There's too much at stake. He will step down. I'm sure he's been getting a lot of "coercion" already.
LOL, you don't have to prove it to me. What I meant is if he had used "violent" instead of "legitimate" he could have played dumb, said he misunderstood or was misinformed, apologized and probably moved on from this.
I don't think there was dodging this, tbh...
Maybe he only considers buttrape legitimate?
how is marital rape considered a crime, while a ass wife cleaning out your account is not stealing.
What was this dumbass thinking? I mean seriously, did he really think no one was gonna give a about this? You can't talk about like this.
This is the type of thing that happens when you forget your lines, and can't speak from the heart. Look at all the Obamagaffs when TOTUS had problems.
Still, he isn't down to Biden's level.
The untouchable youtube gaffe sensation, by a mile, is dubya.
And then there are the assholes like Akin, Barton, Gohmert (Repug TX has a bunch of them) who don't mispeak, but just speak sincere bull , lies, insanity.
Dems really don't a class of assholes like the Repugs have. False equivalence.
As part of the deep misogyny and War on Women inherent in "Christians" and Repugs, a short summary
6 Worst Things Republicans Have Said About Rape, Sex and Women's Bodies
1. Other absurd Republican contributions to the “rape doesn’t lead to babies” myth.
2. Then there’s the daddy of all these rape theories: the National Right to Life Committee’s John C. Willke’s claims in an article that the the “trauma” of rape prevents pregnancy -- i.e., he “basically just makes up,”
3. Want contraception? Put an aspirin between your knees.
4. Seeking to legally redefine rape as “forcible rape” so fewer women will qualify as victims.
5. Another GOP lawmaker (surprise, surprise) worries that women will claim rape just to get abortions.
6. Pundits and lawmakers: Forced ultrasounds are okay because women already consented to be penetrated when they got pregnant.
7. When women sign up for the military to hang out with aggressive dudes, they are asking to get raped.
http://www.alternet.org/6-worst-thin...ies?paging=off
And see above where Pastor spinning rape saying some really great (right wing) people result from rape.
Did Romney Check With Ryan On That Rape Exception to Abortion Thing?
Romney has been relying on his "rape and incest" exception to an all-out ban on abortion as his sole means of battling the Democratic claims that he wants to take away a woman's right to choose whether or not to bear a child. Fact checkers galore have criticised the Obama campaign for claiming that Romney supports a ban on abortion in all cases, saying Romney has explicitly argued that women who have been raped should not be forced to carry to term.
Now, Romney's in a jam. Thanks to Akin, he has been forced to once more take a hard stance on abortion policy, and taking firm stances has never really been Romney's strong suit. Even more alarming, he's taking the stance on behalf of his running mate Paul Ryan, too. "Governor Romney and Congressman Ryan disagree with Mr. Akin’s statement," the campaign said via statement. "A Romney-Ryan administration would not oppose abortion in instances of rape."
Really? Did they ask Ryan? After all, Ryan was one of the original congressional co-sponsors of the bill that would redefine rape in order to limit the number of women and girls who could get financial assistance to obtain an abortion. Ryan also asserted in 1998 that he opposed abortion in any case except to save the life of the pregnant person. Ryan's repeated backing by Pro-Life Wisconsin, and now the Susan B. Anthony List, which both believe that life must be protected from the "moment of conception until natural death," would also imply that rape exceptions just aren't an option.
Now, Ryan is in a tough spot, as one Wisconsin journalist explains it.
I don't see how Romney and Ryan can sell this to the base, which will see it as a Ryan sellout or forced surrender ordered by Romney - - a former moderate whom the base has never embraced.
http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/articl...=Google+Reader
Repugs make it their official postion, no unborn "child" 's right to life ever abridged:
"the official GOP platform committee drafted a provision Monday supporting a “human life amendment” that would outlaw abortion without specifying exemptions for rape or incest. The platform reads:
Faithful to the ‘self-evident’ truths enshrined in the Declaration of Independence, we assert the sanc y of human life and affirm that the unborn child has a fundamental individual right to life which cannot be infringed. We support a human life amendment to the Cons ution and endorse legislation to make clear that the Fourteenth Amendment’s protections apply to unborn children.
http://thinkprogress.org/election/20...ape-exception/
child for these assholes starts at fertilization, so Gecko boys would be criminals, since they use IVF and very probably discard the unused embryos, but of course they are EN LED 1%ers so could flout the Repug law.
Last edited by boutons_deux; 08-21-2012 at 09:40 AM.
not being reported anywhere else.
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Looks like ThinkProgress has mole in there. Who be surprised if it were true?
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0812/79919.html
"The 2012 draft includes support for a Human Life amendment — which would give cons utional protections to the unborn — just as the past three did. “It’s not a controversy anymore,” Schlafly said. “We’ve won that battle.”
But as the committee prepares to consider that language on Tuesday, the blowup surrounding Missouri Republican Senate candidate Todd Akin’s comments about “legitimate rape” could generate debate about whether the party should allow abortion in the case of rape, incest and to protect the life of the mother."
Ok. It's a draft. It's not been finalized. And it's not official.
I can see why that's newsworthy.
That being said, as a conservative, I won't support the platform. I won't be alone.
Leave it to WC to make hilarious a thread on rape.
G.O.P. Approves Strict Anti-Abortion Language in Party Platform
Even as the Republican establishment continued to call for Representative Todd Akin of Missouri to drop out of his Senate race because of his comments on rape and abortion, Republicans approved platform language on Tuesday calling for a cons utional amendment outlawing abortion with no explicit exceptions for cases of rape or incest.
The anti-abortion plank, approved by the Republican platform committee Tuesday morning in Tampa, Fla., was similar to the planks Republicans have included in their recent party platforms, which also called for a cons utional ban on abortions. The full convention is set to vote on the party's platform on Monday.
While Republican officials stressed that the plank did not go into granular details, saying that they were better left to the states, the language of the plank seems to leave little room for exceptions to the abortion ban. It states that "the unborn child has a fundamental individual right to life which cannot be infringed."
"Faithful to the 'self-evident' truths enshrined in the Declaration of Independence, we assert the sanc y of human life and affirm that the unborn child has a fundamental individual right to life which cannot be infringed," said the draft platform language approved Tuesday, which was first reported by CNN. "We support a human life amendment to the Cons ution and endorse legislation to make clear that the Fourteenth Amendment's protections apply to unborn children."
The timing of the approval of the Republican anti-abortion plank was awkward for Mitt Romney, who has denounced Mr. Akin's comments about rape and abortion and who has said that he supports exceptions to allow abortions in cases of rape. And it comes as his selection of his running mate, Representative Paul D. Ryan of Wisconsin, was already drawing scrutiny for his support for a more absolute ban on abortions, even in cases of rape or incest.
But Mr. Romney would hardly be the first Republican nominee at odds with his party's more absolute opposition to abortion. Just four years ago, the Republican Party adopted a platform with a similar plank seeking an unconditional ban on abortion, even though its nominee, Senator John McCain of Arizona, had urged the party in the past to allow certain exceptions. George W. Bush also supported outlawing abortion except in cases of rape, incest, or when the life of the pregnant woman was in danger.
After this year's abortion plank language was approved with little debate, the chairman of the platform committee, Gov. Bob McDonnell of Virginia, praised the committee for "affirming our respect for human life" and for doing so expeditiously.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/article?a=962885&f=19
Akin is makin the Repugs achin, but Akin has plenty of support:
Ultraconservative Rep. Steve King has this to say:
King told an Iowa reporter he’s never heard of a child getting pregnant from statutory rape or incest.
“Well I just haven’t heard of that being a cir stance that’s been brought to me in any personal way,” King told KMEG-TV Monday, “and I’d be open to discussion about that subject matter.”
A Democratic source flagged King’s praise of Akin in the KMEG interview to TPM. But potentially more controversial for King is his suggestion that pregnancies from statutory rape or incest don’t exist or happen rarely. A 1996 review by the Guttmacher Ins ute found “at least half of all babies born to minor women are fathered by adult men.”
Science. It's a thing, Rep. King. And then there was Sharon Barnes, a member of Missouri's GOP Central Committee, who stood by her man Akin:
Ms. Barnes echoed Mr. Akin’s statement that very few rapes resulted in pregnancy, adding that “at that point, if God has chosen to bless this person with a life, you don’t kill it.”
“That’s more what I believe he was trying to state,” she said. “He just phrased it badly.”
http://www.alternet.org/hot-news-vie...tter696728&t=3
Last edited by boutons_deux; 08-21-2012 at 01:56 PM.
It's graet... let's out all the doofuses at once. (Or should that be doofi?)
The Republicans should just stop talking. This will already bite Ryan in the ass soon enough.
This asshole just keeps digging his own grave. Calling women liars about rapes.
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/20...ped/?mobile=wp
King's Denial of Child Rape Victims Just Latest of His Anti-Choice Diatribes
King says, instead of focusing on one phrase, and turning it into a national issue, voters should focus on the big picture.
"I think this election should be about, how did Todd Akin vote and what did he vote for and what did he stand for and in this case, I'm seeing the same thing, petty personal attacks subs uting for strong policy," he said.
King supports the "No Taxpayer Funding for Abortion Act." It would ban Federal funding of abortions except in cases of forcible rape. Right now, Medicaid also covers abortions for victims of statutory rape or incest - for example, a 12 year old who gets pregnant.
Congressman King says he's not aware of any young victims like that.
"Well I just haven't heard of that being a cir stance that's been brought to me in any personal way, and I'd be open to discussion about that subject matter," he said.
Amie Newman wrote about his interview with CNS in 2011:
Rep. King says he "often goes into a high school auditorium" or into kindergarten through 12th grade levels to talk to the students about abortion. He pointedly asks them, "Where do you stand on the abortion issue?" Bear in mind, he's not teaching them how to think critically or to ponder important questions but to answer then and there "where they stand" on the abortion issue. He doesn't provide any authentic context for the discussion or refer, presumably, to the where and with whom this is all taking place - namely, that abortion is a private, personal decision that a woman makes - on her own, with her family, or with a health care provider. The woman does not, in any way, seem to play a role in any of Rep. King's thinking. Does he expect they know what abortion is? Does he talk about unintended pregnancy? Or does he prefer that, in fact, they have as little information as possible about what abortion is and isn't? Rep. King doesn't seem to care much. His goal is to have the young students ask and answer only two questions of themselves right then and there - two questions of his own creation and then - Presto! You've got my answer your answer!, says King.
King has railed against birth control, saying that its existence has led to a "dying civilization, and arguing that "keeping babies from being born is not medicine." Now, he thinks there is no reason to allow exceptions for pregnant children and adolescents to terminate their pregnancies, because he's never seen such a thing happen.
Anti-choice means forcing 12-year-old rape victims to give birth. Its as simple as that.
http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/articl...=Google+Reader
smh. ing GOP.G.O.P. Approves Strict Anti-Abortion Language in Party Platform
Even as the Republican establishment continued to call for Representative Todd Akin of Missouri to drop out of his Senate race because of his comments on rape and abortion, Republicans approved platform language on Tuesday calling for a cons utional amendment outlawing abortion with no explicit exceptions for cases of rape or incest.
The anti-abortion plank, approved by the Republican platform committee Tuesday morning in Tampa, Fla., was similar to the planks Republicans have included in their recent party platforms, which also called for a cons utional ban on abortions. The full convention is set to vote on the party's platform on Monday.
While Republican officials stressed that the plank did not go into granular details, saying that they were better left to the states, the language of the plank seems to leave little room for exceptions to the abortion ban. It states that "the unborn child has a fundamental individual right to life which cannot be infringed."
"Faithful to the 'self-evident' truths enshrined in the Declaration of Independence, we assert the sanc y of human life and affirm that the unborn child has a fundamental individual right to life which cannot be infringed," said the draft platform language approved Tuesday, which was first reported by CNN. "We support a human life amendment to the Cons ution and endorse legislation to make clear that the Fourteenth Amendment's protections apply to unborn children."
The timing of the approval of the Republican anti-abortion plank was awkward for Mitt Romney, who has denounced Mr. Akin's comments about rape and abortion and who has said that he supports exceptions to allow abortions in cases of rape. And it comes as his selection of his running mate, Representative Paul D. Ryan of Wisconsin, was already drawing scrutiny for his support for a more absolute ban on abortions, even in cases of rape or incest.
But Mr. Romney would hardly be the first Republican nominee at odds with his party's more absolute opposition to abortion. Just four years ago, the Republican Party adopted a platform with a similar plank seeking an unconditional ban on abortion, even though its nominee, Senator John McCain of Arizona, had urged the party in the past to allow certain exceptions. George W. Bush also supported outlawing abortion except in cases of rape, incest, or when the life of the pregnant woman was in danger.
After this year's abortion plank language was approved with little debate, the chairman of the platform committee, Gov. Bob McDonnell of Virginia, praised the committee for "affirming our respect for human life" and for doing so expeditiously.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/article?a=962885&f=19
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