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I never said that would happen genius....
Great, explain how A&M might be able to sue baylor.the SEC isn't denying A&M. Actually them and the Presidents of the schools in the SEC going public with all this information about unanimous vote and Baylor threatening litigation is their way of backing A&M up in this right now. Putting pressure on Baylor through the media and sorts. If Baylor doesn't budge on this stance then the SEC will still take A&M but it would definitely save a headache by seeing if it can be resolved without litigation first.
Baylor is ing pathetic, the conference is already gone and A&M is not going to stay. They are just ruining relationships and their chance at staying relevant once the big12 dissolves at this point. Texas and 0U are not happy with them either for doing this.
I never said that would happen genius....
Statement from Dr. Bernie Machen, Chair, Southeastern Conference Presidents and Chancellors:
"After receiving unanimous written assurance from the Big 12 on September 2 that the Southeastern Conference was free to accept Texas A&M to join as a new member, the presidents and chancellors of the SEC met last night with the intention of accepting the application of Texas A&M to be the newest member of the SEC. We were notified yesterday afternoon that at least one Big 12 ins ution had withdrawn its previous consent and was considering legal action. The SEC has stated that to consider an ins ution for membership, there must be no contractual hindrances to its departure. The SEC voted unanimously to accept Texas A&M University as a member upon receiving acceptable reconfirmation that the Big 12 and its members have reaffirmed the letter dated September 2, 2011."
And here is the text of the enclosed letter:
September 2, 2011
Mike Slive
Commissioner
Southeastern Conference
2201 Richard Arrington Boulevard North
Birmingham, AL 35203
Dear Mike:
This is to confirm our discussion yesterday during which I informed you that the Big 12
Conference Board of Directors unanimously authorized me to convey to you and their colleagues
in the Southeastern Conference that the Big 12 and its members will not take any legal action for
any possible claims against the SEC or its members relating to the departure of Texas A&M
University from the Big 12 and the admission of Texas A&M into the SEC; provided, however,
that such act by the SEC to admit Texas A&M is publicly confirmed by 5:00 p.m. (CDT) on
September 8, 2011.
Such admission of Texas A&M will result in the withdrawal of Texas A&M from the Big 12
Conference effective June 30, 2012. We both agreed it is in the best interests of each of our
conferences and our member ins utions of higher education to waive any and all legal actions
by either conference and its members resulting from admission of Texas A&M into the SEC, as
long as such admission is confirmed publicly by September 8, 2011.
If any of your presidents and chancellors have concerns about this commitment of the Big 12
Conference, they may contact me or Brady Deaton, Big 12 Board of Director chairman and
chancellor of the University of Missouri, Columbia.
Sincerely,
Dan Beebe
Commissioner
That wouldn't necessarily bode well for BU in a courtroom. Also, if there is any other sorts of do entation showing Baylor agreed to waive it's rights of litigation against the SEC then a lawsuit wouldnt go very far.
Of course 1st step would be to try and talk BU out of suing before taking the other road.
I think you're in over your head here. Baylor is allowed to withdraw it's consent.
If they had done that, Aggy wouldn't be sweating so hard right now.
I think they are just posturing. I don't believe there is a real case here. It is definitely not helping the fact of keeping the big12 together, which is why im so confused why Baylor is doing this.
Texas A&M will not play football in the big12 in 2012. It will not happen regardlesss.
Baylor should have let us go as quick as possible and let Dodds attempt to save the conference with other members, not keep dragging this out and letting OU set up there exit.
Well...
finebaum: @billyliucci w/PF,'As of a few minutes ago, the Big 12 concluded their teleconference & Baylor is not backing down.'
finebaum: Liucci,'A&M is not playing football in the Big 12 in 2012, regardless of any of this.'
finebaum: Liucci,'The threat of litigation from Waco looms large.'
Waiting for the legal wrangling to work itself out is not a denial. Once Baylor gets their bribe A&M is in.
If it happens I don't believe they will actually sue. They are threatening hard and aren't changing.. okay. Doubt they go through with it.
Still ing re ed on their part. This is not helping the big12 stay together by any means.
No. But if I laugh any harder I may ing die.
One could only hope.
Aggy going independent might just do it.
They could for a year and then join the SEC with no litigation factors. Either way they aren't staying in the big12. Baylor is holding the league back by doing this. They really are re ed.
If Oklahoma and OSU decide to leave it would also end all of this.
What's the statute of limitations here? I don't think it's one year.
I was under the impression that it was. Might not be, i'm not sure.
so you normally jump into conversations and reply to points made without understanding the context.
I like it! Pure genius!
Wrong..Baylor is doing exactly what ATM has already done and that is look out for itself. Baylor must know already that OU is pretty close to leaving or I do not think they would carry this threat so far. Baylor may not stop ATM from leaving, but they seem angry enough to be a thorn in ATM's side for quite sometime in the courtrooms which could keep ATM out of the SEC for at least next season. Cant fault Baylor for being upset in this mater.
shocker
Tell me why. Looking out for #1? Really? By holding up the big12 so it can't go try to expand and add new members?A&M is not staying, get over it.
Sure it is. The SEC can instantly add the Aggies this second if they wanted to.
Unless someone can show otherwise, afaik, there is no law, NCAA rule or contractual obligation stating that the SEC must wait based on threat of a lawsuit.
Doesn't matter. A&M leaves the conference the conference either survives without A&M or someone else leaves and the confrence dies. If the conference survives, Baylor doesn't have much of a case about A&M's departure causing them irreparable harm. If the conference dies, Baylor doesn't have much of a case because how do they prove it was A&M's departure who killed the conference as opposed to Nebraska, Colorado or whoever left after A&M did.
1. there's an infinitely small chance that the hold up might up A&M's move to the SEC and force them back to the B12.....which is still a chance.
2. they could end up with a cash settlement
3. they could be simply wanting to up the Aggies SEC celebration party that was scheduled this week.
Tell me why they should go ahead and give the consent to not sue.
What does it matter what they can prove? They will be suing the SEC, not A&M. It's all ing posturing and it's hilarious.
So this is about ing up our celebration
The conference has a better chance of surviving if they let us go and keep the remaining 9 happy and attempt to add. Last week you were saying how the BIG12 will be just fine without A&M and how nobody cares
Now Baylor has a better chance of it surviving by threatning litigation? What happned to BYU? what a in joke.
I thought we were just a minor piece of the puzzle.
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