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I think there was a lot of incomplete, conflicting information floating around, and people with different levels of knowledge about the immediate aftermath being asked they may or may not know about, not dissimilar to the chaos around a lot of fast-moving events.
I do understand some legitimate frustration at that. That is why I don't entirely dismiss it at this point. One has to be very careful to walk the line between a righteous call for accountability, and a partisan witch hunt in an election year.
Does anybody really doubt that the GOP will forgo the former to get the latter at this point?
Anyone(s) in particular?
Not enough sleep. stress.
Although this particular subject (iraq post war) has always pissed me off beyond words.
Contrast. It's a good defense.
Do what I do. Sleep at work.
Sadly, nobody knows the difference.
I would punch my mother in the face if someone would teach me the art of sleeping with my eyes open. I feel like work would be so much more tolerable with two 15 minute cat naps at different points in the day.Do what I do. Sleep at work.
Sadly, nobody knows the difference.
Funny to me that after this many years of posting on this board that I can actually tell when something is wrong with another one of the posters......except for boutons, that dude has been depressed since I started on this site.
You have a bad habit of chiming in with this time-consuming stuff right when I have little to give.
Quite a few people. I think we need a genuine investigation into it, because the more one learns, the worse it looks. Kinda like the event that inspired the thread.
Not that such an investigation wouldn't turn into a witch hunt either. (sighs)
Did they translate the do ents yet?
lol...sorry.
Mistakes have been made in wars as long as wars have been fought. If you think there weren't cluster s and gross negligence in WWI and WWII you are just plain wrong. You can't prosecute every previous administrations for mistakes they made. And I haven't heard anyone demanding Obama be put on trial for the embassy bombings. your straw man is on fire.
LOL, we know what the Blue team repeatbots will be saying tomorrow...
Obama deputy campaign manager Stephanie Cutter said Thursday that the “entire reason” the terrorist attack at the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi that killed four Americans has “become the political topic it is” is because Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan talk about the attack.
STEPHANIE CUTTER: In terms of the politicization of this — you know, we are here at a debate, and I hope we get to talk about the debate — but the entire reason this has become the political topic it is, is because of Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan. It’s a big part of their stump speech. And it’s reckless and irresponsible what they’re doing.
BROOKE BALDWIN: But, Stephanie, this is national security. As we witnessed this revolution last year, we covered it–
CUTTER: It is absolutely national security–
BALDWIN: –it is absolutely pertinent. People in the American public absolutely have a right to get answers.
The state department knew, without a doubt, that the two SEALs were not part of the security detail at the embassy, and that in fact they were there to find missing anti-aircraft munitions. The president stated they were part of the security detail knowing full well they were not. That statement cast a hue of responsibility on those SEALs and took heat off the WH for not having adequate security at the embassy.
Furthermore, zero response to date.
I do think they should have held some investigations when Obama won the Presidency, things like how so much money wasn't accountable, how intel was so wrong and whether it was fixed, etc etc. Of course, those might have been fied, but we'll never know... STATE SECRETS!
I'm all for a witch hunt. It might prevent the next people from being so stupid. Of course, we can have a witch hunt to determine if Clinton lied about a BJ, but not a witch hunt to determine if, say, guys are giving guns to Mexican drug cartels or millions of dollars go missing in a warzone.
neversaid they were always wrong.. prove I said it...oh wait your making up again... great example of truth telling lol..... but but but you're what's wrong.. whiner!
I guess making up is going to prove your point.. lol just admit your making it up... admit you made it up and move on.. you proved my point that you lie on a regualr basis
I could be wrong... really?
hey dumbass the intial intel assesment was that it was a spontaneous attack... you are a real bright guy.. but,but,but you're what's wrong with intelligence gathering.....idiot
they also pre empted every statement that is was based on the info up until then... godam I'm a partisan hack for not claiming they lied!
one more thing you piece of crap I am not an obama cheerleader..go find some posts to prove that I am his biggest fan... or admit you're making up.. I'll wait ...
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LOL, my favorite part of this post is that you don't refute the point I made when saying you think everything democrats do is ok in your book. You just attacked that you haven't said everything republicans do is wrong.
I'm not really sure what you think I made up, nor do I recall you making a point that I lie on a regular basis. But at least you got really mad. LOL
I'll wait for your obligatory, "I'm not mad just...." reply.
LOL, temper tantrum.
um, do you know what a strawman is?
Can you please explain how anything I have said here cons utes such?
(not sure you care, but you seem to be using the term incorrectly)
There is a vast difference to reacting to some event, and deciding to invade a country. I would argue that one owes more than a little bit of diligence in planning such an event.
If you know you are going to undertake a large, complex, dangerous operation, such as invading a country, do you or do you not, undergo more than a little bit of planning for what comes afterwards?
Deciding or not to add a few guards is a very limited up.
Deciding not to plan for how to run a country you invade, or give your troops the right tactics and strategy aims for accomplishing your (non)plan, is a whole other order of magnitude up.
Re: Fhe counter insurgency manual
http://usacac.army.mil/cac2/coin/repository/FM_3-24.pdf
If you undertook an extensive review of the failures of counterinsurgency doctrine in Vietnam, and then move 100,000+ troops into an OBVIOUS counter insurgency situation, why wait 3 years to put the doctrine you have worked up into place?
"I haven't heard anyone demanding Obama be put on trial for the embassy bombings"
Fox Lies Network, Repugs and their base think Barry should forfeit office for Libya embassy disaster alone.
bah..
This deserves its own thread.
Bush should be in jail, IMO, along with no few of his underlings.
If you or I wander into a crowded place, wave around a loaded gun like a toy then accidentally kill someone with a unplanned discharge of that weapon, we go to jail.
These asshats did that on a country-level scale, and got away with it, because one political party didn't want one (ok, lots) of their own held accountable.
RandomGuy beings the sad, downward slide of becoming boutons
I read that there more security at French Embassy in Paris than the embassy in Egypt. This does not seem like it was smart to me. What are the French up to we need this security ? I think they are hiding something from me. I am starting to question French people now.
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