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Also, why does it need to be legal for a teacher to carry concealed? If it's concealed, no one knows, and if you're going to risk your life to keep from getting a fine, you aren't that worried about it in the first place.
If there was an armed officer at that school in Conn, that shooter would not have stepped foot inside that school. Deterrence is the key. Once the shots start flying all bets are off, and if I was that worried about my child that I wanted his teacher to carry a gun, I would home school. Let's be real, is your child's public education worth more than his life? No.
It's already deprived. It's illegal to carry a gun into a school. Children cannot protect themselves, they cannot carry a gun, so in effect you're relying on a teacher to save your kid's life as if the teacher is a cop in disguise. He's not. The cop at the end of the hall would deter the situation. How many shootings have occurred at airports? You cannot carry concealed there either. Cops carry though. You wouldn't get very far if you tried that in an airport or a police station.arming the teachers might be stupid but no one said we need to make it a mandatory. its all your freedom to go out w/o carrying a gun with yourself, but you cannot deprive other people of their rights to decide whether the guns need to be carried or not
Again, concealed carry is for personal protection, not for policing a school. Odd that, even in your home, your guns must be locked away with trigger guards so children cannot access them but you want them ready to fire on teachers in elementary schools. Don't get lost in the debate over guns and lose focus.
Also, why does it need to be legal for a teacher to carry concealed? If it's concealed, no one knows, and if you're going to risk your life to keep from getting a fine, you aren't that worried about it in the first place.
No, I don't. However, I don;'t have a job where in a few places, it is optional.
The point I am making is it is not normal for removing your weapon when you are carrying it outside of your home, and placing it in any area that someone else can access. That would be as irresponsible as a chemistry teacher letting kids play with a larger variety of chemicals unsupervised.
Teachers can get CHLs. They can carry where you and I can carry. We also cannot carry into our work places. Are you less secure because of it? Do you feel like quitting your job?
Should theater workers be allowed to carry in the theater? There was a shooting there as well. When there's a shooting at a work place, should all places of employment allow concealed carry? Should the right to refuse guns in your establishment be removed?
Carrying on your person 15 hours a day isn't normal for CHL. You cannot bring "normal" into a debate about changing the norm.
Workplace rules for an employee carrying are dependent on the employer. The employer has the legal right to say "not at my facility." The schools can choose to allow teachers to carry who want to.
No, the schools work for the state.
What? Your jobsite doesn't allow it? Are they hoping you'll all get massacred or something? Don't they pay attention to the news?
I lol'ed IRL
We aren't children. Don't you think that there should be better protection at our schools, in a manner that costs the least?
So you're saying you could defend yourselves adequately from an armed gunman, without having to resort to concealed carry? How does your jobsite do this?
No.
I'm saying we don't have children where they can be mass murdered. This push for more federal aid is just using our children as hostages to more government spending. Are you OK with that?
cop won't stand at the school's gate all day to deter any potential intruders, and even if there stands a guy in uniforme armed with a pistol, who's gonna give a when the burglar has 3 pistols and maybe even a rifle fully loaded, and is determined to lose his own life at the scene?
The guy won't have unfettered access to children. He will have to shoot his way in.
Based on your logic, there's no reason to have armed police officers guarding anything, including the President.
You're not addressing his point. Children won't be carrying. Why would a concealed carry be more effective on a teacher than on you or one of your coworkers? Why do you feel safe at work without a concealed carry weapon? Does your employer have security? Can someone just walk in to where you are?
I don't think an armed guard in each school is necessarily the answer. My point overall was, do you feel safe in your workplace? If so, what precautions did your workplace take that we might be able to do in a school?
shoot his way in? not likely imho, cops ain't body checkin everyone and most of them would just turn a blind eye especially when they know the suspect might carry a gun in his car. pussies in uniform ain't gonna risk their own lives to protect those of folks, they just do this job to collect paychecks imho
we need cops to ensure the security on special events or to protect those VIP like the president but your fooling yourself to think they can protect everyone of us as well as they protect the president tbh
I would take my chances with the protection of a cop over the hope that criminals cannot get guns because it's against the law. Those are your options.
Especially with today's mass killing of the week, I think we might try going with the option of revisiting mental health treatment practices in this country.
you put your life at risk if the criminals have guns while you don't, instead you count on the pussies in uniforms who only do their jobs as cops to collect paychecks. if i were such a big pussy that doesn't even know how to fire a ing gun i'd rather hope batman would arrive at the scene to save my ass when im confronted by a band of thugs tbh
Teachers aren't going to be forced to carry guns. You only have a few rational choices, and armed teachers aren't one of them. Mental health issues do need to be revisited, but there's no reason to include options that aren't feasible.
Like always though, your responses indicate you are completely disconnected from the topic and just going for shock value of some off the wall statement. Stick to your original screen name, at lease some of your takes are decent there.
Sure, you can go that route, but that does not secure schools just as learning why criminals commit crimes doesn't solve or prevent crimes.
"mental health"
I read that only very tiny percentage of mentally ill people are homicidal, or commit murder.
NR marketing A is trying to scapegoat mentally ill people. NRA is the sicko organization.
Eh, even an armed officer isn't a guarantee. One also has to wonder where the police presence requirement people might want would end now with the firefighter and church shootings today.
Guarantee? There's never a guarantee. You can even be killed while under federal protection. Presidents have been shot and and killed while under extreme SS watch.
There are shootings every single day. There have been for centuries. The police protection is for schools.
This is part of what people get when they build the "end of the world" hype. It will settle down after the 1st. I saw a guy riding a motorized wheel chair today who had an "The End is Here".
What are you liberals going to do when hits the fan? Better hope your neighbor is a gun nut.
I've already invited mingus to the movies.
The date for the end of the world already passed. The last two shootings seemed to have come from mentally ill individuals who felt their own worlds were coming to an end. There's no real calendar for that.
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