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It's against Pop's rules.
It's in section 2.15
-No playing Devin Brown unless you are down 15 points in the 4th quarter.
Devin Brown should of played. He would of been an offensive spark.
It's against Pop's rules.
It's in section 2.15
-No playing Devin Brown unless you are down 15 points in the 4th quarter.
early in the secon half the lady on tv said it was the FIRST TIME POP GOT ON THE SPURS ALL NIGHT!
devin brown is good guy but he has not brain nba player for me
Cīmon men the man isnīt playing on the court. He just put what he think is the better choice.
The Spurs really need a real Point Guard, TPark plays like a shy shooting guard . Duncan has a cloud in his personality and Gino was too tired to play point guard, shooting guard, small forward and shooting in clutch. and where are the other players? Cīmon just one game and is over...
The real problem is a matter of heart. Pistons have it and Spurs doesnīt.
Play smart and play together, the Spurs ar far better than Pistons. But they must play with heart, determination and staying on focus.
Then you are a moron. Even if we lose, what coach would you rather have?
Yeah, Pop screwed up royally as AHF has pointed out in a variety of areas. But so did all the Spurs.
Thing is, there is not a better coach available. Phil Jackson is not available, and I'm not sure Larry Brown would come back to SA.
Plus, I have a problem with firing a coach who consistently gets your team to the playoffs every year, and even manages to win a couple of Championships. Spurs fans are sooooo spoiled.
Beating Detroit is a major challenge, don't pretend it isn't difficult. That said, the Spurs are tied 3-3 with the Defending Champs who have a lot on their side. They have the whole "win one for the Gipper" mentality as Brown has health problems. They have a Chip on their shoulder the size of Texas as no one gives them credit for being Defending Champions. And Brown is using this "underdog mentality" to keep them focused and winning games.
BUT, the Pistons have yet to win this series. They still have to win one more in the SBC Center versus a Spurs team that should have been awakened last night. We'll see, I'm just happy the Spurs won game 5. If we had lost then, there would be nothing to plan for on Thursday....
If Spurs will loos and Pop will containing to play with same players i tell you i will blame him forever damit. he must do something or this is over . Only if others will play like monsters. Damit i will nuts to watch that again
Sense, I dropped a total of about $550 to get from Dallas to the game and back yesterday. But yeah, I'm not a fan.You are a very stupid fan...
Wait... that is if you are a fan.
There is no excuse for not at least watching film or having a walk through. Day off? You're playing for the world ing le. , win that game and they can have the next MONTH off.
Stupid. And it told the players (subconsciously if nothing else) that this series was over and to expect Detroit to lay down. Dumb dumb dumb.
Here's another one for you - the Spurs have taken the day off prior to four games now in the 2005 Playoffs. They are 1-3 in those games, and in the three losses our average margin of defeat is 18 points per game.
Take a look at that and tell me that in any way, shape, or form Pop should have thought that was a good idea, and I'd say he needs to be fired (and I don't want him fired, I just want him to wake the up).
And I'm sorry, but there was no excuse for not sliding Bowen over to guard Chauncey some, the guy had 19 points, 6 assists, 6 rebounds, 0 turnovers. He lit us up. If anyone was paying attention the last two years, Detroit goes as Chauncey goes.
Giving their heart and soul free reign out there when he knows the guy covering him (Tony) can't match up is just asking to get your ass kicked.
ShoogarBear - sorry, the Manu thing was kind of implied when I said we should have been attacking 'Sheed at the offensive end. He had some bad turnovers at the end last night, but again - it's been said all series - iso sets play right into the teeth of Detroit's defense, and that's what we were running for Manu. No pick and roll, no give and go, just a 1-4 setup that hasn't worked in six games.
I agree with you, in general. Gotta give the Pistons some credit though.
They made an AWFUL lot of very difficult shots without missing...
If there were better coaching options, youd get em.
But realisticly there isnt.
I have disagreed with AHF in the past but this time he has hit the nail on the head
Those of you that dont agree please take your heads out of the sand
Tim only played 40 minutes last night not 48 as someone said earlier
I still believe...but more importantly does TIM DUNCAN?
Hiring an offensive coaching assistant can be done without replacing Pop.
Most of the other stuff Pop should have known better on, but it all goes back to lack of preparation. Which is what happens when you take the day before game 6 of the NBA Freakin' Finals off.
Inexcusable.
Leave it to Aggie to make a 5+ page thread on Pop.
This is painfully obvious and this is why I'm calling for Pop's head even if we do manage to win Game 7.
People can call me an idiot for blaming Pop, but to not run the offense throught the greatest power forward of all time, your best scorer, and your highest percentage shooter (i.e. Tim Duncan) is moronic.
"run the offense throught the greatest power forward of all time"
Normally, Pop does run through Tim as first option, "inside-out", to a fault, aka "4-down" aka "4 Spurs watching Tim".
It wasn't only Rasheed playing Tim hard, fronting him, it was also whoevr else guarded tim. Tim had to fight his way around the defender, getting Tim in front of the defender, but off the low-block, and close to perimeter defender who could sag off and still prevent the ball from getting to Tim.
PJ Carlisimo? He's a darn good coach, a LOT of other teams were seeing if he wanted the head coaching job. Doesn't he like to run the motion offense? That's very good for the Spurs instead of stupid 4-down when Duncan keeps passing it off. Pop is a very good coach, don't get me wrong, but maybe not for this team. He doesn't seem to know how to use the abilities of the individual players. Like last night he could have played Devin Brown instead of Beno Udrih. Devin Brown is a good, physical player who plays defense. That's adjustments. Also, what on earth has Pop done the last few games to stop the Pistons' guards? NOTHING. Bowen is playing Rip well, Rip just went off last night. However, why in the world would you want Parker on Billups when he is on fire? I am blaming Pop for our loss in Game 4 and last night because he failed to make adjustments. Simple as that. Larry Brown obviously made adjustments after two losses in a row. IMO, he's the best coach in the NBA.
AHF, was this your favorite book as a child, or what?
Dropping the whole blame game for a minute, I would like to discuss the game plan.
It seemed like Pop's defensive game plan last night was to deny interior scoring and make Detroit beat us from the perimeter, which they did.
Blame Pop all you want, but 1. you shouldn't have to give a pep talk or rip assholes this late in the season. The Spurs were too relaxed, and they did not play with the appropriate amount of fear. That comes down to the players--Tony and Tim in particular. The agressiveness on the boards was nonexistant.
This was a team loss.
Spurs in 7.
Did I miss where AHF admitted that Nazr sucked?
Yeah, Nazr's playing like it's his first time in the Finals.
What's Tim's excuse? Pop's? Tony's?
For all the defensive greatness that is Gregg Popovich, he is letting Chauncey light us up with no change in sight.
It's become painfully obvious the last 3 games that Tony can't matchup with Billups and that Billups knows this.
So why does Pop keep letting us get our teeth kicked in defensively with that matchup?
Granted I already know the answer - Pop is good for one adjustment per series. Any more than that, and the Simulator Crew breaks down.
"The agressiveness on the boards was nonexistant."
WTF? The Spurs outrebounded the Pistons by 3 RBs. (each team had 13 O RB)
The stat that really killed the Spurs was horrible shooting (just like May 04) in the second half:
3rd:
(11:36) [SAN] Duncan Jump Shot: Missed Block: R. Wallace (2 BLK)
(10:59) [SAN 49-46] Ginobili Running Jump: Made (14 PTS)
(10:19) [SAN] Parker Jump Shot: Missed
(9:26) [SAN] Ginobili Jump Shot: Missed
(8:47) [SAN] Bowen Jump Shot: Missed
(8:31) [SAN] Ginobili Jump Shot: Missed
(8:22) [SAN 53-50] Parker Driving Layup: Made (12 PTS)
(7:34) [SAN] Duncan Turnaround Jump: Missed
(7:32) [SAN 55-52] Mohammed Hook Shot: Made (4 PTS)
(6:49) [SAN] Parker Layup Shot: Missed Block: R. Wallace (3 BLK)
(5:46) [SAN 58-59] Duncan Layup Shot: Made (11 PTS) Assist: Bowen (1 AST)
(4:19) [SAN 62-61] Bowen Jump Shot: Made (6 PTS) Assist: Horry (2 AST)
(3:44) [SAN] Barry Layup Shot: Missed Block: Prince (1 BLK)
(3:37) [SAN 64-64] Duncan Jump Shot: Made (14 PTS) Assist: Barry (2 AST)
(3:00) [SAN 66-64] Barry Driving Layup: Made (8 PTS) Assist: Parker (5 AST)
(2:22) [SAN] Parker Jump Shot: Missed
(0:43) [SAN] Parker Jump Shot: Missed
(0:00) [SAN] Barry Jump Shot: Missed
4th:
(11:14) [SAN] Ginobili Jump Shot: Missed
(11:05) [SAN] Barry Jump Shot: Missed
(11:04) [SAN 69-74] Barry Tip Shot: Made (10 PTS)
(10:26) [SAN] Barry Jump Shot: Missed
(9:19) [SAN 73-76] Horry Jump Shot: Made (8 PTS) Assist: Ginobili (2 AST)
(8:14) [SAN] Mohammed Layup Shot: Missed Block: McDyess (1 BLK)
(7:31) [SAN] Barry Layup Shot: Missed
(6:09) [SAN 76-80] Parker Jump Shot: Made (15 PTS) Assist: Barry (3 AST)
(5:18) [SAN] Bowen Jump Shot: Missed
(4:48) [SAN 81-82] Ginobili Jump Shot: Made (21 PTS) Assist: Duncan (1 AST)
(3:12) [SAN 84-87] Duncan Dunk Shot: Made (19 PTS) Assist: Ginobili (3 AST)
(2:22) [SAN 86-87] Duncan Layup Shot: Made (21 PTS)
(1:46) [SAN] Ginobili Layup Shot: Missed Block: B. Wallace (2 BLK)
(0:45) [SAN] Parker Jump Shot: Missed
(0:43) [SAN] Duncan Layup Shot: Missed Block: B. Wallace (3 BLK)
(0:40) [SAN] Duncan Layup Shot: Missed
(0:35) [SAN] Ginobili Jump Shot: Missed
(0:20) [SAN] Horry Jump Shot: Missed
(0:13) [SAN] Ginobili Jump Shot: Missed
13 made + 24 missed for total of 37 => 13/37 => 35%!!
Goddamit, that's not championship basketball.
Had the Spurs shot in the 2nd half as well as they shot in the 1st half, then:
"River Parade on Thursday".
The Spurs outshot the Pistons in the first half, and the Pistons outshot the Spurs in the second half.
iow, as the game progressed, the Spurs shot worse, and the Pistons shot better.
what was manu's excuse
he has been to the finals before
That he stinks?
he sure stinked the last 2 minutes of the game up last night
I think he sucked all game. He should have had 40pts 12 reb if he just made his threes. But he choked.
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