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On what grounds?
I could see Texas winning this.
On what grounds?
On the grounds that you don't mess with Texas! God bless.
FWIW, you can check Northwest Austin Municipal Utility District No. 1 v. Holder (2009) for some opinions from the current SCOTUS on Section 5 of the VRA...
re ed sticks who think voter fraud is actually a problem. Do you ing realize how many times you would have to do it in order for there to even be any sort of significance?
The penalties for it are incredibly steep. It's really not worth the time/risk it would take to cast a few extra votes.
The only true way to cheat and actually influence elections is to hack the voting machines.
Counterfeiting quarters tbh
The penalties for it are incredibly steep. It's really not worth the time/risk it would take to cast a few extra votes.
The only true way to cheat and actually influence elections is to hack the voting machines.
Few thoughts on this thread:
1) It's amazing to me that after all these years that you ing idiots still fall for chump's schtick even when he's not doing it very well (chump, I've seen you do better, but in your defense, you didn't have much to work with in here).
2) This thread sucked.
3) Does it really matter if id's are required to vote in Texas? Regardless, the state will vote republican so who gives a ?
4) and this is a question: boutons, when are you going to move back to Europe?
suitable grounds can always be found by judges who band together to make a difference.
johnsmith, GFY, flaming asshole.
Go have a drink to my mother's death.
This thread exposes exactly why Repugs, pushed and lead by ALEC, want to disenfranchise, the epitome of anti-Americanism, as many poor voters as possible.
poor voters? i wasn't aware that ID's cost much of anything. every american citizen i know has one, and i know some poor people. now on the other hand, i can see where illegals wouldn't be able to get one.
They have set up free id's for low income. But to get one, you need a birth cert. So now that should be free. Because voting should be free. So with that: people who miss work to vote should be reimbursed that amount of money they lost. People with cars should be given a stipend to pay for the gas it takes them if they have a car and people without cars a stipend to pay for their bus fee. Or I guess then they should get paid by someone else shoes. If they have to walk from their car to they voting booth. Then they should be given money to buy clothes to wear to go vote...
and the beat goes on.
There simply shouldn't be a poll tax.
Texas has a long history of fighting the VRA, including the racial gerrymandering struck down in Bush v. Vera...
... and that racist undertone is pretty much what drives popular Republican support for this.
Some think it is sort of a good idea on "personal responsibility" grounds.
No one can find evidence of fraud that would be prevented by this.
Given:
No data of widespread fraud.
Republicans are logical.
Logical people do not propose solutions to non-existant problems.
If Republicans are logical, then they do not propose solutions to non-existant problems.
If there is no data showing that voter fraud is a widespread problem, then there is no problem requiring a solution.
Since logical people don't propose solutions to problems that don't exist, one logically has to look for a problem that this proposal DOES address, and I have proposed that problem: certain segments of the population vote for Democrats. This is a problem that limiting poor, minorities, and elderly voting would solve.
The only bias I have here, is assuming Repbulicans are logical. I am giving them the benefit of the doubt.
It is quite possible that they are being illogical, which would not be new for conservatives.
Strawman.
Have you found that evidence of widespread fraud yet?
Why would I be looking for that? speaking of strawmen...
How is it a racist undertone if illegals don't have the right to vote.
If there is no evidence of widespread fraud, then the ID law that is supposed to solve that problem is not logical.
You want a law to solve a problem, yet you can't prove the problem exists.
Do you see why I might be a tad skeptical, when the solution most likely benefits the Republican party?
Worrying about "illegals" tends to go hand in hand with some xenophobia about brown people, in my experience. It is my opinion.
That said, I will ask you:
Prove illegals are voting.
You have no idea what I want. the fact is the Fed has no right telling the state of Texas they cannot have a law, by using a rule made in the civil rights era. Especially when it doesn't really pertain. This is intrusive at the least and uncons utional IMHO.
I always assume you guys have common sense, and then I realize you check that at the team entrance.
Why do people think the only illegal people are brown?
What about people of other nations who come here for one reason or another. What about the ever growing huge population of Ukrainians we have here in Oregon? I'll bet many of them are family members who are staying here of those here legally.
How does the VRA not apply?
The Justice Department’s civil rights division on Monday blocked Texas from enforcing a new law requiring voters to present photo identification at the pollsHow is this the federal govt. business? Because TX was segregated at one time?The Voting Rights Act, adopted initially in 1965 and extended in 1970, 1975, 1982, and 2006 is generally considered the most successful piece of civil rights legislation ever adopted by the United States Congress. The Act codifies and effectuates the 15th Amendment's permanent guarantee that, throughout the nation, no person shall be denied the right to vote on account of race or color. In addition, the Act contains several special provisions that impose even more stringent requirements in certain jurisdictions throughout the country.http://www.justice.gov/crt/about/vot/
1.8 million people are registered to vote and also dead. That has nothing to do with racism.
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