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    I'm not sure many of you have an idea of how "easy" rebuilding is. Unless you are transitioning from one top 5-10 player to another or you still have a top 5 player to build around (see what you guys did between championships) it can take years. You are not going to get big name free agents.. so you're left to the draft. You can suck ass as bad as you think you can and you will still have 6 teams worse than you. There are bad teams.. bad. Unless you are tanking in the teens as far as wins and pick to do it on a year where there is a sure fire hall of famer (example not this year) it takes a very long time.

    Rebuilding is not fun.. unless you think watching bad basketball and racking up losses is fun.
    Bingo.

    I'd rather see the Big 3 go down guns blazing in the WCSF or WCF than to watch a George Hill/DeJuan Blair PnR all season long and hope we draft another Tim Duncan to end up with Hasheem Thabeet.

    Manu/Duncan have a couple years left. I'd like to see them retire as Spurs and enjoy every last minute til they hang them up.

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    I'm not sure many of you have an idea of how "easy" rebuilding is. Unless you are transitioning from one top 5-10 player to another or you still have a top 5 player to build around (see what you guys did between championships) it can take years. You are not going to get big name free agents.. so you're left to the draft. You can suck ass as bad as you think you can and you will still have 6 teams worse than you. There are bad teams.. bad. Unless you are tanking in the teens as far as wins and pick to do it on a year where there is a sure fire hall of famer (example not this year) and don't get ed by the lotto balls.. it takes a very long time.

    Rebuilding is not fun.. unless you think watching bad basketball and racking up losses is fun.
    Doesn't matter if its fun or not. Only way back to another ring. Fun or not, its reality.

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    Obviously.. I was giving that comment more so to the individuals in the begining that said that they were looking forward to it. It's nothing to look forward.. Look how long it took the Celtics to get back.. took the pistons 14 years.. look at the Knicks and you would think they wouldn't have big problems because they are a big market. I just don't see how someone can say they are looking forward to it.

    Unless you really love watching prospects.. or you can't wait to have that nostalgic feeling about how good it was in 2011 or whatever.. Piston fans called for the same thing. After ever confrence final lost they yelled "break up the team".. well they did.. and the sucks.. Gets you maybe one good prospect to watch on your team and the draft lotto circled on your calandar hoping that you can pull the first pick out of your ass.

    Like I said.. look at boston.. look at the bulls.. look at my team.. then ask yourself if you look forward to this and really think it will be only a couple of years transition.

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    Ride the into the ground.. if you are going to crash, crash hard.. nothing worse then being mediocre or below average..

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    "The future" needed to be "the present". Splitter will be good as soon as Holt fires Poppazit and gets a coach who will actually use him over a 3pt chucking ginger boy
    about 90 percent of spurstalk posters here share that belief and wanted it happening this season. From March onwards , Tiago looked comfortable out there. The clumsy and confused side of his game was gone .

    Pop changing the rotation with splitter involved for game 5 and 6 you could say was an admittance of sorts.

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    NO DUNCAN RETIRE!!!!!!

    less money, less playing time, less offensive contribution, and move him to a true center role.

    Defense, shot blocking, and rebounding.

    He is still a valuable player

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    umm retire duncan, trade parker.....

    so where is gino in the headline? nothing beats opening a can of worms for the attention of CoP supporters

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    Trading Duncan would be about as classless as anything I can imagine.

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    keep Manu as your center piece


    You can't be serious!

    Do you want to see him die on the floor on day or what?

    I say keep the big3, even if 2 of them will never be as good as they once been, THEY ARE OUR LAST PROBLEM !!!!!!!!!!!!

    + I wanna see them retire as a spur, we owe them that!

    We won 61 games with no center no backup PG and no decent wing player...
    That should tell you how the big3 are good enough (to "compensate" the lacks of this team).

    Let's not get too emotional.

    - MJ's Bulls is the only team in the history that won without a dominant big!
    (for ex, Rodman was just on the defensive end)...

    - No team has ever won with their major asset being the 3s...

    Duncan is still the smartest player in nba, can be more than usefull on the denfensive end (without being alone in the post), has a unique leasership that gives his teamates confidense (see the 6 games losing streak)...
    + He is the franchise, period.

    Manu (with fresh legs) is the best "x factor" in the leaque, if he can be used wisely and not carry the same load as this year, he's still a top 5 SG in the league and the best at the line in clutch (whitch is huge)...
    Losing him would mean losing some magic and it's the hardest thing to find, any team in the league would kill to have him as a 25-30 min player.

    Tony is just 29 and not as "burned" as most of the league (and spurs fans) thought at the begining of the season, even if he won't get faster, he hasn't slowed that much and will always be above average in that matter, +steve nash is the best example to prove that you don't need to be among the fastest to score "easy" layups if you're smart and has a special talent at it. Tony will always be efficient in that area and will keep improving his J because he's smart and knows it's the only way he'll be able to extend his carreer.
    It won't be easy to find a good PG who accepts the role/tasks that Pop asked Tony to do, he has shown he can put his ego asside for the better of the team, this year unselfishness at shot taken/game proves it, so unless you can get Paul, Williams or Rose, you don't let Parker go...

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    The Spurs have to acquire an all-star big via trade and sign a quality wing defender for the MLE. This team is redundant in talent at SG/SF positions.

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    Rebuilding won't happen till 2012 offseason. Duncan will retire and Pop with him. I can see Parker getting dealt then too. Not sure about Manu. Talking of rebuilding now is premature and you should kindly GTFO of Spurstalk.

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    Spurfan awaiting Duncan to retire is the biggest ing load of I've ever read on this entire forum since I been posting here.

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    The Lakers became relevant again when and after Kobe cried and Demanded the Lakers F.O. to sign quality role players (or else!), something that Tim Duncan didn't do. Sometimes Timmy was too fundamental, too much of a nice guy for his own good. Even now, Duncan has the opportunity to offer the F.O. an ultimatum; Get me some help in here or I am out!

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    ducan would be a great back up?its time for duncan to come off the bench but spurs need a gifted big to take over for tim....I like splitter but he isn't that good of an offensive player....maybe im wrong maybe he will play better next season if theres a next season....but for sure spurs need to get stronger and tougher guys....bonner and rj don't cut it....parker?I still like parker but I also think its time spurs get better at pg by getting a decent back up for tony parker..spurs don't need make trades....tweaks but no major trades and I doubt spurs make major trades

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    If Dwight Howard does not accept the Magic's contract extension should we take him for one year then he can leave if he wants but we can at least try to win one last championship?

    Magic get:
    -Richard Jefferson
    -George Hill
    -Dejuan Blair
    -Tiago Splitter

    Spurs get:
    -Dwight Howard

    Works on ESPN trade machine

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    The Lakers became relevant again when and after Kobe cried and Demanded the Lakers F.O. to sign quality role players (or else!), something that Tim Duncan didn't do. Sometimes Timmy was too fundamental, too much of a nice guy for his own good. Even now, Duncan has the opportunity to offer the F.O. an ultimatum; Get me some help in here or I am out!
    To step up he should take a pay cut and maybe add an additional year to his contract. That would tell me he wants to win again. But if he stays put and makes his 20mil next season then help won't come. He's worth the money based on past play.

    Its difficult enough to lure players to play in San Antonio.

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