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    My position has not moved. I would not have traded Parker . Quit twisting the argument to something that it is not. I am just pointing out that you making the claim that the spurs did not have any assets to get Wallace is ridiculous.
    Those were your words, not mine. Now you've moved to "they had assets that I would not have used". THAT's PRECISELY THE POINT. To make a better offer than Atlanta did, the Spurs would have been required to trade players (like Parker) that would have resulted in the trade being a net negative, so they didn't have the assets to make the trade. They could have also gotten Wallace for Duncan, but I assumed you weren't going to be that silly. I assumed we had at least one point of agreement that didn't need to spelled out, that is that the Spurs wouldn't make a trade that clearly made the team worse. I know you don't like where this leaves you, but that's what happens when you make ridiculous, unsupportable assertions. They're easily deconstructed.


    They could have gotten him from Atlanta for scrubs with expiring contracts because that is all Atlanta wanted back. They would have had to move Rasho to another team looking for a big in a 3 team deal like Detroit pulled off for an expiring. Then package that with mercer and Turkoglu to get Wallace or some type of deal like that.
    So now you need another mythical trade as a prerequisite for your previous mythical trade. Remember that Detroit had to pay Boston with a first round pick to take a player with one year remaining on his contact. Rasho had five years left on his. Why would any team give up an expiring contract to take on a scrub with 5 years and 35 million dollars left on his contract? It's absurd.

    On top of all that, Detroit sent Milwaukee's mid-first round pick to Atlanta.

    So even if you make the mythical Rasho trade to get an another expiring contract, Detroit still trumps the deal by having a much better first round pick to send to Atlanta along with their scrubs.

    This isn't going well for you, but feel free to keep trying.
    Last edited by Mel_13; 02-27-2011 at 01:29 PM.

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    Exactly as I say. This man types one ing word on ST and everybody replies. Literally he is a god.


    To bad nobody likes him.
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    I would recommend that you all put this Sequspur kid on your ignore list.

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    Those were your words, not mine. Now you've moved to "they had assets that I would not have used". THAT's PRECISELY THE POINT. To make a better offer than Atlanta did, the Spurs would have been required to trade players (like Parker) that would have resulted in the trade being a net negative, so they didn't have the assets to make the trade. They could have also gotten Wallace for Duncan, but I assumed you weren't going to be that silly. I assumed we had at least one point of agreement that didn't need to spelled out, that is that the Spurs wouldn't make a trade that clearly made the team worse. I know you don't like where this leaves you, but that's what happens when you make ridiculous, unsupportable assertions. They're easily deconstructed.




    So now you need another mythical trade as a prerequisite for your previous mythical trade. Remember that Detroit had to pay Boston with a first round pick to take a player with one year remaining on his contact. Rasho had five years left on his. Why would any team give up an expiring contract to take on a scrub with 5 years and 35 million dollars left on his contract? It's absurd.

    On top of all that, Detroit sent Milwaukee's mid-first round pick to Atlanta.

    So even if you make the mythical Rasho trade to get an another expiring contract, Detroit still trumps the deal by having a much better first round pick to send to Atlanta along with their scrubs.

    This isn't going well for you, but feel free to keep trying.
    Then send Atlanta a 2nd 1st round future pick.

    Even had the spurs been agressive and sent the offer first Atlanta may have taken it just to get Wallace out of the East. You never know what would have happened all we know is that it didn't happen. There was no indication that an attempt was even made to acquire Wallace. Often rumors get out when teams have high trade interests.

    I dont believe it was impossible to get Wallace had the Spurs wanted Wallace.
    There was no indication that the spurs had any interest in Wallace in 2004. The spurs had some interest in 2009 to get Wallace but that was after he went to Detroit and proved that he could help a team to a le. They should have seen that before in 2004.

    The spurs don't like to take many risks and that has lead to missed opportunites to add that big impact player who could get the spurs over the top, examples Sprewell, Barkley, V Carter, Wallace.

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    I would recommend that you all put this Sequspur kid on your ignore list.
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