..does Obama deserve 4 more years?

[mouse]

^ further Proof Yonivore is underrated.

[Wild Cobra]

You know a good start for you would actually be to know what the socialism means...

And quitting regurgitating the same bull that the ing people that tell you what and how to ing think would be the second step.

Jesus, I have no real love for President Obama, but when you are as ing stupid as some of the morons on here, it has to be called out.

It's so funny to watch people like you defend liberals/progressives/etc. as not being socialistic.

[boutons_deux]

"being socialistic"

what's socialism?

We know (unregulated) capitalism s us 99% hard and deep daily.

"It's so funny to watch people like you defend" it.

[Winehole23]

Pretty much. The only difference would be the rhetoric.

The appointees could be pretty different. Thinking esp. of the judiciary, here...

[cheguevara]

thinking there's a difference between Mittens and Barry

poor sheeple

[boutons_deux]

there is a HUGE difference.

Gecko, if he has control of House and Senate, will destroy medicare, medicaid, privatize SS (give it to the Banksters), devastate SNAP, unions, unemployment, HHS, DoEducation, EPA, etc, etc. It's ALEC/VRWC agenda.

and he will probably bomb Iran.

[cheguevara]

we'd bomb Iran regardless of who's the figurehead.

this country is not run by the president. wake up.

If they want it to happen it will happen regardless

[boutons_deux]

wake the up.

a pres with control of Congress (and Repug pres has JINO SCOTUS, too) can do a lot of damage, which is all the Repugs are interested in doing to the 99%.

[cheguevara]

wake the up.

a pres with control of Congress (and Repug pres has JINO SCOTUS, too) can do a lot of damage, which is all the Repugs are interested in doing to the 99%.

Bull

Obama made plenty damage and did not have control of congress.

bi-partisanship shows up when the Fed + Wall Street say so

[Trainwreck2100]

did Bush in 04?

[boutons_deux]

Obama made plenty damage

You Lie, and you have no evidence.

[Clipper Nation]

Obama isn't a good president but he'd still be better than Romney, tbh.... Romney's foreign policy would make Obama's look like Ron Paul's.... economically we're ed regardless since the dollar will continue to lose value...

[cheguevara]

You Lie, and you have no evidence.

murdering suspects american or not and jailing american citizens indefinitely. destruction of civil liberties. continuing the warmongering. continuing the unfair drug war. bailing out bankers. prosecuting zero banks. serving 1%, the fed and wall st, etc, etc.

it's already in the history books

Obama is Bush 3.0 and if that's not doing damage, I don't know what is

[Clipper Nation]

We know (unregulated) capitalism s us 99% hard and deep daily.

Nah B... what s us hard is inflation from the Fed's money printing...

[boutons_deux]

Nah B... what s us hard is inflation from the Fed's money printing...

You Lie. To oppose govt stimulus spending and to keep the economy down for Nov 2012, the VRWC has been scare-mongering inflation for 3+ years.

It ain't NOWHERE in sight.

[Clipper Nation]

You're an idiot, tbh... the simple act of printing money without tangible wealth behind it, which the Fed does every day, is inflation... the American dollar has lost 97% of its purchasing power since the Fed was started in 1913.... that ain't a coincidence, B...

[cheguevara]

in the last 4 years of Obama, corporations have reached a record breaking profit of 824 billions in profits and increased dividends. JPMorgan still receives the 14 billion annual government subsidy.

yeah, wall street don't want Obama

[cheguevara]

yeah, no damage:

When JPMorgan Chase & Co. Chief Executive Officer Jamie Dimon testifies in the U.S. House today, he will present himself as a champion of free-market capitalism in opposition to an overweening government. His position would be more convincing if his bank weren’t such a beneficiary of corporate welfare.

To be precise, JPMorgan receives a government subsidy worth about $14 billion a year, according to research published by the International Monetary Fund and our own analysis of bank balance sheets. The money helps the bank pay big salaries and bonuses. More important, it distorts markets, fueling crises such as the recent subprime-lending disaster and the sovereign-debt debacle that is now threatening to destroy the euro and sink the global economy.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-0...-welfare-.html

[mouse]

I agree that our safety net programs have been abused, and need restructuring. I would also argue that many people now need the safety net because of decisions made in the private sector, namely the outsourcing of decent paying low skill jobs to third world countries. A little outsourcing can be good for the economy, due to the cheaper goods it creates. This was to much of a good thing though, and you can see the fallout in stagnant wages over the past few decades. Those stagnant wages are deadly when the cost of food, fuel, and medical care have continued going up.

In regards to the single payer system, we are simply worlds apart. I do not view private medical insurance as a legitimate business. It is a needless middle man, providing a service that the government could do for much cheaper.

I do believe in capitalism, and would not want to change our system into a purely socialistic society. However, there are some things better left to the government in my opinion. I would not want the police, or fire department run by the private sector. I feel the same way about medical insurance.

Solid post!

[Clipper Nation]

It's so funny to watch people like you defend liberals/progressives/etc. as not being socialistic.

Obama is NOT a socialist... he's just as much of a corporatist shill as Mittens... loves the Fed and special interests...

[George Gervin's Afro]

Obama is NOT a socialist... he's just as much of a corporatist shill as Mittens... loves the Fed and special interests...

he really doesn't know what socialism is or means.. he's admitted that he usually takes the low road..

[Sense]

He might not deserve it, but Romney doesn't deserve any.

[AFBlue]

Does Romney deserve 4 years at all?

I shudder to think about giving the executive branch to another bunch of ideological re s. Bush was bad enough, and the extremists pushing the GOP's buttons are even worse today.

Romney isn't an ideologue. He's not going to pass landmark legislation that either significantly reduces or expands the size and scope of government. He's a placeholder, but one that won't at least push an extreme agenda.

Can't say the same for Obama.

[ElNono]

Romney isn't an ideologue. He's not going to pass landmark legislation that either significantly reduces or expands the size and scope of government. He's a placeholder, but one that won't at least push an extreme agenda.

Romney is a puppet... much like Barry... he'll try to pass whatever he's told to pass. Ultimately, it's Congress that makes or breaks agendas.

[Jacob1983]

Does it really matter if Obama wins or loses in November? I mean let's be honest for a minute. I know that the FOX News types hate Obama with a fiery passion and think he's the in' anti-Christ while Obama lovers, supporters, and koolaid drinkers think Obama is awesome, hip, and cool and nothing like Bush.

You're still gonna get to do what you want to do as long as you aren't hurting anyone.
If you want to go to McDonald's and get some food that will turn you into a fatty fat fatty, you will still be able to do that. If you want to watch mindless ty tv shows like American Idol and Dancing with the Stars, you will still be able to do that. You will still be able to watch whatever movie you want to watch and will be able to read whatever types of books you want to read.