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cuz you're a ....
that's why..
Damn. I don't even remember starting this thread.
cuz you're a ....
that's why..
I've started tons of Parker threads. You expect me to remeber one from last summer? Damn Sense. It's obvious that I got DEEPLY under your skin at some point. I've noticed the animosity before, but figured you'd get over it. Do yourself a favor and let it go big fella.
If That's not possible, you should at least try to hide it by skipping the childish insults.
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Waiting for Brewski's explanation on how horrible Parker looks.
like Barkley would say about manu, i'm saying the same about tony
thats a bad boy ernie thats a bad boy
I've already given Parker his props for playing well early in the season. Despite clowns like you and Sense who insist that I bring Parker up only when he has a bad game, the truth remains that I call em like I see em. I know homers like you love to sugarcoat everything, but up until this year, he was inconsistent at best. Maybe this year will change that. I'll wait until after his career is over before I put him in the Hall of Fame though.
because it seems like Manu will not make it.
Kobe Bryant
Steve Nash
Ray Allen
Manu Ginobili
Baron Davis
Those guys are better bets than Tony Parker.
And, guys like Mike Bibby, Jason Richardson, and Sam Cassell might warrant some consideration as well as Tony Parker. It would not be surprising to see Tony Parker make it. But, it's far from a guarantee.
Mike Bibby is having a horrible season. Kobe will probably get voted in.
Tony will be on the bubble like Manu last year, but I think he'll get in ahead of Manu if it's between the two of them.
I'll wait until after his career is over before I put him in the Hall of Fame though.
Maybe you should also wait undermining him and his potential until his career is over.
The Kings have not been that good this year and Bibby hasn't been great, but he hasn't been horrible.
He's still averaging 19 ppg and shooting 43% from 3-pt range, 88% from the free throw line. Many head coaches still regard him as one of the top point guards in the league.
Tony Parker's numbers might be better ... but not that better.
He's had to carry more of the scoring load with Peja out, but Peja's back now. And his APG is horrible (3.9).
Baron Davis is having a better year than Parker??
Slightly.
If Phoenix, having the best record, got 3 in last year.
The Spurs oughtta get Ginobili, Parker and Duncan in this year.
Its only fair.
Having to take more of the scoring load or not, Bibby is still shooting .456 from the field, which is more than solid. His assists are definitely down, but he could easily bump that up in the next two months. Plus he's commiting more than one fewer turnover than Tony Parker.
Like I said earlier, he's not having a horrible season. And, he's still highly regarded by many coaches. Parker is having a better year ... but not that much better. And, it comes down to a subjective vote by the coaches.
Nash and Bryant are the only one garanteed so far.
Allen is playing for a disapointing Seattle team, Davis is shooting really bad and Manu isn't at the same level of last year so far.
Tony is averaging 55FG%, that's crazy for a PG, he is becomming more and more clutch (one big improvement from last year when he was Mr. first quarter) and simply is the best player (with TD) of the best team in the west.
To my mind that is more than enough to make the ASG.
Tony will make it if he keeps playing like this.
The way i observe on other team boards & also independent ones, many of posters there already acknowledge his improvement as of late, and putting him into a probable allstar player cathegory, for instance you could check basketballboards.net nba forum, there's a thread about who's gonna play in the allstar game this season, and Tony's name is mentioned often
Baron Davis wont make it. POn first look 16 and 9 is good then if you look closer 33% from the field? That aint gonna cut it.
I agree. If Baron makes it on his 33% shooting, I'll choke the fans who voted him in or the coaches. Well, if he stops chucking threes and increases his % I won't. If stats were everything, Manu wouldn't have made it last year. Bibby didn't make it last year, if Sac is worse, how does he have a better chance of making it? Of course Seattle is also worse, so maybe it helps slightly. Bibby's numbers are less than Tony's. Bibby is averaging about 4 assists. If the Spurs are the 1 seed, he has a great chance of making it. Ray Allen is averaging 24 points and his numbers aren't too far off from Tony's. Does that mean he deserves to be an All-Star? No, because his team is crap and no one cares. Kobe doesn't even deserve a spot since his team is last. Sure he can get 40 with 40 shots, but that doesn't mean he deserves a spot over others. It's early, so I hope Sac and Seattle don't turn it around.
Psst .. the reason the Spurs "started losing" had more to do with Piston's home court, and all the swings in style of play and momentum that come from it, than Manu's injury.
The way you rag on Parker is almost as stupid as fools who used to rag on Duncan in his brief moments of failure. It is hoops, a fluid game of motion, momentum and ebb and flow. Get with the game. Don't hate the player for what you don't know, don't understand, or won't admit!
Tony's given skill, mostly speed, quickness and balls of steel have always allowed him to deliver more upside than what his youth and inexperience have cost the Spurs. Your first clue to that is that fact is that Pop has started him since he joined the Spurs as a 17 year kid. Your second clue is that Tony now has more rings, more points and more assists than any player of his age in the History of the NBA.
On top of holding ALL TIME NBA RECORDS, Tony is adding a midrange shot, learning to control the pace of the game and playing solid defense to the other great things he brings. Yet somehow, I don't see you backing off on the ignorance and hate.
Hate generates blindless, as focus narrows, often to the insignificant. Expand your view, and perhaps you will understand what has taken Tony well on his way to an all time NBA great. You know, things like positive All-Time NBA Records, championship rings, points, big shots etc... etc... etc...
Pop's praise of Tony's D was after the season was over, dip . Tony and the Spurs won. The Tony haters lost ... again. Walk away with what dignity you have left.
Tony Parker is currently one of only two players in the NBA (the other being Kevin Garnett) who is in the top 25 in Scoring, FG%, and Assists.
He is currently playing light years ahead of Bibby. Give credit where credit is due.
Now I'm not in any way predicting that Parker will continue this level of play throughout the season or even guaranteeing that he'll make the All Star team, because as u said, there are many other people who deserve it more...but Bibby is not one of them.
Parker will get in because of his scoring and his team's record. I'm not really happy that he is doing a lot of one on one where he keeps the ball and looks for his shot and doesn't pass it around, but I do want him to be a consistent scoring threat and get really good at nailing those mid range jumpers. I just wish he had better court vision, but hey you can't have everything. But really, I don't see anyone else in the west outplaying him or being more important to his team at this time. I'm not counting Nash, since the guy is basically a shoo in. That kid Paul might get some consideration as will Cassell I think. I'm pretty sure Tony is in unless he hits a wall, which I don't want, I just want him to make better decisions with the ball and really be dangerous, which he pretty much is right now anyway because of his speed and quickness.
Duncan WILL make the all-star.
Manu, not so as duncan getting in.
and parker, well because "quite frankly" he been playing like
one! He hasnt been up and down lately, hes been consistant.
I think Duncan will be joining Parker in th ASG this year if yall know what I mean.
And if you don't then I'll spell it out.
Parker will get more All-Star votes than Duncan if things stay like they are with Duncan not taking any shots in the 4th and parker taking over the game for us.
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