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This sounds remarkably like what al-Assad is saying whats going on in Syria.
Either that or its a population that is tired of seeing the only en lements that are not cut being that of the so called elites. Tired of the supply side lie of the last 40 years.
Thanks for the ignorant sociological lesson, btw. You don't know about child rearing and even less about that subject so just stop.
This sounds remarkably like what al-Assad is saying whats going on in Syria.
"you can bet your ass that you will see this in major US urban areas as well."
I wouldn't bet anybody's ass. Americans are too TV-dumbed-down, "cowed sheeple", fat, diseased, conformist, scared to be different or think independent thoughts.
Red, poor, rural America, a Repug heartland, gets screwed by the Repug debt deal, and will get screwed more by every new Repug cut, but will keep voting for the Repugs to keep screwing them, because the Repugs say they are "good Christian, God-fearin', Baby-Jesus-lovin', born-again, prayin' people".
Here's persistent VRWC/stink tank "cottage industry" agitating against any "community organizing", which certainly include political demonstrations, even peaceful ones, against the VRWC screwing the lower 95% and "death panelling" the poorest.
All Alinsky, All The Time
http://mediamatters.org/print/blog/201108100006
And we know America's Mayer Guiliani had his "America's cops" spread out all over USA to spy on anti-war, anti-Repug demonstrators that might show up at the 2004 Repug nominating convention.
USA is too much of a high-tech, organized, connected, militarized police state, supported by VRWC and UCA, to allow any kind of political uprising or even peaceful political demonstrations. Any such groups are infiltrated by spies and moles and agitators.
The pro-corporate tea baggers/BecKKK have a demonstration, it makes the corporate news. Anti-corporate libs/progressives have a demonstration, it's nowhere in the corporate news.
America is so ed it doesn't even realize it, which is exactly how the UCA/capitalists want it. dumbed down, complacent sheeple voting against their own best interests (ie, for the Repugs and Blue Dogs).
Last edited by boutons_deux; 08-11-2011 at 05:45 AM.
But the UCA knows it's ing people hard and deep, and sorta kinda expects to be attacked, so is hiring protection (lots of ex-military love to kill Americans as much as they love killin sand s), but I really expect having having security guards is simply a demonstration of wealth and power (like Lewis Black's "private ball washer") rather than real fear:
Rich Executives Spend Millions For Bodyguards To Guard Them From Populist Anger
http://www.alternet.org/module/printversion/151946
Sums up the positions here:
Could the London Riots Happen in the US?
Writing in the Guardian, Aditya Chakrabortty says that analysis of the political reaction to the riots suggests that it is “simplistic and partisan”:
If you’re a left-winger, the causes of the violence and looting are straight-forward: they’re the result of monstrous inequality and historic spending cuts; while the youth running amok through branches of JD Sports are what happens when you offer a generation plastic consumerism rather than meaningful jobs.
For the right, explaining the violence is even simpler – because any attempt at understanding is tantamount to condoning it. Better by far to talk of a society with a sense of over-en lement; or to do what the prime minister did yesterday and simply dismiss “pockets of our society that are not just broken but, frankly, sick”.
Read more: http://www.care2.com/causes/could-th...#ixzz1UifRvGv0
Coulter Suggests Mass Murder As A Way To "Save England From Itself"
A few well-placed rifle rounds, and the rioting would end in an instant. A more sustained attack on the rampaging mob might save England from itself, finally removing shaved-head, drunken parasites from the benefits rolls that Britain can't find the will to abolish on moral or utilitarian grounds. We can be sure there's no danger of killing off the next Winston Churchill or Edmund Burke in these crowds.
http://mediamatters.org/blog/2011081...County+Fair%29
I think this girl explains it best
No way that happens in the US. Besides of the militarized police here, the first night that happens those guys get rounded up and sent to Gitmo after being charged with terror crimes.
I emphatically beg to differ with you.
40+ years ago, National Guardsman machine gunned Watts women, cutting off their legs at the knees, for making of with TVs and stuff.
Coulter is right. This isn't political, it's a bunch of punkass es rioting and looting because they can get away with it. They need to just announce that the rioting ends TODAY and if you come back tomorrow we will shoot you down in the streets like the mad dogs you are.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...o-go-home.html
London riots: 'Bleeding, I called 999. A tired man told me to go home'
Andrew Gilligan reports on his own experiences of the lawlessness that swept across much of London and elsewhere.
By Andrew Gilligan7:30AM BST 10 Aug 2011679 Comments
It was one of those microseconds when you know exactly what is about to happen, without the slightest chance of stopping it.
The big black boy rode his bike straight at me, crashing me off my own and leaving us both tangled up on the ground. Then four more of them were racing towards me, clawing at my legs to get them off my bike, kicking me in the head as I tried to hold on. Two minutes later, it was all over. Ten minutes later, no doubt, it was being used to loot a newsagent’s.
Bleeding a little, I thought I might as well call 999. It was a recorded message. After four and a half minutes, a tired man answered. “There’s nothing we can do,” he said. “You know what’s going on. We have to give priority to saving people’s lives. I suggest you just go home.”
He was right, of course. I was in Hackney - which, that evening at least, was a law-free zone. That’s the worst thing about riots. Across much of London on Monday night, if someone had decided to break down your door and rape your daughter, there would have been nothing to stop them. There would have been no one to call.
When I was mugged, I was on my way home from a day in Tottenham, listening to the stories of the people who had lost far more and been at far greater risk than me, burned out of their homes at 30 seconds’ notice.
They called 999 too, frantically, desperately, as the riot moved closer. There were 100 police just up the road. The emergency operator could do nothing but listen to their terror.
I finished my journey in a cab. Three or four times, we had to stop and skirt round hooded boys spilling into the road, our windows closed and the door lock on. If they had fancied my taxi, there would have been nothing I or the driver could have done about that, either.
Even on Monday, the victims of Tottenham, black and white, were already tired of outsiders blaming racism, police brutality, or cuts. (What were they rioting about in prosperous, suburban Enfield – rising season-ticket prices?) The real reason for the rioters’ behaviour is much simpler: because they can.
Forget BlackBerry Messenger. After seeing — on television — how much leeway the looters of Tottenham were allowed, every criminal and every excitement-seeking child in London took note.
By the next day, critical mass had been achieved. Disorder had erupted on a scale much more difficult to suppress than the original outbreak.
There are, and always have been, plenty of people keen to break the law. On my taxi ride, I saw many other youngsters in twos and threes, hoods up, looking for the next crowd to join.
These are sights, with variations, that I have seen in foreign conflict zones: the loss of state authority and the loss of individual inhibition from being in a big group. But in London, the geography of fear is particularly potent.
Unlike Los Angeles or Paris, the riots are not happening in ghettos where nobody goes. They are happening amid the organic gastropubs and latte bars. Alongside poverty, inner London is full of the sort of middle-class progressives who agree with Ken Livingstone that the rioters “feel no one at the top of society, in government or City Hall, cares about them or speaks for them”.
I predict a lot of those people, as they cower behind their sash windows, are revising their views tonight. The hardening of liberal opinion in London is palpable, and is taking even the likes of Boris Johnson by surprise.
In my neighbourhood, Greenwich, they boarded up the shops at noon. God knows how much damage this is doing to the economy. It’s a beautiful, sunny evening. But our area is empty, like so much of inner London, as we wait in our homes with the TVs on to discover if they will be coming for us tonight.
"This isn't political,"
UK Riots Reflect a Society Run on Greed and Looting
It is essential for those in power in Britain that the riots now sweeping the country can have no cause beyond feral wickedness. This is nothing but "criminality, pure and simple", David Cameron declared after cutting short his holiday in Tuscany. The London mayor and fellow former Bullingdon Club member Boris Johnson, heckled by hostile Londoners in Clapham Junction, warned that rioters must stop hearing "economic and sociological justifications" (though who was offering them he never explained) for what they were doing.
If these riots have no social or political causes, then clearly no one in authority can be held responsible. What's more, with many people terrified by the mayhem and angry at the failure of the police to halt its spread, it offers the government a chance to get back on the front foot and regain its seriously damaged credibility as a force for social order.
But it's also a nonsensical position. If this week's eruption is an expression of pure criminality and has nothing to do with police harassment or youth unemployment or rampant inequality or deepening economic crisis, why is it happening now and not a decade ago? The criminal classes, as the Victorians branded those at the margins of society, are always with us, after all. And if it has no connection with Britain's savage social divide and ghettoes of deprivation, why did it kick off in Haringey and not Henley?
To accuse those who make those obvious links of being apologists or "making excuses" for attacks on firefighters or robbing small shopkeepers is equally fatuous. To refuse to recognise the causes of the unrest is to make it more likely to recur – and ministers themselves certainly won't be making that mistake behind closed doors if they care about their own political futures.
It was the same when riots erupted in London and Liverpool 30 years ago, also triggered by confrontation between the police and black community, when another Conservative government was driving through cuts during a recession. The people of Brixton and Toxteth were denounced as criminals and thugs, but within weeks Michael Heseltine was writing a private memo to the cabinet, beginning with "it took a riot", and setting out the urgent necessity to take action over urban deprivation.
This time, the multi-ethnic unrest has spread far further and faster. It's been less politicised and there's been far more looting, to the point where in many areas grabbing "free stuff" has been the main action. But there's no mystery as to where the upheaval came from. It was triggered by the police killing a young black man in a country where black people are 26 times more likely to be stopped and searched by police than their white counterparts. The riot that exploded in Tottenham in response at the weekend took place in an area with the highest unemployment in London, whose youth clubs have been closed to meet a 75% cut in its youth services budget.
While bankers have publicly looted the country's wealth and got away with it, it's not hard to see why those who are locked out of the gravy train might think they were en led to help themselves to a mobile phone. Some of the rioters make the connection explicitly. "The politicians say that we loot and rob, they are the original gangsters," one told a reporter. Another explained to the BBC: "We're showing the rich people we can do what we want."
the reflection of a society run on greed – and a poisonous failure of politics and social solidarity. There is now a danger that rioting might feed into ethnic conflict. Meanwhile, the latest phase of the economic crisis lurching back and forth between the United States and Europe risks tipping austerity Britain into slump or prolonged stagnation. We're starting to see the devastating costs of refusing to change course.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...-looting/print
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The Banskters loot and pillage, and dump the penalty for their crimes on the poor and disenfranchised.
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US goverment is not nearly as oppresive to minorities as British goverment so I doubt anything like that happens.
But if somehow that were to happen here. I disagree on the consequences. The TV, Internet, cell phones would prevent extreme violence on the ppl. And no, this is not Argentina or chile. They would not get rounded up.google up LA riots.
Forced to agree, If its just riots (like in London) and not a revolt, then it would be a quick little affair with much news coverage.US goverment is not nearly as oppresive to minorities as British goverment so I doubt anything like that happens.
But if somehow that were to happen here. I disagree on the consequences. The TV, Internet, cell phones would prevent extreme violence on the ppl. And no, this is not Argentina or chile. They would not get rounded up.
If its revolt...well...militarized police or not, the government would have to call in the national guard like they did in Detroit 1967.
Difference between Britain and USA, Americans have lots of guns.
yep, thats what black talons are for.
they did call the national guard in the LA riots. But after the 3rd night.
It really can't get worse than the LA riots. it happened and it easily can happen again.
what really would up is if multiple riots like LA riots happen in dozens of cities at the same time. Like an all out race war or something. then, would hit the fan.
Ha, at least here in the States we can blame uneducated Bubbas down south of being overtly racist pigs.
In Britain, apparently, even the educated are racist pigs.
Europe is no example to follow, at all. Everything was peachy keen when everyone was caucasian, prayed to the same God and spoke the same monetary language of business.
Enter the brown people.
London burns and every journalist in sight is either an overt xenophobe or an apologist with hopes of Utopia.
Comical, really.
Agreed.
I am not a well-traveled person, even in my own country, so I have no real perspective of other cities and their problems.
But I do know this; Detroit beats them all in the ed up department.
If there were a place for something like LA 1991 (or was it 93?) to happen again it would be here in Detroit.
But, in contrast to that statement, there is one over-arching problem with that possibility. Anglo people dont live in Detroit city proper, nor does Anglo business (exceptions to every rule, but you get the point). If the minorities there decided to burn and loot, they would be burning and looting from themselves...which btw, aint .
I dont know what that means, just me meandering through likely US cities to suc b to the violence.
One of the comments from WC's article.The Brits seem to want to be pushed around by the thugs and s of the world. As long as that is true, the most expedient thing to do would be to let it burn.
However, at some point, they may find some vestigal remnants of spines and they will go straight to real bullets. (If they were going to use plastic bullets, that should have been in the first hour.) For now all Brits know there is no protection of private property or of the peaceful citizen, two of the fundamental properties of government in civilization.
It's just wishful thinking. Brits especially need to be taught every so often that weakness asks for violence and attack. They just seem to fall back on apeasement, then take in the teeth over and over again.
lol Chamberlain
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