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    Make Neal a 3.5 mil per year offer. If he takes it great if not let him go.
    The Spurs only keep Neal if the cost is substantially less than that. If there's a team out there willing to give him that much money then the Spurs will let him go.

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    That's below mid level exception, and as a high quality backup combo guard neal should be in the 3 to 5 mill range. I know he had a down year this year but he also had lingering moderate injury issues and still was fairly effective.

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    That's below mid level exception, and as a high quality backup combo guard neal should be in the 3 to 5 mill range. I know he had a down year this year but he also had lingering moderate injury issues and still was fairly effective.
    I don't disagree. Neal may very well be able to command the money you suggest from one or more teams in the NBA. I just don't believe that he's worth that much to the Spurs. On the Spurs, he projects to be no better than the 3rd string SG and 3rd string PG. 3rd string players can't take up much more than a minimum salary slot on your roster.

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    Mel I think he's in truth second string sg and third string pg. Lets look at the number of games Manu misses.

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    Mel I think he's in truth second string sg and third string pg. Lets look at the number of games Manu misses.
    That may be true, but Manu will still get paid. IMO, no room on the payroll for Neal at the price you suggest.

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    To me, the situation is very clear and simple: Spurs will have to decide this summer between Neal and De Colo.

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    ^ I'd say De Colo is the obvious choice, but he may well ask for a trade/release. Joseph's hold on the backup spot should only get tighter, and it may not be enough to De Colo to get Ginobili's and Green's scraps. Add in Mills potentially opting in, and Nando may not like what he sees. There are definite scenarios in which none of Neal, Mills and De Colo come back. Those probably start with the Spurs drafting another guard and bringing over Hanga or Denmon.

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    I can't see De Colo asking for a trade or to be released. He got a decent amount of minutes for a rookie (more than Bonner, Blair, Mills, or Joseph) and must have known coming to the Spurs he was unlikely to be part of the rotation his first season. Plus he has Parker and Diaw around to help him be patient. I also think the Spurs are still high on him, certainly higher than they are on Hanga or Denmon. I think the Spurs will let Neal walk. De Colo does everything better than Neal except shoot, and De Colo is still a good, if streaky, shooter. Bertans can replace Neal's shooting anyway

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    I can't see De Colo asking for a trade or to be released. He got a decent amount of minutes for a rookie (more than Bonner, Blair, Mills, or Joseph) and must have known coming to the Spurs he was unlikely to be part of the rotation his first season. Plus he has Parker and Diaw around to help him be patient. I also think the Spurs are still high on him, certainly higher than they are on Hanga or Denmon. I think the Spurs will let Neal walk. De Colo does everything better than Neal except shoot, and De Colo is still a good, if streaky, shooter. Bertans can replace Neal's shooting anyway
    I agree, but reading some of De Colo's interviews, it seems like he's really not happy with his role in San Antonio. If Joseph wins the backup point spot for good and Mills stays, De Colo can find himself deactivated for most of the year. He's already in a suit now. He doesn't like going to the d-league, and I think that's one of the reasons Joseph (who actually asked to be sent there) has the inside track to the position now. It could be a Jack/Green type of thing, although I doubt it would come to that.

    I think Nando has a great role to play as the fifth guard, essentially replacing Neal's spot in the rotation but being a better facilitator. If Neal goes, Pop should be able to find room for De Colo to get about 12-18 minutes a night. But drafting a guard in the first round and not moving Mills would put the roster in another crunch. I don't expect him to ask to be traded at least until training camp ends and some semblance of a rotation is created. I just think it's a story worth following.

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    I agree, but reading some of De Colo's interviews, it seems like he's really not happy with his role in San Antonio. If Joseph wins the backup point spot for good and Mills stays, De Colo can find himself deactivated for most of the year. He's already in a suit now. He doesn't like going to the d-league, and I think that's one of the reasons Joseph (who actually asked to be sent there) has the inside track to the position now. It could be a Jack/Green type of thing, although I doubt it would come to that.

    I think Nando has a great role to play as the fifth guard, essentially replacing Neal's spot in the rotation but being a better facilitator. If Neal goes, Pop should be able to find room for De Colo to get about 12-18 minutes a night. But drafting a guard in the first round and not moving Mills would put the roster in another crunch. I don't expect him to ask to be traded at least until training camp ends and some semblance of a rotation is created. I just think it's a story worth following.

    Yeah, it'll be interesting to see how it works out. It just feels like De Colo is the kind of player Popovich has been looking for for a while now: a shooting guard who can run the offense, make shots, and not be a liability on defense. Hard to see Pop letting him go. I could even see De Colo getting a fair amount of Manu's regular season minutes next year for his development and to try to keep Manu healthy.

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    signd!

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    Congratulations on breaking the bank Mr. Neal, we'd love to keep you, but we can't afford you any more...

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    Congratulations on breaking the bank Mr. Neal, we'd love to keep you, but we can't afford you any more...
    The more money he earns, the better for the Spurs, because it becomes more likely that whichever teams that signs him will need/want to do a sign-and-trade to acquire him.

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    Bye Bye De Colo...

    Improve your defense over the offseason trainng schedule, Neal and you will remain a Spur for a few more years.

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    Hopefully he`ll go with coach Bud and Blair to Hawks

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    Gary Neal probably just JJ Barea'd himself out of any chance the Spurs keep him. Good for him. If we win the finals and gets paid $122130947379732897295729273 from the Lakers, I'll be delighted.

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    If Spurs wants to keep Neal, they would have no issue doing so.

    Spurs are just in a truly amazing situation financially wise this summer. If you take the less favorable scenario (Diaw and Mills opting in, Bonner being kept and pick #28 signing for 120% of the rookie scale), Spurs payroll will be $42.7M. The luxury tax threshold is projected to be at $71.6M. Spurs have $28.9M in salary below the tax to re-sign Ginobili, Neal, Splitter and to maybe add a player with the MLE. It should be way enough.

    And on top of that, Spurs are in a very strong position with these 3 free agents by having full bird right on all 3, with Neal and Splitter being restricted and with Ginobili wanting to stay in San Antonio.

    If Spurs' plan for this summer, is basically to stand pat, their off-season is gonna be a cakewalk. Ton of money available and the upper hand on every single player they might want to keep.

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    Neal just earned a big pay check with his performance tonight... It will be interesting to see if Spurs decide to keep him and how much money other teams will throw at him.

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    Neal can play.
    We need to separate the regular season and the post season. Post season teams are better, and thats the reason every player has dificulties.
    Even Lebron cant dominate the Spurs, does Miami say: Trade him!. No, they dont.
    Neal is a keeper, and he has shown it in the RS. I think a player like Bonner is the problem, he didnt do a lot during RS either. Neal had his games

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    I think the Spurs will only try to keep him if they've given up on the idea of Ginobili being the sixth man. They need some scoring off the bench, and while I'd rather get a big who can provide that, Neal is a fall-back option. Really, though, the Spurs can't afford to pay a lot for Green, Neal and Ginobili to all play the same position, so I think they should let him go and try to work out a sign-and-trade or just try to find a cheaper replacement in the draft or in free agency.

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    In some form or fashion, Neal is going to get overpaid this offseason. What's the realistic ceiling on that contract? 3 years, $15 million? 4 years, $18 million?

    Personally, I think it would be best for both parties for the Spurs and Neal to part ways. Don't get me wrong, I'm loving him after last night's game 3. However, he's a gunner who hasn't seen a shot he doesn't like. Ultimately, that doesn't fit into the Spurs scheme, nor can the Spurs offer him more than 20-25 minutes a night. I think he moves on, becomes a 2nd or 3rd option offensively on a decent team, and gets 30 mpg.

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    I don't know, he has been great for us but then again he doesn't play both ways as well as Green and Leonard, he does put the ball on the floor better tho and he has the best offensive game. With Manu declining, unless they trade to move up in the draft for someone like Karasev I think they will resign him.

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    Have a feeling he and Blair will end up with coach Bud in the ATL. I also think Ferry will through money at Splitter.

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    Have a feeling he and Blair will end up with coach Bud in the ATL. I also think Ferry will through money at Splitter.
    I doubt it. He's probably building from the ground up. That means draft picks, and using cap space to acquire young assets and draft picks, not FAs.

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    I doubt it. He's probably building from the ground up. That means draft picks, and using cap space to acquire young assets and draft picks, not FAs.
    Nah, I think if they can get a FA for value they'd do it in a heartbeat. What team wouldnt? And actually tiago's poor playoff series against the heat actually may embolden teams to try to outbid the spurs since the spurs may have second thoughts about giving him a large pay day.

    also this: http://fansided.com/2013/05/10/dalla...iago-splitter/

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