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  1. #101
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    eh, those of you doubting who won this deal, it was New York.

    A bunch of role players + a decent player who may or may not ever be anything in this league for Melo, Billups, and some role players?

    New York is now a permanent playoff team every single year... and a championship isn't out of the question depending on how well they round out the roster in the next 2-4 years.

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    A first round draft pick from the Nets stands a better chance at becoming a superstar than anyone they got from the Knicks does.
    Gallinari has great potential to be something special in this league. Mozgov has also proved himself and can turn into something special. Also, this years draft class is very weak. I definitely wouldn't trade proven players in Gallinari and Felton for a first round pick that will probably not even be a top 5 pick.

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    eh, those of you doubting who won this deal, it was New York.

    A bunch of role players + a decent player who may or may not ever be anything in this league for Melo, Billups, and some role players?

    New York is now a permanent playoff team every single year... and a championship isn't out of the question depending on how well they round out the roster in the next 2-4 years.
    MH with the goods, tbh.

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    eh, those of you doubting who won this deal, it was New York.

    A bunch of role players + a decent player who may or may not ever be anything in this league for Melo, Billups, and some role players?

    New York is now a permanent playoff team every single year... and a championship isn't out of the question depending on how well they round out the roster in the next 2-4 years.
    Better than watching him walk like Cleveland did. They had to get something. Should of got rid of Harrington though.

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    That would be re ed by Denver to send 2 of those guys to New Jersey IMO. If I'm Denver I definitely want to keep all those guys except maybe Chandler
    Not really. Mozgov is a non-issue. Denver has a lot of wings. If they can get a 1st rounder and/or Favors for a package of Mozgov/Chandler, I think that is better overall.

    Not quite as good short term, but that NJ pick is going to be top 10.

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    eh, those of you doubting who won this deal, it was New York.

    A bunch of role players + a decent player who may or may not ever be anything in this league for Melo, Billups, and some role players?

    New York is now a permanent playoff team every single year... and a championship isn't out of the question depending on how well they round out the roster in the next 2-4 years.
    The Knicks definitely won the deal, but the Nuggets should still feel pretty good for making the best of a bad situation.

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    Does Billups' contract expire after the season?

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    eh, those of you doubting who won this deal, it was New York.

    A bunch of role players + a decent player who may or may not ever be anything in this league for Melo, Billups, and some role players?

    New York is now a permanent playoff team every single year... and a championship isn't out of the question depending on how well they round out the roster in the next 2-4 years.
    Clearly New York got the better end of the trade, but equally clearly, Walsh would have gotten the deal done and still had Chandler or Gallinari to move for another upgrade. Denver was in no position to dictate the terms of the deal. James Dolan is now officially the stupidest owner in the league.

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    eh, those of you doubting who won this deal, it was New York.

    A bunch of role players + a decent player who may or may not ever be anything in this league for Melo, Billups, and some role players?

    New York is now a permanent playoff team every single year... and a championship isn't out of the question depending on how well they round out the roster in the next 2-4 years.
    The winner of the trade is meaningless to me, but you have to consider the cir stances..Denver was never going to receive "equal value" for Carmelo, especially since his contract is going to expire at the end of the year(barring the extension, obviously)..

    The Nuggets did as well as they could have hoped for..obviously they aren't going to be as good as the Knicks, now or in the future, so I don't know why anybody would believe that, but they set themselves up nicely to become a perennial playoff team, instead of the Cavs(which might not be a good thing, since they will miss out on high lottery picks, but some teams prefer competing)..

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    Does Billups' contract expire after the season?
    I believe he has next year under contract

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    Not really. Mozgov is a non-issue. Denver has a lot of wings. If they can get a 1st rounder and/or Favors for a package of Mozgov/Chandler, I think that is better overall.

    Not quite as good short term, but that NJ pick is going to be top 10.
    If Favors is rumored to be in the deal then that's different. I would do that but I wouldn't get rid of Gallinari and/or Felton for a 1st rounder in a pretty weak draft.

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    So does Donnie Walsh has his days numbered in NY?

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    Why do the Nuggets want to make the playoffs in my question? Wouldn't they prefer a lottery pick?

    Sure Denver might not be Cleveland because they got some decent players back, but what is the point of being a middle of the road team with no Superstar? Do they plan or trying to sign someone through free agency in a year or two? Do they have the cap space to do that? If not shouldn't they be looking towards the lottery instead?
    Last edited by Ice009; 02-21-2011 at 11:05 PM.

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    Gallinari has great potential to be something special in this league. Mozgov has also proved himself and can turn into something special. Also, this years draft class is very weak. I definitely wouldn't trade proven players in Gallinari and Felton for a first round pick that will probably not even be a top 5 pick.
    Gallos upside is a 3rd option. Mozgov's upside is a solid starting center.

    Denver did a good job of getting something for Melo but they're worse off after this deal then before.

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    MH but Denver did what was in their best interest and they got good value. Better than nothing in return.

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    So does Donnie Walsh has his days numbered in NY?
    No way he comes back. I could see him resigning soon if he is mad enough.

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    Clearly New York got the better end of the trade, but equally clearly, Walsh would have gotten the deal done and still had Chandler or Gallinari to move for another upgrade. Denver was in no position to dictate the terms of the deal. James Dolan is now officially the stupidest owner in the league.
    you are absolutely right. but what can we say about a knicks front office that STILL asks isiah thomas for advice?


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    So the Nuggs are like 2 deep in every position?

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    Gallinari has great potential to be something special in this league. Mozgov has also proved himself and can turn into something special. Also, this years draft class is very weak. I definitely wouldn't trade proven players in Gallinari and Felton for a first round pick that will probably not even be a top 5 pick.
    You're a lot higher on Gallinari than I am. I can see him being a really good player, maybe even one who can make an all-star team, but not someone you can build a team around.

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    Pretty good haul for Denver considering they were going to lose him anyways

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    Gallos upside is a 3rd option. Mozgov's upside is a solid starting center.

    Denver did a good job of getting something for Melo but they're worse off after this deal then before.
    Well yeah they just lost a top 10 player in the game but I thought they did a nice job of what they are receiving in return.

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    Why do the Nuggets want to make the playoffs in my question. Wouldn't they prefer a lottery pick.
    If I were them I would, but you can't come out and publicly admit that.

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    So the Nuggs are like 2 deep in every position?
    Their like the Houston Rockets. A lot of talent with nowhere to go.

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    James Dolan is now officially the stupidest owner in the league.
    He's held that le for quite some time now. Sterling is the most de able, but Dolan is the stupidest.

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    After seeing this... Toronto should have traded Bosh last year.. can't believe they didn't pull the trigger.

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