A 4 team playoff system that could possibly result in 3 teams from one conference in it would be just as much of a failure as the BCS has been.
Duh, no .... the point in regards to TV would be to increase ratings revenue by adding a prominent program...
Last I checked, they were around 84th in athletic budget.... Utah and Mississippi State's budgets (two AQ programs) aren't much bigger....2) Boise State is somewhere around #95 in athletic department budget. Nobody outside the top 75 will get even a sniff.
Actually, both schools have an out in their contracts allowing them to leave for free if the Big Least is too unstable or fails to add compe ive programs.....
That's what's going to happen when conferences like the big12 are scared of playing a championship game and EARNING there way into the top 4. Make the computers put you in there by adding the championship game and playing non-conference opponents worth a damn. It's not very difficult to figure out.
The SEC plays the best year in and year out and ends up being ranked high.
LOL good luck getting that to work. The Big East just added Tulane after all. If that is a compe ive program you're ed.
If the system could possibly result in that, it's not good enough. Sorry.
Honestly no system outside of a full playoff will ever be good enough.
Middle Tennessee State from the Sunbelt accepts bid to CUSA. Replacement for East Carolina in eastern division of CUSA.
Yep. The ACC is definitely one domino away from a total collapse. That first domino is going to be an SEC or Big10 defection though. FSU and Clemson want to give the ACC every possible chance to succeed before they bail out. Despite the ACC's TV revenue lagging behind the other big boy conferences at the moment, the ACC still has a chance to put together a conference network. A new ACC network isn't going to get the ACC schools making more money than the Big10, SEC or the Pac will be getting with their networks, but it could get them more money than the Big12 which will never have a conference network.
Pisses me off how football runs everything. Ruining good basketball conferences to make mediocre football conferences.
No system is ever going to be good enough.
Even if we were at an 8 team playoff right now there would be 4 SEC teams in it and A&M would currently be left out at #9. It's always going to be ed.
College football is really entertaining, but it is stupid. The wide hash marks are stupid, the BCS is stupid, the OT is stupid, the smaller football is stupid, so on and so forth.
I'll take it over watching that ty ass NFL product any day of the week.
I've always enjoyed college football, but I would take NFL any day over it.
I really don't want to see a 8-16 team playoffs unless home field advantages were involved. Otherwise it would damage the regular season. Even the 4 team playoff will hurt the regular season a bit unless the first two seeds were given home games in the first round.
A 16-team playoff with the higher seeds hosting at least the first two rounds would be perfect. Give auto-bids to every conference champion and have five at-large selections. That's basically what the FCS does and it works fine for them.
makes too much sense
I disagree with your assessment. Florida State is the party driving all the instability in the ACC right now. The B1G pushed over the first domino, but FSU is the next one in line. They, and by they I mean Jimbo Fisher, believe their conference affiliation is holding their football program back from competing for national championships. Clemson will go where Florida State goes.
FSU would join the SEC tomorrow if it could, but there's no way that happens. UF, UGA, and USC want no part of FSU or Clemson. Adding those teams adds zero value to the SEC Network, because they overlap with existing SEC markets. The B1G is not interested in FSU or Clemson because they regard AAU membership as part of their DNA. That leaves the Big 12. If the ACC falls apart, the Big 12 makes the next move and takes FSU and Clemson. Texas will try to stop it, and the other nine schools will tell them to go themselves.
B1G wants Notre Dame. In fact, that's why they started in with Maryland when they became aware of their financial problems. If ND wants to snub the B1G to affiliate with the ACC, then Jim Delany is more than happy to rip apart the ACC. B1G is already talking to Virginia. If they can't convince ND to back out of their ACC deal and join the B1G, then they'll take Georgia Tech.
The SEC would look towards Virginia Tech and NCSU because it expands their reach into two new states.
UNC would be a huge plum for any conference that could get them, but UNC is committed to the ACC because they have the same power there that Texas has enjoyed over the Big 12. And much as they would love to go big-time in football, they aren't willing to give up that power or their basketball program to get it. Nor are they willing to separate from Duke. They're more likely to preside over the formation of a basketball superconference from the rumps of the ACC and heritage-Big East than they are to peel away to some other conference. For the time being whatever is left of the ACC still would enjoy a BCS automatic bid.
Right now FSU is waiting to see what happens with the Maryland buyout. The ACC filed a suit trying to make sure UMd pays the $52 million in full. If that gets reduced significantly in court, FSU bolts to the Big 12 ASAP and takes Clemson with them. DeLoss Dodds might not like it, but the rest of the conference will tell him to blow it out his ass. He's lost a fair amount of power now that it's clear how much damage he's done to the Big 12 in driving off 1/3 of the old members, and will be retiring soon.
One other caveat that might forestall this is that Jimbo Fisher may just take one of the open SEC coaching jobs. That would slow the momentum to destroy the ACC for the time being.
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That is Delany's end game. To have ND in the B1G. But that only happens if the ACC falls apart, which likely happens if FSU and Clemson bolt. Time will tell I guess.
The question I would have regarding Delany's thinking is, why would you want to add a conference member by hostile takeover? How does it help the conference if its most valuable member is only there because it was forced to be there by the Machiavellian machinations of the conference commissioner? Wouldn't one of the first orders of business for ND be to ruin Jim Delany's life, and since they're ND, will they not in fact have the power to do so?
FSU is definitely making noise, but they're not going to be the ones to pull the plug on the ACC. If the conference is going to implode they'll go to the Big12 and make the best of it, but they're not going to make a move until someone out of the Virginia/NC quartet does. They want the ACC to change more than they want to leave the ACC all together. If that wasn't the case, they'd be in the Big12 already. Joining the Big12 may be their best option if the ACC is going to blow up, but joining the Big12 still has some baggage. Lack of a conference network and getting stuck in a Big12 eastern division that doesn't include any of the Texas or Oklahoma schools being the two biggies.
If FSU can get a commitment from the VA/NC group to stick around and a committment from everyone to give more of a about football and to get a conference network off the ground I think FSU would be content to stay in the ACC for the forseeable future.
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Adding what you're calling a 'prominent' program doesn't move the needle on revenue. Additional eyeballs is not where the money comes from. The money comes from getting the conference network on basic cable in sizable media markets and collecting the subscriber fees. And even if additional eyeballs did deliver revenue, there is no evidence that more people in, say, Los Angeles are going to tune in watch Boise State-Washington State than Oregon State-Washington State.
Total athletic spending, 2010:
Boise State: $25,379,019
Utah: $36,944,373
Mississippi State: $43,587,148
Your wishcasting on this forum is not going to get Boise State into a major conference.
If the ACC collapses, FSU will say that Maryland pulled the plug.
If/when FSU bolts, they will say that becoming aware of UVa's negotiations with the B1G forced their hand.
If/when FSU bolts, they will say they gave the ACC every opportunity to change and become more compe ive, even turning down previous offers to leave.
The lack of the network is the bigger problem. The only obstacle I could see to an agreement to ensure FSU plays a game in the state of Texas every year is that DeLoss Dodds is a selfish recalcitrant asshole, but he's retiring soon.
Getting the commitment from the NC schools to stay in the ACC is not a problem. Getting the UNC schools to take the concerns of schools like FSU seriously and not run the ACC like their own personal little fiefdom is the problem. Adding UVa in that mix provides FSU an obvious out, since discussions with the B1G are already happening.
Sure, they'll say all those things if they bolt. What I'm saying though is that they're not going to bolt unless someone from the NC/VA bunch does so first.
The network is definitely the biggie.The lack of the network is the bigger problem. The only obstacle I could see to an agreement to ensure FSU plays a game in the state of Texas every year is that DeLoss Dodds is a selfish recalcitrant asshole, but he's retiring soon.
Perhaps. But Louisville getting the nod over Uconn certainly suggests to me that the ACC is at least listening to FSU's issues.Getting the commitment from the NC schools to stay in the ACC is not a problem. Getting the UNC schools to take the concerns of schools like FSU seriously and not run the ACC like their own personal little fiefdom is the problem. Adding UVa in that mix provides FSU an obvious out, since discussions with the B1G are already happening.
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