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  1. #101
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    Good lord, you can use that argument to justify anything on defense. But you NEVER saw guys like Barkley, Rambis, Bird, etc., go after someone 14 inches shorter and 100 pounds under their own weight unless the other guy got in their face first.

    Do you advocate a player putting his career on the line just to drive into the paint? Please explain to me how this is an example of skilled basketball.
    Basketball isn't just about the ability to shoot or dribble. It's also a physical game, like hockey without skates. Maybe watch Euroleague?

    This is why teams bring in the Horrys, Rasheeds and Artests (and Bowens).

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    Team Six should snipe his ass and bury him at sea... I mean... he hit JJ Barea!

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    Team Six probably killed some of Barea's relatives not too long ago.

    Let's be honest. It was a hard foul, but Barea acted a lot. You don't continue to play if you cannot get up after that shot. It's typical NBA acting, like WWE. Had Bynum given him the Stone Cold Stunner, I might think differently.

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    Calling you a moron isn't an ad hominem, neat job trying to sound smart like when you said the Mavs are a profitable team.
    Actually, it is. Ad hominem means attacking the proponents of the claim rather than the claim itself. I'm sure you can figure whether what was said was ad hominem by yourself.

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    For the rest of you who don't think the foul is that bad, a post in the beginning of the thread showed 3 videos of Bynum pulling the same signature elbow move, one of which ended up fracturing gerald wallace's rib and collapsed his lung...

    When you're in the air, the slightest shove can alter the momentum of your body. When someone elbows you that hard in mid air, you'll drop to the ground in an instant.

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    It's a bad foul, no doubt. It's not the worst I've ever seen, not even close.

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    Big fine and long suspension.

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    Sorry, I was under the impression that basketball was a compe ion of skill. Not an arena for thugs to establish who could dish out more punishment and hurt the other team to win. Should a guy Barea's size have to worry about being able to walk for the next 3 months simply because he has an open lane and decides to take it? Is that your definition of basketball? Because to me, that's tantamount to a schoolyard bully situation where might makes right, and if you have anything to say about it you get handed a collapsed lung and wind up in the hospital.
    So you tell me. How many players in the history of the league. some 65 years or so, how many players have winded up in the hospital from said plays? The league was a LOT TOUGHER pre 2000 so I imagine the hospitals would have been crowded no? How come? Cause the little guys knew better than to go flying through the lane out of control mid air. Before you go all off, I am not suggesting that Barea was out of control and thats why i said Drew act was wrong.

    Do you realize how early Kobe Bryant's career would have ended if every opponent of the Lakers decided to punish him for getting into the lane, and put him horizontal in mid-air? I guarantee you he would have landed wrong, on his back or neck or arm and been done for a season or more at some point..
    Maybe you should pull out the tapes because I saw Kobe put on his back plenty of times. Especially during his first couple years. And, he has also benifitted from the "pussy" generation of rules.

    And a lot of old guys used to believe that blacks should play in a different league, and that intentionally breaking a man's ankle to prevent him from playing anymore was acceptable as well, does that make them right?.
    Using such an argument only shows ignorance. It has nothing to do with the topic.

    It used to be accepted practice that Ty Cobb would sharpen his ed cleats before each game and go sliding hard into second with his foot up. Baseball back then was a "man's" game where you could routinely throw at the head of another batter without cause for much more than a scrum. Should we go back to that as well? Or even more recent, how about the football of the past three decades (pre-2000s), back when it was a "man's game" and grabbing another man by his head and neck and throwing him down was considered a proper tackling technique?.
    You are bowing my comments way out of proportion. I did not condone cheating or trying to harm someone. I said Drews foul was in poor taste and a bush move. It's not all life threatening and family changing the way your pussies make it out. I have seen thousands of harder and more ill intent fouls. Give me a break. And yes, I believe baseball and football have pussified their rules as well. Don't you dare touch the quarterback. Dont you dare throw a brushback pitch and threate the battters ability to feed his family.


    Let me ask you this: If Bynum was so sore, why didn't he go after Chandler, or Dirk, or anyone even close to his size? Why did both he AND Artest single out the SMALLEST guy on the court (you'll note Artest did it in the open court, so it had nothing to do with "protecting the paint")? Do you think that's something the men of the past would have done to send a message? Because from what I've heard, they went after the biggest guy on the team they could find to pick a fight with. The only message you send by hurting the little guy is that "we're too scared to throw an elbow at anyone else". Can you imagine Barkley picking out the other team's backup point guard to attack? Yeah, no. That wouldn't happen, because back when the game was rough, guys went after men their own size instead of becoming a gigantic pussy and attacking the smallest guy they could find.
    Or maybe it's just as simple as Chandler and the others werent running all over the Lakers and embarrasing them. Odom and Drew apologized and explained that they we flustered and reacted poorly. BTW, funny you didnt mention Lamars which WAS against Dirk. Hmmmm

    Bottom line, and it's just my opinion, is that ALL sports and even more so the NBA are pussifying the games. Talk about comparing eras? No way to do that with all thise changes. Not that you ever could, but I think even you can understand what I am saying. It's all about the $$$ and nothing more. Do you think these commissioners and owners care about the players post career? It's been proven time and time again they don't. It's all about getting the most out of that piece of property they have and has nothing to do with the players long term prognosis with regards to injuries.

    The world has become pussified as we saw when people are actually concerned on how UBL was treated as we killed him. That sports should follow is no surprise to me. That people who probably have never played the game want to pussify it even more. Not surprising either...
    Last edited by cobbler; 05-10-2011 at 12:10 AM.

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    Cobbler defending a player that has repeatedly tried to kill other players..par/course for Cobbler, the man known for lying, defending welshers, defending rapists, defending racism, etc..

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    Cobbler defending a player that has repeatedly tried to kill other players..par/course for Cobbler, the man known for lying, defending welshers, defending rapists, defending racism, etc..
    Uh, pretty sure I said it was a bush league move. I am simply making a point that the leage has gone soft and IMO its not a good thing. Its a major reason you all have issues with the refs these days. All the flopping and acting has created an environment that makes it impossible to call a good and accurate game.

    Never defended welching, never defended a rapist, and have never defended racism. All lies on your part again as per usual. And again, instead of discussing the topic, you turn it personal towards me proving that I am still am under your sorry ass skin and going nowhere. I killed your "high horse" routine long ago OBSESSION boy. Try again...

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    If the league was as tough as the early part of the 10-11 season, Barea and Beasley would have had a collapsed lung and broken ribs.

    League went soft in a matter of months.

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