youre regulating me to the ground tbh
too bad the fact that kg > dirk remains, and theres nothing uve provided that proves otherwise.
lol copy and paste from wikipedia
agree tyson, and if you'd take a second or two from plowing desert bro's wife, you would also know that this often gets caught putting from the rough, which is never an intelligent idea.
that little paragraph is enough tbh
stop regulating me tho, really stop it
so much regulation in this thread...
That's harsh.
ok, so I decided to take out KG's first season (he was 19, dirk entered the league at 20) and his last two (so the last season counted for KG is at age 32, dirk's current age). The result is a comparison age 20-32.
games played: +30 kg
minutes played: +2701 kg
pts scored: +1295 dirk
rebounds: +3187 kg
blocks: +579 kg
stl: +526 kg
assists: +1866 kg
this difference in games is small and it is fair for KG to have this advantage, both in games and minutes because it shows from age 20 - 32 he played more, either by being healthier, a better matchup, the best at his position for his team, etc.
dirk's scoring advantage becomes noticeable with this comparison. But look at the other advantages- they are practically the same.
dirk's scoring advantage: 6.5% of KG's total
kg rebounding advantage: 40% of dirk's total
kg block advantage: 60% of dirk's total
kg stl advantage: 60% of dirk's total
kg assist advantage: 74% of dirk's total
is that 6.5% extra production in scoring from dirk outweigh an average 59% extra production in reb, blk, stl, and assists from kg?
I think some people are letting their dislike for KG as a person cloud their judgement of him as a player. yes, dirk is the better scorer. but KG is far superior in every other measurable facet of the game. I can understand if you like dirk more, be it for BB IQ, leadership, classiness
Last edited by diego; 12-18-2010 at 04:30 AM.
ok, so I decided to take out KG's first season (he was 19, dirk entered the league at 20) and his last two (so the last season counted for KG is at age 32, dirk's current age). The result is a comparison age 20-32.
games played: +30 kg
minutes played: +2701 kg
pts scored: +1295 dirk
rebounds: +3187 kg
blocks: +579 kg
stl: +526 kg
assists: +1866 kg
this difference in games is small and it is fair for KG to have this advantage, both in games and minutes because it shows from age 20 - 32 he played more, either by being healthier, a better matchup, the best at his position for his team, etc.
dirk's scoring advantage becomes noticeable with this comparison. But look at the other advantages- they are practically the same.
dirk's scoring advantage: 6.5% of KG's total
kg rebounding advantage: 40% of dirk's total
kg block advantage: 60% of dirk's total
kg stl advantage: 60% of dirk's total
kg assist advantage: 74% of dirk's total
is that 6.5% extra production in scoring from dirk outweigh an average 59% extra production in reb, blk, stl, and assists from kg?
I think some people are letting their dislike for KG as a person cloud their judgement of him as a player. yes, dirk is the better scorer. but KG is far superior in every other measurable facet of the game. I can understand if you like dirk more, be it for BB IQ, leadership, classiness
Kevin Garnett is the better individual player. Look at what he did in Minnesota, singlehandedly taking a team to the West Finals, and periodical appearances in the playoffs akin to the Mavericks.
People dismiss KG's superiority over Dirk because he now plays on a team with a load of talent.
Case, closed.
dirk is 32 years old..if he doesn't get injured, he will play in the nba until he's 38, 39. he will move way up in the all-time scoring list. i can see him finish top 10 in the scoring list all-time, at least. if he can't win a ring with the mavs the next 4 years, he might go to a different team. if he joins the spurs or lakers late in his career and wins a ring with either one of those teams i bet many people who called him 'noringski' or 'choker' in this thread will suddenly become dirk suckers and wouldn't argue if someone brings up this argument again...
let him finish his career before you stomp on him...
got gasol is chasing dirk's ass but that's about it.
gasol is just a kobe side-kick. he will never be one of the all-time greats.
let him finish his career before deciding how many more pts he'll score and rings he'll win. as of now, he is not top 10 scoring, has no rings, and has had an inferior career to KG, whether you measure it by stats, individual awards or team awards. nobody is stomping him, he's still a great player
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DIRT AS TOP 10 all time ahhahhhahahahaahahahhahahahaa
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he will go down as the best european player and the best shooting 7 footer of all time that's for sure.
there's never been a player like him with the type of offensive skill set that he has. he's unique.
jordan and kobe are better players career-wise, but they're very similar too.
damn your wife is one ugly .
Dirt will go down as the best 7-foot shooter of all time.
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congradulations.
you wish you were married to such a hot little dish.
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