Trump Tells Obama to Show the Birth Certificate

[Parker2112]

You can refuse to piss in a bottle.

Then you would no longer be an applicant.

[PublicOption]

Education for jackasses:[/LIST]

head if he father resided here for school, or work and his mother is from Kansas he still and American by parents.

not to mention the fact you ignorant bas , he was born in Honolulu, HI.
in 1961.


I think Hawaii is state of the U.S.A.

so he is a citizen by birth and by blood......what an asshole.

[ChumpDumper]

Education for jackasses:

Whichever jackass wrote that was very wrong.

[MannyIsGod]

Then you would no longer be an applicant.

And?

[Parker2112]

head if he father resided here for school, or work and his mother is from Kansas he still and American by parents.

not to mention the fact you ignorant bas , he was born in Honolulu, HI.
in 1961.


I think Hawaii is state of the U.S.A.

so he is a citizen by birth and by blood......what an asshole.

cover up, your bloomers are showing

[Parker2112]

Whichever jackass wrote that was very wrong.

Educate yourself: look up the difference between prima facie and conclusive evidence.

With this in your belt, you'll go far in understanding this issue... beyond just owning an opinion.

[ChumpDumper]

Educate yourself: look up the difference between prima facie and conclusive evidence.

With this in your belt, you'll go far in understanding this issue... beyond just owning an opinion.

Look up prima facie again.

For the first time.

And I wasn't even talking about that. Educate yourself about your own post I linked. And I don't mean copy a post from the abovetopsecret forums that was completely wrong.

[ChumpDumper]

OK, Parker. Tell me: What evidence do you have to contradict the prima facie evidence that is Obama's birth certificate?

[Parker2112]

Look up prima facie again.

For the first time.

And I wasn't even talking about that. Educate yourself about your own post I linked. And I don't mean copy a post from the abovetopsecret forums that was completely wrong.

i dont have to look it up. it means on its face. It creates a presumption. But it is rebuttable. Conclusive evidence is not rebuttable.

You could rebut a valid certification of live birth. You cant rebut a valid birth certificate.
..its conclusive. You can only attack its authenticity.

Think this through, Chump.

[Parker2112]

OK, Parker. Tell me: What evidence do you have to contradict the prima facie evidence that is Obama's birth certificate?

I dont need to be arguing this in an internet discussion.

THATS THE WHOLE DAMN POINT.

Give me conclusive or give me death.

[Wild Cobra]

Parker, for being a self described libertarian, how does "guilty until proven innocent" fit into your beliefs?

[Parker2112]

Parker, for being a self described libertarian, how does "guilty until proven innocent" fit into your beliefs?

dont even get me started on "self-described libertarian" WC...you need to turn in your libertarian card last week

[ChumpDumper]

I dont need to be arguing this in an internet discussion.

THATS THE WHOLE DAMN POINT.

Give me conclusive or give me death.

So you don't have anything to contradict the prima facie evidence.

That's the whole damn point.

Does this mean you are going to kill yourself now?

[Wild Cobra]

dont even get me started on "self-described libertarian" WC...you need to turn in your libertarian card last week

Just answer the part about your concept of guilty until proven innocent. You know, that's one reason we had the revolutionary war.

[Oh, Gee!!]

I hate to get all metaphysical, but wouldn't conclusive evidence for any person be first-hand experience?

[Parker2112]

So you don't have anything to contradict the prima facie evidence.

That's the whole damn point.

Does this mean you are going to kill yourself now?

If eligibility comes into question, our elected officials should be more than happen to piss in the bottle. We the public should be more than justified in asking for the piss test, and waiting on the results. And they should provide it with a smile.

And if you claim the burden is on the taxpayer to prove ineligibility (which only a brainwashed sheep would do), then you your argument harder, because the public has no acces to this do ent, and Obama and the govt do. Burden on them again. Let he with access be made to prove the matter.

And by your argument, public policy would be undermined completely, because govt officials could game the system all day every day.

Brainwashed and ed-by-gov always your motto, Chump?

[Parker2112]

I hate to get all metaphysical, but wouldn't conclusive evidence for any person be first-hand experience?

In court, a judge is bound in certain cirumstances to instruct the jury that it MUST find certain facts as true. That is conclusive evidence.

[Parker2112]

Just answer the part about your concept of guilty until proven innocent. You know, that's one reason we had the revolutionary war.

this isn't a criminal charge.

[Wild Cobra]

I hate to get all metaphysical, but wouldn't conclusive evidence for any person be first-hand experience?

You're right, and that's why Parker will never be satisfied.

[Wild Cobra]

this isn't a criminal charge.

Agreed. However, the way you carry on about it, it may as well be. Besides, your notion that he must prove he is a citizen equates to he must prove he didn't conspire in a crime of forgery or worse.

[Oh, Gee!!]

In court, a judge is bound in certain cirumstances to instruct the jury that it MUST find certain facts as true. That is conclusive evidence.

wouldn't the same be true for "un-rebutted" prima facie evidence?

[ChumpDumper]

wouldn't the same be true for "un-rebutted" prima facie evidence?

We have a winner.

lol brainwashed

lol sheep

lol wake up

[PublicOption]

I hate to get all metaphysical, but wouldn't conclusive evidence for any person be first-hand experience?

Yeah, if none of us were there for the birth itself, it will always be in doubt and douchbag who started this thread will never be satisfied. tinfoil hats for everyone, because NONE of us witnessed the ACTUAL birth.