Manu's family's facilities were robbed?

[WalterBenitez]

A MESSAGE TO ALL ARGENTINIANS-

1. I APOLOGIZE FOR OFFENDING ... accepted

2. FROM THE BEGINNING, I DEFINITELY SHOULD'VE AVOIDED TRYING TO BE POLITICALLY CORRECT. You should keep being politically correct

3. I AM AN AMERICAN, ... I SPEND HALF THE YEAR IN BRAZIL I envy you... I miss Brazilian weather

[GrandeDavid]

man... and I had such high hopes for you! LOL you were doing fine up until that whole "pele is the greatest" thing. Correct if I'm wrong but didn't FIFA give Pele AND Maradona the le of greatest players in history? Either way it boils down to preference. Personally I think Maradona was better, but I'm biased! This is a friendly comment, not to be misconstruded as the beginning of yet another long ass discussion!

I was just having fun with the lady. Hey, I agree with you that Maradona is better than Pele. Why? Because he likes Manu, so in my book that makes him the best!

[MaNuMaNiAc]

I was just having fun with the lady. Hey, I agree with you that Maradona is better than Pele. Why? Because he likes Manu, so in my book that makes him the best!

You allright!

[GrandeDavid]

Notice how neither "Athenea" nor "Hendrix" have nothing else to say, nothing worth a damn bit of validity or substance to offer to this thread. I guess its dead now.

Kids, this was just training for the battle blogs. Don't take it personal. I'm sure you are all decent, upstanding individuals who seek nothing more than world peace and an immediate end to poverty and crime.

Athenea, Brazil loves you (yeah right)!

[austinfan]

Hey, how about a Pele v. Maradona Battle Blog? Or a Brazilian soccer v. Argentine soccer Blog? That should raise the blood pressure around here a little, huh?

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Hey, how about a Pele v. Maradona Battle Blog? Or a Brazilian soccer v. Argentine soccer Blog? That should raise the blood pressure around here a little, huh?

raise blood pressure?? it would blow the roof off of this place! not a good idea! You can't really prove either one, I'm talking about Pele vs Maradona. brazilian soccer vs argentinian, well its hard to argue against 5 world cup championships.

[GrandeDavid]

^I'd love to do that. I'll take Brazil for the fun of it. The problem is I'm not too knowledgeable about soccer. I do, however, know that Brazil has more World Cup les (5) than any other nation. The great news is it won't affect my blood pressure like it would if it were to involve, say USA basketball versus Argentina. It would be painful having to endure the smack. Damn.

[nkdlunch]

Hey, how about a Pele v. Maradona Battle Blog? Or a Brazilian soccer v. Argentine soccer Blog? That should raise the blood pressure around here a little, huh?

You don't wanna go there dude. Visit latin soccer forums and you will see it's sooo ugly. By the end people start insulting other countries racially,they make references to old wars between countries,etc. It's nasty. Of course this forum will never be like that.

[GrandeDavid]

You don't wanna go there dude. Visit latin soccer forums and you will see it's sooo ugly. By the end people start insulting other countries racially,they make references to old wars between countries,etc. It's nasty. Of course this forum will never be like that.

That's why I want to take Brazil in this case, because I'll be able to take the political and cultural cracks with a grain of salt.

[austinfan]

You don't wanna go there dude. Visit latin soccer forums and you will see it's sooo ugly. By the end people start insulting other countries racially,they make references to old wars between countries,etc. It's nasty. Of course this forum will never be like that.

OK, maybe it's not such a good idea after all. I just thought it might have been a way for people to release some steam, but maybe it would generate too much animosity. Maybe we need a topic that's a little more laid back, like Tex-Mex v. interior Mexican food (I love both).

[GrandeDavid]

I wouldnt want to leave my home either, but when your life is at risk everyday you have to do whats right for you and your family. The more famous he gets the worse its going to be.

Besides, have you all seen Manu's phat ass crib in San Antonio? I have, its a couple blocks from my parents' house. I'm sure space and luxury will not be an issue. He could probably fit a few king-sized bed in his wine cellar. I'm sure the fam will love his sand-beached swimming pool. Besides, Capt. Hernandez (main security guard at The Dominion) will make sure all gawkers stay at bay.

[hendrix]

Notice how neither "Athenea" nor "Hendrix" have nothing else to say, nothing worth a damn bit of validity or substance to offer to this thread. I guess its dead now.

Naaahh.... You take all what you said back. THAT ended it.
Apologies accepted.

[GrandeDavid]

Yeah, and we all know no one has ever exaggerated to make a point. Some of you need to calm the fvck down.

The point remains the same. Manu is probably one of the single richest non-drug dealer in that country, you know he's a marked man.

I don't mean it as a slight to any of you Argentines, but let's face it - it's not exactly the safest place in the world down there for anyone with money.

TO ALL ARGENTINIANS, AGAIN:

I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE READ ALL THE POSTS IN THIS THREAD BEFORE GOING ON MY RANT. SORRY FOR THROWING SALT INTO THE WOUND. I DIDN'T REALIZE THERE WAS SO MUCH SENSELESS CRAP BEING SHAT ABOUT YOUR COUNTRY.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Besides, have you all seen Manu's phat ass crib in San Antonio? I have, its a couple blocks from my parents' house. I'm sure space and luxury will not be an issue. He could probably fit a few king-sized bed in his wine cellar. I'm sure the fam will love his sand-beached swimming pool. Besides, Capt. Hernandez (main security guard at The Dominion) will make sure all gawkers stay at bay.

Yeah, and I'm sure Manu's wife would love having to spend every minute with her in laws! hahahahaha

[GrandeDavid]

hendrix, there ya go. Also I was silly for not reading every single post. I didn't realize there was so much stupid being talked about your country. Sorry for all the insults by other folks. BUT, I NEVER mentioned Argentina. That is for the record.

The thing that pissed me off was when this Athenea chick chimed in as if she spoke for Brazilian culture as a whole and acted as if she understood my role in Brazilian society and what they think of me. Get the out of here! What a letdown that bird is. I am loved in Brazil and its a place, as in America, where my opinion is valued. When I get pissed and complain about the reality of the crime situation, its because I have a reason and cause to. People respect that . People don't respect petty ass "nationalism".

Anyone want to do battle with me on this in a blog? Should be fun!

[ALVAREZ6]

You're wrong, and I don't know where your relatives live but I've got most of my relatives here and NOT ONE ever got mugged!? Now I wouldn't call Buenos Aires safe, but its definately not as bad as you make it out to be. Have you ever lived here? and if so, what part of Buenos AIres did you live in?

Yes, I have lived in Buenos Aires, all my relatives live there, in Belgrano, which isn't a bad part of town, and it still happens...maybe we are just unfortunate.

I know that it's only in major cities like Rio and Buenos Aires in South America where that stuff happens, but in general, it's pretty clean compared to the states. I'm going to visit Buenos Aires and Rio this summer...

The crime in US cities is pretty bad, as well as any big city, it's just what happens.

What I was saying earlier is the difference in the US and Argentina is the goverment/cops. US, there's cops everywhere in cities...in Buenos Aires, they don't seem to give a .

[GrandeDavid]

Nah, you're wrong there. The average US city is probably more dangerous than 90% of cities/towns in South America.

It's the very few large cities like Rio, Buenos Aires, etc that have the most crime. If you get out of those cities, it's less dangerous than average US city. But it's true crime is on the rise everywhere, what's new?

nkd, I respect your takes and look for forward to your insights, but now I disagree with you.

I just do not buy this claim that "its less dangerous than average US city"...meaning when one leaves the major metropolises. Particularly in Brazil, many people today are migrating toward the interior of the country, populating mid-sized cities in the 250,000-1 million population range in search of economic opportunity. In the city in which I reside, Uberlândia, the population is 650,000. To me, in my personal experience, its a little paradise for an outdoorsman like myself, but ALL I HEAR from long term residents is how the good old days of walking the streets at night are long gone. Now there are car jackings, robberies and all kinds of . When my parents visit from America, although the LOVE Brazil, the hospitality, natural beauty and friendliness of the people, we, from the Brazilian side, are frequently plodding "safe" stuff to do, and when to go where.

Thank God I have never been victim of a crime in Brazil, other than having countless hot Brazilian girls in dental floss bikinis trying to seduce me, but I hear about crime alot. Like Uberlandia, with the demographic changes, these smaller towns are seeing sharp rises in crime. There is also a Mercosul socioeconomic development report, which I'll TRY to locate in English and/or online, which backs this claim. Plus I have eyes and ears and personal experience to back up my claim. Like you said, crime is on the rise everywhere...but I would not go nearly so far as to say that South American smaller cities are less dangerous than their U.S. counterparts.

Again (ATHENEA, HENDRIX etc.), its nothing at all against those South American cities or cultures, I'm just chiming in my personal experience and knowledge.

[ALVAREZ6]

MaNuMaNiA or Athenea, I haven't been to all of Buenos Aires' neighborhoods, so I don't know all of the differences...I just wanna know, which are the worst neighborhoods in Buenos Aires?

[GrandeDavid]

Alvarez, ALL of BA if fvcking dangero......just kidding!

[JsnSA]

People are stupid.

I dont care about which country is safer...most countries have crime problems..the US is no different.

I do agree with those who think Manu should try to talk his family into moving to the US though...not because the US is better or any crap like that.

Its just the fact that right now...for whatever reason...there is a semi-fad amongst the criminal element in some south American countries (and Argentina is one of them) to try and kidnap family members of wealthy people...and right now with Manu being in the public profile so much..it makes him a larger target than other wealthier people.

Its like his fame is advertising for him to become a target. Dumbass crook #1- "Whos family member should we kidnap?" Dumbass crook #2- "How about that Manu guy...I hear he has a lot of money".

The US has plenty of issues with crime...but right now the likely hood of his family being specificaly targeted in the US is much much lower than if they stayed in Argentina.

It doesnt mean they cant go back and visit..and maybe even return permanently at some point when Manu's fame has dropped a bit over there.

[ALVAREZ6]

JsnSA, the Ginobilis don't want to move. Manu has hired security guards to protect them, but they aren't going anywhere. They've been there their whole life, and they don't wanna leave...even if it is better for their safety.
Manu probably has tried to convince them to come to San Antonio, but nothing's worked. It would be terrible if something happens to one of his family members...
If I were him, I'd hire a bunch of security with all kinds of weapons to surround their house 24/7, accompanied by some vicious rottweilers and dovermans, and maybe pitbulls.

[nkdlunch]

nkd, I respect your takes and look for forward to your insights, but now I disagree with you.

I just do not buy this claim that "its less dangerous than average US city"...meaning when one leaves the major metropolises. Particularly in Brazil, many people today are migrating toward the interior of the country, populating mid-sized cities in the 250,000-1 million population range in search of economic opportunity. In the city in which I reside, Uberlândia, the population is 650,000. To me, in my personal experience, its a little paradise for an outdoorsman like myself, but ALL I HEAR from long term residents is how the good old days of walking the streets at night are long gone. Now there are car jackings, robberies and all kinds of . When my parents visit from America, although the LOVE Brazil, the hospitality, natural beauty and friendliness of the people, we, from the Brazilian side, are frequently plodding "safe" stuff to do, and when to go where.

Thank God I have never been victim of a crime in Brazil, other than having countless hot Brazilian girls in dental floss bikinis trying to seduce me, but I hear about crime alot. Like Uberlandia, with the demographic changes, these smaller towns are seeing sharp rises in crime. There is also a Mercosul socioeconomic development report, which I'll TRY to locate in English and/or online, which backs this claim. Plus I have eyes and ears and personal experience to back up my claim. Like you said, crime is on the rise everywhere...but I would not go nearly so far as to say that South American smaller cities are less dangerous than their U.S. counterparts.

Again (ATHENEA, HENDRIX etc.), its nothing at all against those South American cities or cultures, I'm just chiming in my personal experience and knowledge.

Once again, you are talking about Brazil. Brazil is a different world from the rest of South American countries. It's a huge country and they have different problems, some of them like poverty/corruption are similar but not the same.

I'm from Bolivia, your neighbor, but I lived in Chile, Ecuador, Paraguay, Argentina and now the US. And small cities/towns in those countries from my experience are as safe as an average city here in US.

But I know it's getting worse so who knows maybe in the future it will be as bad as you claim.

[GrandeDavid]

^nkd, and I clarified that I speak from the Brazilian perspective. That is interesting that you are from Bolivia and that you have lived in those other nations. I, particularly, am looking forward to getting acquainted with Santiago, Chile. My partners and I are exploring setting up a sales office for our franchising business in Santiago. Looking forward to the al ude, the running, the culture, the wine and, most importantly, the business-friendly climate.

[GrandeDavid]

Fvck the Americas altogether! I'm moving to Asia.

[JsnSA]

JsnSA, the Ginobilis don't want to move.

I understand that. I wouldnt necessarily WANT to move either. Its thier home.


But you have to admit that it would be the smarter move.

I would be freaking if I knew people were planning on kidnapping my family.

That would scare me a lot more than if the plot was just to kidnap me.


But your right...If you cant get them to come...I would definatly have armed guards watching them all the time...but I guess that would suck for them too.