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    PCB's and mercury found in seafood are bigger issues than small increases in radioactivity

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    The levels we're seeing are safe. you'd be really safe.
    It's this type of ignorance that allow Agloco's cronies to flourish in this forum.

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    I've always been partial to Bananas Foster tbh.

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    I've always been partial to Bananas Foster tbh.
    You find it appealing?

    Is anyone going to quote the first Fukushima topics so we can see who had it right?

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    It's this type of ignorance that allow Agloco's cronies to flourish in this forum.
    You know, I disagree with most things that Agloco has spoken of here, except in this area.

    So tell us.

    What are acceptable levels?

    Where will you go to stay withing acceptable levels?

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    A Radioactive Conflict of Interest with Tragic Dimensions

    Having the Energy Department control radiation health research makes as much sense as giving tobacco companies the authority to see if smoking is bad for you.


    "current U.S. regulations require that residents of any area that reaches radiation levels eight times higher than background should be evacuated. However, the financial and emotional cost of such relocation may not be worthwhile, the researchers say."

    It's quite a leap to claim that evacuation zones around nuclear power plants might not be needed based on the chromosomes of 112 irradiated mice. In a devastating critique, blogger, Ian Goddard points out that the MIT study excluded extensive evidence of genetic damage to humans living in a radiation-contaminated environment. Although doses in a peer-reviewed study of 19 groups of children living near Chernobyl were consistently lower than the MIT mouse study, most showed lasting genetic damage from radiation. "MIT's presentation of its study as the first scientific ever examination of the genetic risks of living in a nuclear disaster zone is pure science fiction, not fact,"

    http://www.ips-dc.org/blog/a_radioac...gic_dimensions

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    You know, I disagree with most things that Agloco has spoken of here, except in this area.

    So tell us.

    What are acceptable levels?

    Where will you go to stay withing acceptable levels?
    Allow me... if you will, to explain this in terms you, and others may understand.

    How much of a mans would you say is ok to be in your mouth before you to be consider it to be too Gay?

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    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/ipad/fuk...-1226410635366

    TEPCO, the operator of Japan's crippled nuclear plant, took samples from the basement of reactor number 1 after lowering a camera and surveying instruments through a drain hole in the basement ceiling.

    Radiation levels above radioactive water in the basement reached up to 10,300 millisievert an hour, a dose that would kill humans within a short time after making them sick within minutes.

    The annual allowed dose for workers at the stricken site would be reached in only 20 seconds.

    "Workers cannot enter the site and we must use robots for the demolition," said TEPCO.

    The Fukushima operator said that radiation levels were 10 times higher than those recorded at the plant's two other crippled reactors, number two and three.

    This was due to the poor state of the nuclear fuel in the reactor compared to that in the two others.

    The meltdown at the core of three of Fukushima's six reactors occurred after the March 11, 2011 earthquake and ensuing massive tsunami shut off the power supply and cooling system.

    Demolition of the three reactors as well as the plant's number 4 unit is expected to take 40 years and will need the use of new technologies.

    "it ain't but a small nuclear accident"

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    A Radioactive Conflict of Interest with Tragic Dimensions

    Having the Energy Department control radiation health research makes as much sense as giving tobacco companies the authority to see if smoking is bad for you.


    "current U.S. regulations require that residents of any area that reaches radiation levels eight times higher than background should be evacuated. However, the financial and emotional cost of such relocation may not be worthwhile, the researchers say."

    It's quite a leap to claim that evacuation zones around nuclear power plants might not be needed based on the chromosomes of 112 irradiated mice. In a devastating critique, blogger, Ian Goddard points out that the MIT study excluded extensive evidence of genetic damage to humans living in a radiation-contaminated environment. Although doses in a peer-reviewed study of 19 groups of children living near Chernobyl were consistently lower than the MIT mouse study, most showed lasting genetic damage from radiation. "MIT's presentation of its study as the first scientific ever examination of the genetic risks of living in a nuclear disaster zone is pure science fiction, not fact,"

    http://www.ips-dc.org/blog/a_radioac...gic_dimensions
    It's my experience that the energy department is not the sole proprietor of radiobiologic research. I fail to see how it's in control anything as far as radiation research is concerned.

    I'll also point out that while translating the results of a study such as the one carried out by MIT should be done with caution, we must also examine the cir stances and conditions under which each data set was obtained. This was, perhaps, the very reason why the MIT study omitted human data.

    That said I would not (and have not to this day) make/made recommendations to government panels regarding human radiation exposures based solely on data obtained through animal studies.

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    "it ain't but a small nuclear accident"
    Who said that? Except you of course.

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    Where is the Science to save us?

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    Who said that? Except you of course.
    plenty of ppl in the original threads here to start with.

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    plenty of ppl in the original threads here to start with.
    Any credible scientific sources?

    Perhaps the available evidence pointed to a more limited situation at the time the remarks were made?

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    Where is the Science to save us?
    Save us from what exactly? You and your legion of trolls? I'm not sure any science exists to remedy that.

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    Any credible scientific sources?

    Perhaps the available evidence pointed to a more limited situation at the time the remarks were made?
    "available evidence"

    this was the first time in history a tsunami causes a nuclear meltdown.

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    "available evidence"

    this was the first time in history a tsunami causes a nuclear meltdown.
    Thanks for the newsflash. Did you know this 2 days after the event though?

    Even being an expert I can't claim that.

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    Save us from what

    Cancer
    Global warming
    Autism
    radiation exposure

    Maybe come up with solar powered vehicles, light bulbs that last 5 years, a way to locate missing children within 24 hours, an alternative to heroin, alcohol,cocaine,.....how about a way to drink fresh water when Frackin is going on 5 miles away?

    How about you so called educated people that call yourselves scientist's keep men from going bald?

    I forget your to busy trying to locate a roach on one of Jupiter's moons

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    Cancer
    Global warming
    Autism
    radiation exposure

    Maybe come up with solar powered vehicles, light bulbs that last 5 years, a way to locate missing children within 24 hours, an alternative to heroin, alcohol,cocaine,.....how about a way to drink fresh water when Frackin is going on 5 miles away?

    How about you so called educated people that call yourselves scientist's keep men from going bald?

    I forget your to busy trying to locate a roach on one of Jupiter's moons
    lol, you've no idea what kind of research I'm engaged in despite my having posted about it numerous times.

    At any rate:


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    lol, you've no idea what kind of research I'm engaged in despite my having posted about it numerous times


    Sell your elitist textbook bull to someone else.
    (like your new groupie triggeredexcellence)

    humans still suffer everyday you continue to toot your horn.




    Put down the golf clubs and cure some .
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    Thanks for the newsflash. Did you know this 2 days after the event though?

    Even being an expert I can't claim that.
    I knew that having Tepco, a FOR PROFIT company being in charge of the disaster response was a complete joke. I knew that the "safe levels" and "affected areas" were mostly bull and mainly dictated by the FOR PROFIT company's finances. As bad as they said the disaster was at the time, I knew the reality was that it was probably 10x worse than they claimed it.

    so yeah, I knew...

    Japan panel: Fukushima nuclear disaster 'man-made'
    In the panel's final report, its chairman said a mul ude of errors and wilful negligence had left the plant unprepared for the earthquake and tsunami.

    "Although triggered by these cataclysmic events, the subsequent accident at the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant cannot be regarded as a natural disaster," it said.

    Key Findings:
    Collusion and lack of governance by government, regulators and Tepco
    Insufficient knowledge and training within Tepco

    Lack of preparation on part of government, regulators, Tepco, and prime minister's office to allow adequate response to accident of this scope, including mounting effective evacuation

    Laws and regulations based on stopgap measures in response to previous accidents - need comprehensive review


    "It was a profoundly man-made disaster - that could and should have been foreseen and prevented."

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-18718057

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    I knew that having Tepco, a FOR PROFIT company being in charge of the disaster response was a complete joke. I knew that the "safe levels" and "affected areas" were mostly bull and mainly dictated by the FOR PROFIT company's finances. As bad as they said the disaster was at the time, I knew the reality was that it was probably 10x worse than they claimed it.

    so yeah, I knew...


    One has to wonder why, instead of alerting the masses, you chose to get into a pissing contest about this on an obscure website in a far off corner of the internets.

    Either you're of quite low moral fiber or you really didn't "know" anything and were simply speculating like everyone else, myself included.

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    Sell your elitist textbook bull to someone else.
    (like your new groupie triggeredexcellence)

    humans still suffer everyday you continue to toot your horn.




    Put down the golf clubs and cure some .
    A hydrocephalic baby from Kosovo? Surely you can do better than that.

    As for the elitist textbook bull ; well, those fund my golfing staycations. Can't do away with those unfortunately. AZ has world class golf, you should come out and join me sometime.

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    One has to wonder why, instead of alerting the masses, you chose to get into a pissing contest about this on an obscure website in a far off corner of the internets.

    Either you're of quite low moral fiber or you really didn't "know" anything and were simply speculating like everyone else, myself included.
    el Che knew that the FOR PROFIT Tepco was full of .

    don't hate the messenger

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    el Che knew that the FOR PROFIT Tepco was full of .

    don't hate the messenger
    Um no. You pissed into the wind, and it happened to feel like rain this time around.

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    A hydrocephalic baby from Kosovo? Surely you can do better than that.


    Leave it to you to laugh at deformed child. That is the problem with you wannabee myth busters scientist your all about ratings and new gizmos while the earth steadily decays beneath you.


    As for the elitist textbook bull ; well, those fund my golfing staycations. Can't do away with those unfortunately. AZ has world class golf, you should come out and join me sometime.
    I would rather give myself a maple syrup enema and sit on an ant hill.

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