Lakers: As long as the Thunder are an NBA team, I won't be watching anymore of Stern's

[OKC]

The craziest part is when OKC fans complain ABOUT the officiating. Odds are whatever championship they win will more or less be an asterisk. But according to them, everyone's opinion is irrelevant........unless that opinion was made of meth because then they'd fight each other to get a good shot at it. Also, methheads have to be one of the lowest kind of human beings, just in' disgusting

lol a little hateful, are we? Damn.

[OKC]

Spursfan claiming the refs are everyone else's friend but theirs when the Spurs have fewer fouls called against them than any team in the NBA.

Everyone do me a favor - go rewatch the Laker game last night, watch how spectacular Westbrook is in initiating offense and getting into the lane, and tell me how the opposition has any choice but to foul him and KD a lot. Quit your moaning, OKC's big two are THAT good. Anyone who can watch the game last night and not marvel out how spectacular Westbrook is is just simply blind.

[Leetonidas]

getting trolled by ings

[Leetonidas]

on a related note, does anyone get on in the NBA forum these days more than thunderfan? They seem to be the most delusional s, truly believing that Ibaka was just trying to get that meanie ginger from holding his jersey and being blind or just in denial at the fact that they have the most coddled team in the NBA and everyone outside of OKC can see the ref sucking going on there. it's not just on ST either.

lol denial

[OKC]

on a related note, does anyone get on in the NBA forum these days more than thunderfan? They seem to be the most delusional s, truly believing that Ibaka was just trying to get that meanie ginger from holding his jersey and being blind or just in denial at the fact that they have the most coddled team in the NBA and everyone outside of OKC can see the ref sucking going on there. it's not just on ST either.

lol denial

Really? Most fans in OKC believe Ibaka should've been suspended. Not sure which ones you are speaking to.
Speaking of facts - Westbrook is so spectacular off the dribble you'll foul his ass or you're in trouble. KD is 7'0 with arms down to his ankles and can get to the rim in 2 steps from the 3 point line. You'll foul him or just get abused the whole game. Bottom line - they get some generous calls, but fact is they're that ing good

[Leetonidas]

He's a ing jumpshooter, gtfo of here trying to claim he's like LeBron driving to the rim all the time. and lol you were the re claiming the other day that there was "evidence that Ibaka wasn't aiming for Blake's groin" when he clearly was. Lots of teams have explosive players that drive a lot and don't nearly get the calls your got franchise gets. Most unbiased observes agree the Spurs were robbed in Game 6 to promote the new Bird-Magic rivalry with LeBron-KD. quit being such a meth addicted homer, take those crystal glasses off

also rofl at the chimpbrook comment. He's so spectacular, which is why he routinely shoots 5-20, refusing to pass the ball to Durant in the guts of the game. then again it's probably because KD is such an acne faced pussy that he doesn't have the balls to step up to his turtle headed teammate

[OKC]

He's a ing jumpshooter, gtfo of here trying to claim he's like LeBron driving to the rim all the time. and lol you were the re claiming the other day that there was "evidence that Ibaka wasn't aiming for Blake's groin" when he clearly was. Lots of teams have explosive players that drive a lot and don't nearly get the calls your got franchise gets. Most unbiased observes agree the Spurs were robbed in Game 6 to promote the new Bird-Magic rivalry with LeBron-KD. quit being such a meth addicted homer, take those crystal glasses off

also rofl at the chimpbrook comment. He's so spectacular, which is why he routinely shoots 5-20, refusing to bass the ball to Durant in the guts of the game. then again it's probably because KD is such an acne faced pussy that he doesn't have the balls to step up to his turtle headed teammate

I said there was evidence to suggest that there was a possibility that he was not intending to go for his nads. What his intentions were only he knows. regardless- you can't make that move and he should've been suspended a game.

Westbrook is spectacular. I'm not gonna deny he does some bonehead things at times, but to deny his basketball skills are spectacular is a little off on your part, to say the least. He absolutely abused LA last night.

[Leetonidas]

Not gonna disagree with that, but the issue is the FT fest that ensues most Thunder games. Go look around on a forum like RealGM where most of the fans aren't Spurs fans and you'll see the same opinions. Like I said, everyone but the fans in OKC can see the preferential treatment they receive from the refs. There's a reason most people say it will be hard to beat OKC in the playoffs playing 5 on 8

[OKC]

What's your honest assessment of KD as a basketball player? We're talking basketball skills and nothing else. WHat's your opinion?

[OKC]

Man, people have been moaning about officiating in sports since there's been officiating in sports. If people weren't ing about the refs, something in the world wouldn't be right. KD and Russ account for what, 16 of OKC's 27 a game? That's where people's beef is I guess. They get some calls. But you just have to be honest - those 2 guys are both freaks of nature. Neither one of them are really assist guys. You know Russ isn't. Russ is going hard at the rim all the time. YOu think guys are just gonna stand by and watch him dunk? Same with KD? Dude can get from the 3 point line to the rim in 2 steps. Kind of hard NOT to foul them honestly. You're talking about 2 guys who really have no equal in basketball...maybe a Derrick Rose or a Lebron..that's about it. Of course they're going to the line a lot.

[21_Dickings]

Man, people have been moaning about officiating in sports since there's been officiating in sports. If people weren't ing about the refs, something in the world wouldn't be right. KD and Russ account for what, 16 of OKC's 27 a game? That's where people's beef is I guess. They get some calls. But you just have to be honest - those 2 guys are both freaks of nature. Neither one of them are really assist guys. You know Russ isn't. Russ is going hard at the rim all the time. YOu think guys are just gonna stand by and watch him dunk? Same with KD? Dude can get from the 3 point line to the rim in 2 steps. Kind of hard NOT to foul them honestly. You're talking about 2 guys who really have no equal in basketball...maybe a Derrick Rose or a Lebron..that's about it. Of course they're going to the line a lot.

Such bull . Acne Face doesn't drive. Most of his FTs come as a result of him swinging his arms out into the defender's before taking a jumper.

Turtle head just flails around in lane and gets bull calls.

[21_Dickings]

What's your honest assessment of KD as a basketball player? We're talking basketball skills and nothing else. WHat's your opinion?

Kobe Bryant.





































When he was in high-school.

[Leetonidas]

What's your honest assessment of KD as a basketball player? We're talking basketball skills and nothing else. WHat's your opinion?

KD is an elite talent obviously. He is long, quick, can shoot lights out, but imo not much else. What separates him from LeBron is that he doesn't have much of a defensive impact or the vision/playmaking. He also is not assertive enough as a leader and he is kind of a whiny too imo. I won't deny he is the 2nd best player in the NBA but like I said, dude is basically a jumpshooter (yes he drives to the rim on occasion, I know) but gets tons of FT attempts, even more than a guy like LeBron who is always in the paint.

I mean look at this



Stuff like this happens for Durant every single game, it's ridiculous, and this one was in the playoffs

[OKC]

KD is an elite talent obviously. He is long, quick, can shoot lights out, but imo not much else. What separates him from LeBron is that he doesn't have much of a defensive impact or the vision/playmaking. He also is not assertive enough as a leader and he is kind of a whiny too imo. I won't deny he is the 2nd best player in the NBA but like I said, dude is basically a jumpshooter (yes he drives to the rim on occasion, I know) but gets tons of FT attempts, even more than a guy like LeBron who is always in the paint.

I mean look at this



Stuff like this happens for Durant every single game, it's ridiculous, and this one was in the playoffs

Ok, now wait a minute. That call was so bad its just plain ridiculous. That doesn't happen every game! lol He gets some calls..like the one against Dwight last night that I think fouled him out. Borderline, probably coulda been a no call, but to say KD gets absolute absurd calls nightly like the one above is just not true. I agree Lebron is still way above KD overall - like you said, just better court vision, much better passer, etc. KD and Russ get foued a lot, they really do. I don't deny they get some star calls though.

[OKC]

Such bull . Acne Face doesn't drive. Most of his FTs come as a result of him swinging his arms out into the defender's before taking a jumper.

Turtle head just flails around in lane and gets bull calls.

Really?
http://hoopdata.com/player.aspx?name=Kevin Durant

Now go down to shot locations and tell me from what location KD attempts shots from the most. Hint: look under "At Rim"

[21_Dickings]

Really?
http://hoopdata.com/player.aspx?name=Kevin Durant

Now go down to shot locations and tell me from what location KD attempts shots from the most. Hint: look under "At Rim"

Nope. See, I watch the games since I'm not busy cooking meth, and most of those "at rim" attempts come via a fast break. Even then, KD still shoots more jumpers. 5.7 attempts from 10-23 feet compared to 5.55 from at rim to 9 feet (assuming half of those attempts [1.7 total] from 3 to 9 feet are jumpers).

[21_Dickings]

Nope. See, I watch the games since I'm not busy cooking meth, and most of those "at rim" attempts come via a fast break. Even then, KD still shoots more jumpers. 5.7 attempts from 10-23 feet compared to 5.55 from at rim to 9 feet (assuming half of those attempts [1.7 total] from 3 to 9 feet are jumpers).

Oh , I forget to add 3 point attempts, bringing KD's jumpshot total up to 10.2 attempts.

So he's 2 to 1 more likely to shoot a jumper than drive. Tell me again KD isn't primarily a jumpshooter

[OKC]

Oh , I forget to add 3 point attempts, bringing KD's jumpshot total up to 10.2 attempts.

So he's 2 to 1 more likely to shoot a jumper than drive. Tell me again KD isn't primarily a jumpshooter

SHow me were I claimed he wasn't primarily a jumpshooter. I'm just refuting your claim that "acne face doesn't drive".

[Reeko_Htown]

[Clipper Nation]

KD is 7'0 with arms down to his ankles and can get to the rim in 2 steps from the 3 point line.

Bull .... even Monta ing Ellis, the ultimate jump shot chucker, gets to the rim more than Durant (5.1 FGA/game at the rim to Durant's 4.7) yet Durant is second in the league in FTA/game....

[21_Dickings]

SHow me were I claimed he wasn't primarily a jumpshooter. I'm just refuting your claim that "acne face doesn't drive".

I concede that he does. Maybe once or twice per game, but not enough to warrant all the free throws he gets.

He benefits from ticky-tack called on the perimeter, per Stern's decree in the hope of manufacturing Larry Bird to Lebron's Magic.

[OKC]

He gets some ticky tack fouls. Ive seen games where the refs were calling it too tight and KD can take advantage of those types of games better than anyone with some attributes. I don't like those games. They need to let them play a little.

[Sportcamper]

The Lakers have always had to go it alone! Just can't get the breaks that the small market teams get...

[Phillip]

the officiating was absolutely putrid last night, of course heavily in favor of OKC

what a shocker

[OKC]

the officiating was absolutely putrid last night, of course heavily in favor of OKC

what a shocker

OKC went to the line 24 times vs LA's 40. What game were you watching?