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    What's your take on this argument, besides reviewing poster's comments?
    I think Mexico's problems are mostly due to narcotics and political corruption -- not from Catholocism.

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    Mexico was a hole long before the Zetas.

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    I think Mexico's problems are mostly due to narcotics and political corruption -- not from Catholocism.
    Mexico was a 3rd world country way before narcotics was big business there.
    The 1940-1980 "Mexican Miracle" was overshadowed by social inequality and authoritarian and oppressive ruling.

    The point is, catholic moral values never did for Mexico, not for the better and not for the worse. It's actually quite telling that a lot of Mexicans migrate to a country like the US which never had the majority of catholics (to the percentage it is amongst Mexicans), but they obviously regarded as a superior country.

    In a nuts , if catholic moral values had such an influence over a country doing good or bad, then Mexico would've been a 1st world country a lot sooner than the US.

    So, in part, I agree with your statement.

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    Mexico was a hole long before the Zetas.
    3 re s and counting. Anyone else?

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    3 re s and counting. Anyone else?
    Your ignorant ass can count? Did you find a youtube that explained the concept to you?

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    Somewhat extant semi-nuclear families do provide individuals with some level of support, not just economic, but psychological as well. The atomization of the individual in Western culture, seen as a good thing by many, has led to man being alienated from himself and his nature. Whereas before religion and family provided bulwarks against man facing life alone against a society dominated by the state and corporation, man in his wisdom has eliminated those as legitimate sources of allegiance. Fully perfect rational economic man has managed to eliminate his humanity.

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    Your ignorant ass can count? Did you find a youtube that explained the concept to you?
    He can always ask god to come down and count for him, kinda like Goodhair

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    He can always ask god to come down and count for him, kinda like Goodhair
    Jesus ain't down: algebra came from Islam.

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    Atheists weren't the people who helped abolish slavery. What group did? And for what reasons?

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    Atheists weren't the people who helped abolish slavery. What group did? And for what reasons?
    Politicians? In order to turn the American Civil war into a racial war?

    Christians didn't own slaves and thought it was right?

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    I did not really care one way or another about this event because I knew that it was not really a religious event but actually just another use of Christian believers by the political right- specifically by Perry to set the stage for a possible Presidential run.

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    When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)

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    When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)

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    Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5 NLT)

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    Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed. If your master is a Christian, that is no excuse for being disrespectful. You should work all the harder because you are helping another believer by your efforts. Teach these truths, Timothy, and encourage everyone to obey them. (1 Timothy 6:1-2 NLT)

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    God must've been really mad when slavery ended... all those wasted instructions...

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    There's lots OT crazy stuff that Bible-thumping literalists just ignore.

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    Politicians? In order to turn the American Civil war into a racial war?

    Christians didn't own slaves and thought it was right?
    some argentine guy trying to spout that American history

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    When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)
    Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5 NLT)















    using a bible from 1996 yeah that version was really used to keep the slaves under foot. Now we just need to find their time machine they used to get it.

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    some argentine guy trying to spout that American history
    Part of becoming a citizen in this country is learning it's history. Lincoln et all. Do you have a different version of events you want to share with us?





    using a bible from 1996 yeah that version was really used to keep the slaves under foot. Now we just need to find their time machine they used to get it.
    What does your version of the Bible says about treating slaves?

    lol @ pretending christians weren't slave owners...

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    The reality is that there's plenty of successful people that come from divorced families, and there's plenty of catholic ups too.
    Agreed...but you're missing the point here...this thread isn't about making fun of atheists...this thread was started by people making fun of Christians. And yet it's the atheists complaining in this thread. The atheists are laughing at the Christians, and suing the Christians for wanting to talk about their God, but if Christians say one word about the atheists in a negative tone, they're up in arms.

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    Agreed...but you're missing the point here...this thread isn't about making fun of atheists...this thread was started by people making fun of Christians. And yet it's the atheists saying "haha..he's praying.." "he's praying...we should sue him." but yet if Christians say one negative word about atheists they're all up in arms.
    I have no problem with whatever whoever wants to believe. Stated as much.

    But if you think for a second Darrin isn't trying to wedge the 'atheists is what's really wrong with this country', you would be wrong.

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    Oh, and I can't wait for Cobra Commander "I only follow the ancient scriptures" meme.

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    Part of becoming a citizen in this country is learning it's history. Lincoln et all. Do you have a different version of events you want to share with us?
    yes and unfortunately passing a test doesn't make you an expert on the abolitionist movement. For example did you know the last slaves to be freed were the ones in the union states cause they weren't covered by the emancipation proclimation? Lol having to pass a test to be a citizen
    What does your version of the Bible says about treating slaves?

    lol @ pretending christians weren't slave owners...
    Who is pretending christians weren't slave owners?

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    yes and unfortunately passing a test doesn't make you an expert on the abolitionist movement. For example did you know the last slaves to be freed were the ones in the union states cause they weren't covered by the emancipation proclimation? Lol having to pass a test to be a citizen
    Yes I was aware, which is exactly why I pointed out the emancipation proclamation was more a political act than anything else.
    It wasn't until the 13th amendment that slavery was completely abolished.

    My interest for parts of American history goes beyond the citizen's test. But I do have to say that the test has forced me to expand even more.

    I have no problem taking the test, tbh. I'm a curious cat, so I welcome learning more about the country I call home these days.

    look up verse uses "servants" not "slaves," what now? Who is pretending christians weren't slave owners
    Darrin is trying to tell us how compassionate christians were solely responsible for ending slavery. I'm sorry, I should've pointed out that comment wasn't aimed at you.

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