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Perhaps I overread. I accept your restatements, but my quibble was understandable. I'm no better at reading minds than anyone else.
You sometimes do the very same, though perhaps you don't realize it. It's human.
Perhaps I overread. I accept your restatements, but my quibble was understandable. I'm no better at reading minds than anyone else.
You seem to have no problem making them about religious devotion -- a human behavior.You should know me better to think that when it comes to human behavior, i will not make such comments.
Then by all means then point it out and I will adjust my reasoning because that is something i guard against. I do not just give lip service. I also don't really buy into the notion of 'human behavior.'
BTW, put the word 'some' in front of ST posters and you take my meaning better. I don't buy into a priori so blanket statements about humans are not what i am about. Certain cultural demographics otoh.....
You occasionally go into this arbiter mode. Better you than most i guess but it just is what it is.
see above
I never said it was a universal behavior. I can comment on a particular behavior and not attribute it to all. You aren't even arguing the efficacy in particular just in general anyway.
If you take care to say what you really mean, people will understand you better.
Anyway, everyone's an arbiter here.
If you take care to not overgeneralize as a matter of course you will understand better. That being said i have explained myself and apologize for any confusion.
Do you have any more umbrage to my contention that the religious right has promoted a very poor view of academia and intellectuals? Or are you satisfied withy our 'its not universal' red herring?
lol worng thread. i just got home. Anyway. They normalize for monthly trends and its obvious that comments by more than one source did not consider that.
I had none to begin with, and that isn't what you said. You said "Christianity," not "the religious right."Do you have any more umbrage to my contention that the religious right has promoted a very poor view of academia and intellectuals?
the two are not mutually exclusive.
One is not equivalent to the other. Christians are all over the board politically.
http://robertreich.org/post/13638321932Here’s what you need to worry about:
First, this rate of job growth is barely enough to keep up with the growth in the working-age population. So we’re not making progress on the backlog of more than 13 million jobless Americans, and another 11 million working part-time who’d rather have full-time jobs.
Second, retail jobs cons uted a third of new private-sector employment in November. Retail jobs tend to be unstable, temporary, and low-paying. Although the BLS is supposed to adjust for seasonal employment (i.e. Christmas), it doesn’t take account of the fact that more and more Americans have been pushing up their Christmas buying to before Thanksgiving. So some of these jobs may not be around very long.
Third, the jobless rate fell partly because around 315,000 people who had been looking for jobs dropped out of the job market in November. Remember: If you’re not actively looking, you’re not counted as unemployed on the household survey.
Fourth, hourly earnings are down, as are real wages. So to some extent Americans have been subs uting lower wages for lost jobs – either by accepting lower wages at their current place of employment, or getting the boot and settling for lower wages elsewhere. A job is better than no job, of course, but a job with a lower wage isn’t nearly as good as a job with at the same or better wage.
Fifth, another reason for November’s job growth is that American consumers – whose spending accounts for about 70 percent of the economy – increased their spending. But this can’t continue because, as noted, wages are dropping. They spent more by cutting into their meager savings. Don’t expect this to last.
http://bottomline.msnbc.msn.com/_new...ls-weak-marketThe Labor Department said Thursday that new claims rose a seasonally-adjusted 6,000 to 402,000, well above the drop of 3,000 claims expected according to a survey for Reuters by FactSet. It was the second straight week that claims had risen after several weeks of declines.
The 4-week moving average, considered a more accurate gauge of labor market trends, was 395,750, an increase of 500 from the previous week's revised average of 395,250, the Labor Department said.
Still, the four-week moving average remains below 400,000, a level that economists consider a significant signpost for the health of the job market.
"The overall trend in claims is still friendly," said Jennifer Lee, an economist at BMO Capital Markets in a note to clients. "Don't be too overly concerned with the ups and downs of each week as this is a volatile report."
The report covered the Thanksgiving holiday week, when applications usually fall sharply. That can make seasonal adjustment of the figures difficult.
Applications would need to stay below 375,000 consistently to push down the unemployment rate significantly. They haven't been at that level since February.
This is the wrong thread but my point is that Christianity by virtue of its dogma being absolutely at odds with what logic demands from an intellectual approach is going to trend towards anti-intellectualism.
For example, when you begin to understand processes like meiosis, combustion, flight,and respiration many of the main tenants within the Christian faith do not jive. Many simply try to mentally ignore the incongruency but it is there always nonetheless.
The reason why Aquinas position was flawed was because when push came to shove the two are incompatible.
As such people coming to the realization that the dogma is not true leads to a decline in membership and that is undesirable to any organization.
Now I agree that the Catholic Church, Episcopalians and countless individuals are Christian and not part of the religious right but as a whole they all have a long and storied tradition of Luddism.
Its just that mega-churches which comprise the Christian right for the most part have been politically active since the 1980s and have there own storied past when it comes to stunting the search for the truth.
More glittering generalities. You can keep them.
When the shoe fits the demographic foot....
Its only the history of Western civilization.
Cliche' and glibness. Impressive.
And all you have given is saying that all i have generalities as a blanket dismissal. this is the wrong thread but what started the discussion was why the GOP puts out dumb candidates.
Thats not impressive. Its sad. of course you cannot say that about any individual but as a group the shoe fits. Sorry if you find the truth repugnant. i find dogma replacing sense repugnant.
That is false. I tried to discuss neo-Thomism. You waved it away peremptorily, without clearly articulating your objection to it. Indeed, you only waved at it, too.When logic fails there's always rhetoric. Too bad you're terrible at it.
That truth, as expoused by you, is laughably trite. Mile wide and an inch deep.
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Unemployment Drops Following Decline in Labor Force
According to the latest Bureau of Labor Statistics' employment report, 315,000 people left the labor market in October. This move pushed the unemployment rate down by 0.4 percentage points to 8.6 percent.
The drop in labor force participation was entirely among women, especially black women. Participation numbers among white women fell by 0.2 percentage points to 199,000. The drop among black women was 164,000, a drop of 1.2 percentage points. These monthly numbers are highly erratic, and it is likely that at least part of this drop will be reversed in future months. Nonetheless there had been a trend of declining participation rates among both white and black women even prior to the November plunge. This suggests that there is a real issue of women losing access to jobs;
http://www.cepr.net/index.php/blogs/...=Google+Reader
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Like with the climate, the picture is always complex but complexity doesn't mean the picture is deniable.
Strip away the different belief systems, and anti-religious fanatics and religious fanatics are both fanatics. A lot in common.
fanatics aren't by definition bad, just in what they're fanatics about.
US needs 10s of Ms of fanatics in the 99% to regain control of the country from the 1%.
http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2011/...s-in-november/While the stat is obscure and volatile, it isn’t the only thing saying the job market is better than it seems. Revisions released today show the economy added 72,000 more jobs in September and October than was originally reported. And the temporary help services sector, seen as a leading indicator of permanent job growth, showed strong growth over the month.
WSJ pimping the confidence fairy.
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